Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: What's it worth?

 

I'd say the old engine is worth scrap; maybe $100, give or take.  Scrappers pay by the pound.  If you go that way, remove the cam/valve cover, the bottom engine cover (or "oil pan"), and anything else that's pure aluminum, and have them weighed separately:  Aluminum is worth MUCH more than iron/steel/mixed metals.

(I'd wager Nate would have gotten more than $600 if he'd simply just scrapped his old GMC, heart-wrenching that may have been....)

Mark in Lakewood, CO
From: "Nate" <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:08:57 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: What's it worth?

 


About $600 .

Why not take it to one of those charity vehicles places ? . they'll take it and not comlain it's a beater .

However , be *VERY* careful , I got ripped off , they said one thing then only sent me a $600 tax receipt on a nice truck I'd just finished putting $3,700.00 worth of PARTS ALONE into ~ everything worked perfectly , current tags , so clean you could eat off it blah blah blah .

So _ASK_ what you'll get in tax value and DO NOT leave it behind unless they give you the tax receipt right then and there .

If you have much passing traffic , park it not too close to the road and ask $1,000 for it & take any green you see .

The problem with old vehicles is : they're never worth the $ you put in , all ypou can do is be diligent about up fixin' then then run them for years to get your $ worth back out .

You got skinned going in but it's quite possible you're close to the breakout point where it becomes a reliable daily driver .

Your old engine is worth maybe $150 , the trick is finding someone who'll want it .

-Nate
Trish wrote:
>
> I know things are only worth what someone is willing to pay.
>
> But in general what can I get out of the original motor from my '81 300D?
> Not sure if it threw a rod or not. Summer camp is almost over, Kevin can
> pop the top then and find out the condition.
>
> Also, how low should I go in selling my '81 300 with the turbo? Rust in
> floor board. Dent on drivers side. Only two windows work, if persuaded on
> one of them. A/C may or may not work, have new belt, but it's not on it.
> New speedometer cable, not installed. Rear Main seal leak which we aren't
> going to fix. I may or may not fix the turbo oil leak, depending on what I
> can get out of the car. It has new Walmart tires. New stereo (I think it's
> sony), all sorts of other new stuff, can't think of everything right now.
> Rear brakes need to be done soon. Low miles, approx 120,000 on motor, and
> 260,000 on chassis. Front seats need help. Carpet OK. Headliner OK.
> Sunroof works. Could use door & window gaskets. Has all of the original
> hub caps.
>
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Injector Leak

 

Check the little injector return hoses on top 1st, as they don't last
too long, and may look fine, yet are split on the bottom or something.

I don't keep as much supplies in my trunk as Brian, maybe I should, yet
I do have extra injector return hose in the trunk at all times. In a
pinch, you can try to cut the hose a little shorter and re-attach,
though buy new hose soon afterward.

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA
==

On 7/31/12 7:50 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Injector Leak
> Posted by: "Chip"czulli@gmail.com czulli
> Date: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:06 pm ((PDT))
>
> Can an injector leak in the middle? I know about the leak from the rubber tube that drains the diesel back into the fuel and those replacements. And I think I know about the compression washers that crush down to create a seal between the injector and the cylinder head.
> And I know about the potential leak from the fuel line to the injector. But, is there a third location and option for a leak in the injector body itself? If so, is there a fix, or is that a sure sign of replacement.
>
> If I replace, do I replace all?
>
> My rear most injector is leaking, the one closest to the firewall.
>
> Chip
> Houston
>

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[diesel_mercedes] 240D Low Fuel Mileage

 


As I was sitting in the comfy air conditioned 1982 240D awaiting SWMBO to finish shopping to - day , I decided to pop the bonnet and see how the intake screen looked with the engine idling away....the screen is crystal clear (wouldst _MY_ Mercedes look like that) but the secondary fuel filter was glistening with Diesel fuel , now I know where my fuel economy went ~ sadly , the fatory tool kit in this car is missing the 23 MM open end wrench necessary to snug up that filter bolt , I'll get the wrench out of my Coupe to - morrow morning and tweak it then .

Does anyone here use the Mercedes E-Catalog for parts ? I down loaded it and signed up but I can't figure out how to make it work and I'm keen to go looking for those myriad small things I'm sure I need....

I especially want to re load the original tool kit as those are very good quality tools but I can't find any diagrms or parts lists for the tools , Mercedes does sell them , I just need to figure out the correct part #'s I need .

I just ordered up the original screwdriver and it's under $20 (IIRC) and is terrific .

Part # upon request .

TIA ,

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: What's it worth?

 


About $600 .

Why not take it to one of those charity vehicles places ? . they'll take it and not comlain it's a beater .

However , be *VERY* careful , I got ripped off , they said one thing then only sent me a $600 tax receipt on a nice truck I'd just finished putting $3,700.00 worth of PARTS ALONE into ~ everything worked perfectly , current tags , so clean you could eat off it blah blah blah .

So _ASK_ what you'll get in tax value and DO NOT leave it behind unless they give you the tax receipt right then and there .

If you have much passing traffic , park it not too close to the road and ask $1,000 for it & take any green you see .

The problem with old vehicles is : they're never worth the $ you put in , all ypou can do is be diligent about up fixin' then then run them for years to get your $ worth back out .

You got skinned going in but it's quite possible you're close to the breakout point where it becomes a reliable daily driver .

Your old engine is worth maybe $150 , the trick is finding someone who'll want it .

-Nate
Trish wrote:
>
> I know things are only worth what someone is willing to pay.
>
> But in general what can I get out of the original motor from my '81 300D?
> Not sure if it threw a rod or not. Summer camp is almost over, Kevin can
> pop the top then and find out the condition.
>
> Also, how low should I go in selling my '81 300 with the turbo? Rust in
> floor board. Dent on drivers side. Only two windows work, if persuaded on
> one of them. A/C may or may not work, have new belt, but it's not on it.
> New speedometer cable, not installed. Rear Main seal leak which we aren't
> going to fix. I may or may not fix the turbo oil leak, depending on what I
> can get out of the car. It has new Walmart tires. New stereo (I think it's
> sony), all sorts of other new stuff, can't think of everything right now.
> Rear brakes need to be done soon. Low miles, approx 120,000 on motor, and
> 260,000 on chassis. Front seats need help. Carpet OK. Headliner OK.
> Sunroof works. Could use door & window gaskets. Has all of the original
> hub caps.
>
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Turbo gasket kit

 


NO ! .

That gasket kit is for the turbo proper , what you need is the oil return tube seals , I clicked on the left illustration and it's guide # 173 , they don't service that but save the illustration and show it to other partshause' & they'll get what you need .

You'll need to remove the lower front sump (oil pan) , I was able to re use my old gasket as Mercedes uses really good quality gaskets that reguire NO GLUE nor RTV .

I hope this helps .

BTW : if anyone in Cali. orders parts from this place , please let me piggyback two of the old style primer pumps onto your order ~ I need them badly .

This place has lots of printable exploded diagrams for your old Mercedes .

-Nate
Trish wrote:
>
> Got a call about an awesome job I interviewed for over a month ago.
>
> Now it's time to get serious about fixing the gushing oil leak from my
> turbo. No way can I drive the truck that far daily, would cost me half of
> my pay...I have to pay for parking at this position too.
>
> Been digging through every site I know of, finally googled it...this is
> what I came up. Do I need all of this?
>
> http://www.ecklersmbzparts.com/mercedes-turbo-mount-gasket-kit-123-126-chassis.html
>
> Thanks loyal list members.
>
>
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Salvage title MB

 


I'd look it up on Kelly Blue Book just for a laugh ~ that's a $1,500 car here in La La Land , tops .

-Nate
Trish wrote:
>
> I stopped again today and spoke to someone about the car. He misinformed
> me right off, or he was confused. He said it was hit in the back...NO it
> was obvious from the broken molding that THEY hit someone in the back.
> Didn't pop the hood to see what kind of damage was done under there. The
> drivers door sounded kinda squeeky when I opened it, like it was hung up
> just a tad from the hit. It's a '98. No telling on miles, didn't want to
> take the key to drive it. They want a total of $6500 with $1500 down. Too
> right for my bank account. He said he might come down $200. Yeah, he
> bought it at auction and didn't pay near that much for the car. It IS nice
> compared to my car, but again it's not a diesel.
>
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Injector Leak

 


Yes but ;

Mre often there's a *tiny* leak in the hose and the Diesel dribbles down the injector body & puddles up right where the two halves come to - gether .

You'll need a 17MM open end or crow foot wrench to loosen the fuel pipe then a deep 27MM socket and a l-o-n-g flex handle to both break the old injector loose and to properly tighen up the new or rebuilt one .

-Nate
Chip wrote:
>
> Can an injector leak in the middle? I know about the leak from the rubber tube that drains the diesel back into the fuel and those replacements. And I think I know about the compression washers that crush down to create a seal between the injector and the cylinder head.
> And I know about the potential leak from the fuel line to the injector. But, is there a third location and option for a leak in the injector body itself? If so, is there a fix, or is that a sure sign of replacement.
>
> If I replace, do I replace all?
>
> My rear most injector is leaking, the one closest to the firewall.
>
> Chip
> Houston
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : I thought I was feeling like the Maytag Repair Man.

 


Whew ! .

I hate overheating because it brings along too many other problems .

I hope you know to always turn the heater on HIGH whenver it runs too hot .

Now you'll need to check and adjust the valves again and the rubber rockerbox gasket will prolly need replacing as the heat makes it to stiff to seal well .

I had a 1963 Renault Dauphine , it had the wretched Ferlic semi-automatic clutch that worked (partially) via the field coils in the Paris - Rhone generator , of course neither the generator nor the ferlic clutch worked.....

It was uber cute though .

I paid $35 for it running and still managed to loose $ on it .

-Nate
Chip wrote:
>
> So what is it about life that once you think you have a little part of it cornered up the way you want it, you don't?
>
> I was poised to post up an email last Friday around the whole Maytag Repair Man idea. My coupe was running perfectly and I was bored with nothing to do and found myself looking for Renault Dauphin's again.
>
> Just then I happened to glance down at my instrument panel and was surprised to find my temperature gauge in my coupe almost in the red.
> Looking a little further down my red alternator light was also on.
>
> At 85 mph I was not completely sure that I had blown a fan belt, but I was pretty sure. Lucky for me on two fronts that diesels don't need electricity to run and that when I drove below 40 mph my motor stayed below the red mark by a good bit.
>
> Limping home I raised the hood and confirmed my earlier diagnosis. The thought of this Renault Dauphin quickly faded from sight again.
>
> Chip
> Houston
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Nate would be proud

 


Well ;

Nate tends to buy junkers anyway so maybe not too proud....

I think buying any Mercedes gasser will be a big let down to you .

Chucks' (?) 300SD with working AC for $1,200 sounds pretty good to me , of course there's work needed but if it passes the Oil Cap Test and isn't rusty , dented and on and on , it might well be your salvation .

I thought you said the bad engine was long gone , no ? . Hm .

OBTW : the Lonely Hearts Club will have the regular meeting this Friday , don't forget to bring a Cassrole .

-Nate
Trish wrote:
>
> I keep seeing a MB at a car lot here in Ennis and had time to stop today.
> Yes, it's pretty, but I walked away laughing when I saw the paperwork on
> the front seat stating it had a "salvage" title! It wasn't a diesel
> anyhow. It was a E320.
>
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Turbo gasket kit

 

I couldn't find it on AutohauzAZ, called and they said they didn't have it.  Checked Peach & Rock, then googled it and Ecklers came up. 

A friend told me about the DART van pool that I can take to the new job in downtown Dallas.  Costs between $25-$40 a month, depending on how many are in the van, (they were closed when I called, so I won't know firm price till tomorrow)  so I might sell this crappy car and get a good one in the near future.  I won't need it for work and I won't have to worry about paying for parking.  I won't have to deal with traffic and can plug in my headphones for a nice meditative ride to/from work.  It might be a good way to network too. I just hope no one in the van pool stinks...B.O. perfume/after shave, gas, smoker...:)

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:19 PM, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Ecklers is the old Performance Products. High priced good stuff. You probably don't need everything, but Ecklers is good for showing you all of the parts. Maybe you can save $10 elsewhere.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: I thought I was feeling like the Maytag Repair Man.

 

Having been raised by and among automotive Francophiles, more than a few Dauphines were tried.  Eventually, most settled on Peugeots (403s and 404s) for their build quality, (relatively) conventional design, and longevity.  (My godfather put over 200,000 miles on a 403 before he finally sold it, running, to some hapless college kid in the early '80s.)  Unfortunately, the 504s of the 70s ended the great love affair....

Diesel content (though not MB):  Few are aware that Winnebago made a mini-RV, "LeSharo" (and stablemate Itasca Phasar) based on the Renault Trafic minivan, from '84 to '91.  For the first three years, it was powered by a 2.1 litre, four cylinder Renault indirect injected turbo-diesel.  Yeah, it wasn't, and isn't, for everyone....

Mark in Lakewood, CO ('79 SD and '85 LeSharo TD, definitely NOT feeling like the Maytag repairman)

From: "Chip" <czulli@gmail.com>
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:48:24 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: I thought I was feeling like the Maytag Repair Man.

 

Brad,

This should be a simple belt change. I have not done the job yet, but I'll post up any thing interesting. I don't think anything is seized.

The Renault was the poor man's excuse for a VW bug in the late 50's and 60's. They were pretty much pieces of junk, but the French body styles on the 2cv and the Dauphin gave grown on me over the years.

My dad had both of these models, but you hardly ever see one any more.

Chip

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Turbo gasket kit

 

Ecklers is the old Performance Products. High priced good stuff. You probably don't need everything, but Ecklers is good for showing you all of the parts. Maybe you can save $10 elsewhere.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Trish Dougherty <purrfectharmonyfarm@wifi45.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:01 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Turbo gasket kit

 
Got a call about an awesome job I interviewed for over a month ago. 

Now it's time to get serious about fixing the gushing oil leak from my turbo. No way can I drive the truck that far daily, would cost me half of my pay...I have to pay for parking at this position too.

Been digging through every site I know of, finally googled it...this is what I came up.   Do I need all of this? 

http://www.ecklersmbzparts.com/mercedes-turbo-mount-gasket-kit-123-126-chassis.html

Thanks loyal list members.


--
Trish Dougherty
PurrFect Harmony Farm
Ennis, TX
http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com



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[diesel_mercedes] Re: I thought I was feeling like the Maytag Repair Man.

 

Brad,

This should be a simple belt change. I have not done the job yet, but I'll post up any thing interesting. I don't think anything is seized.

The Renault was the poor man's excuse for a VW bug in the late 50's and 60's. They were pretty much pieces of junk, but the French body styles on the 2cv and the Dauphin gave grown on me over the years.

My dad had both of these models, but you hardly ever see one any more.

Chip

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, john public <brad_macaboy1234@...> wrote:
>
> chip, will it not be relatively easy to replace the belt, or do you have  a seized pulley?
> I had to check out the Renault you mentioned; they remind me of the old Simcas.
>
> --- On Tue, 7/31/12, Chip <czulli@...> wrote:
>
> From: Chip <czulli@...>
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] I thought I was feeling like the Maytag Repair Man.
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 8:54 AM
>
> So what is it about life that once you think you have a little part of it cornered up the way you want it, you don't?
>
> I was poised to post up an email last Friday around the whole Maytag Repair Man idea.  My coupe was running perfectly and I was bored with nothing to do and found myself looking for Renault Dauphin's again. 
>
> Just then I happened to glance down at my instrument panel and was surprised to find my temperature gauge in my coupe almost in the red.
> Looking a little further down my red alternator light was also on.
>
> At 85 mph I was not completely sure that I had blown a fan belt, but I was pretty sure.  Lucky for me on two fronts that diesels don't need electricity to run and that when I drove below 40 mph my motor stayed below the red mark by a good bit.
>
> Limping home I raised the hood and confirmed my earlier diagnosis.  The thought of this Renault Dauphin quickly faded from sight again.
>
> Chip
> Houston
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] I thought I was feeling like the Maytag Repair Man.

 

chip, will it not be relatively easy to replace the belt, or do you have  a seized pulley?
I had to check out the Renault you mentioned; they remind me of the old Simcas.

--- On Tue, 7/31/12, Chip <czulli@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] I thought I was feeling like the Maytag Repair Man.
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 8:54 AM

So what is it about life that once you think you have a little part of it cornered up the way you want it, you don't?

I was poised to post up an email last Friday around the whole Maytag Repair Man idea.  My coupe was running perfectly and I was bored with nothing to do and found myself looking for Renault Dauphin's again. 

Just then I happened to glance down at my instrument panel and was surprised to find my temperature gauge in my coupe almost in the red.
Looking a little further down my red alternator light was also on.

At 85 mph I was not completely sure that I had blown a fan belt, but I was pretty sure.  Lucky for me on two fronts that diesels don't need electricity to run and that when I drove below 40 mph my motor stayed below the red mark by a good bit.

Limping home I raised the hood and confirmed my earlier diagnosis.  The thought of this Renault Dauphin quickly faded from sight again.

Chip
Houston



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