Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED

 

Hear, hear... motion seconded..

bk

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From: Boyd Wright <bgthegreat@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 5:11 AM

 

It is time that the administrator of diesel mercedes @ yahoo replace this discussion with mercedes diesel repair and maintenance only!
 
Boyd G. Wright  (410)592-5857

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Man has not been a good steward of the earth.He will be replaced by another lifeform
--- On Mon, 6/11/12, n61cm <jim@tazwade.com> wrote:

From: n61cm <jim@tazwade.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 7:00 AM

 
This really shouldn't be a political argument. It should be an engineering discussion. Oil is a finite resource and it puts carbon and particulates in the atmosphere which, even if you do not subscribe to climate change, I think we can all agree, is not good for our kids to breathe, and we have to pay some of the biggest a-holes on earth to get our hands on it, whether those a-holes are international or domestic. So either we can use our heads to move off oil or we can't, it's as simple as that. As we all know, these old diesels we discuss in this forum move quite well on solar LOL which is why I'm here...to keep it rolling. Jim --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Stan George <ssgkag@...> wrote: > > I wish you guys would take your political/religious views to an > appropriate venue. This is not it. > -- > Stan George Portland << >

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED

 

Boyd: 
 
    Perhaps the writer was expressing the hope that technology will develop that allow him to continue driving his Mercedes diesel? 
 
    Or do you believe that the availability of fuel, in the future, has nothing to do with Mercedes diesels? 
 
    You may have noticed two things in the past decade or so: 
 
1)    We like to suggest, and push for, economic and trade sanctions against countries that we disagree with, or that we fear, or that have resources that compete with our own multinational corporate policy makers; 
 
2)    We are the ONLY industrialized society that likes to pretend that philosophical phantasies trump actual science. 
 
    What happens if or when the rest of the world decides to sanction us (using our own model) for refusing to do anything meaningful about our continuing insistence that we have the right to pollute and cause global warming without any restraint? 
 
    What happens if a concerned rest of the world cuts off our supplies of oil with which to run our beloved diesels? 
 
    The development of alternative fuel sources and cleaner energy sources has a lot to do with the driving that we all love to do.  Have you read any of the posts detailing my, or Nates, or Rob's or other Mercedes drivers' road trips?  I want those to continue to be possible.  Do you? 
 
Tom 
 
 
In a message dated 6/11/2012 5:08:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bgthegreat@verizon.net writes:
What does this last broadcast have to do with Mercedes diesel? 
 
BG
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED

 

    Brad also knows that the 'retirement' income of many professors includes money paid for their book publishing and their investments in technologies that the invented and patented during their teaching tenure. 
 
    He isn't stupid.  He's just lying.  There is a tiny percentage of teachers at any level who have large retirement incomes.  Brad knows that, but he also knows what Rush has told him to say.  And obeying Rush is more important than the truth. 
 
    I may be in California now, but I grew up in New England and know how teachers are treated there. 
 
Tom 
 
 
In a message dated 6/11/2012 7:02:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aleph93@ca.rr.com writes:
 

Brad,

If you're talking about college instructors, then they're known as
professors, not teachers. While many people teach in different ways,
when you say teacher, it usually refers to a K-12 school teacher. While
teachers can retire as early as 55, the percentage of retirement is
quite low, whereas if you work 30 yrs or more, and in your mid-sixties,
you can get a higher percentage of retirement, though your life
expectancy after retiring is shorter. Beating up on teachers seems to be
the thing lately.

I'm hoping that I can drive my MB 300D well into retirement, yet that
will be awhile.

Rob
Garden Grove, CA

On 6/10/12 10:47 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: They LIED
> Posted by: "john public"brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com trenchdiggingone
> Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:30 am ((PDT))
>
> My old MB doesn't get great mileage but I like it.
>
> I included civil servants in that statement. There are MANY civil servants (including state college system teachers) in MA that receive in excess of $100k/yr pensions, here. There are several in excess of $200k/yr, actually. I am related to some of these people; they have "retired" at 55 and are working on a second pension. I don't begrudge their good fortune, but I know it can't go on indefinitely. That was point.
>
> If it is such a great system in CA, why did Brown announce a further budgetary shortfall of several BILLION? Why are business moving to Nevada from California? Why did Vallejo declare bankruptcy and what is happening in Stockton? Eventually there are not enough taxpayers to maintain the system.
>
> I have written no untruths here.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Hemp as an oil source.

 

    Perhaps, in some areas, it would be possible to use collected, concentrated solar to heat the fermentation vessels? 
 
    Once the mirrors and lenses for solar concentration are set up, the main expense, I expect, would be cleaning the surfaces to maintain efficiency. 
 
Tom 
 
 
In a message dated 6/11/2012 6:46:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aldridgetony97@yahoo.com writes:
 

That will work if you have a warm enough place to keep the fermentation going well, and if you have a big enough supply of organic material. If you have to heat the fermentation vats then it probably won't pay.
Tony.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Yahoo! Member Service <tccservice111@...> wrote:
>
> No one has tried my method make fuel from garabge.That is sort all paper,boxes,plant mess,and brew to alcohol.The left overs can be tilled in the soils
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/11/12, williamc <wmcowart@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: williamc <wmcowart@...>
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Hemp as an oil source.
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 7:02 AM
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@> wrote:
> >
> > There is little to recommend trying to grow oil crops north of the Mason Dixon line, there just is not enough sunshine per square inch.
> > The corn oil/ethanol folks only survive because of subsidies. Alcohol is much cheaper if made from cane sugar, and veggie oil will be being made from algae in order to be economically viable. Hemp may be wonderful in all its guises but you have to get into the tropics to be able to use it as fuel.
> > Tony.
>
> There are trees that produce as much as 850 gallons of fuel, per acrea , and the federal government subdizes it, or did. It will not grow south of zone 7. It is the Yellowhorn. There are trees that grow south of zone 7 that produces 750 per acrea. There is even one that grows on the equator. They both grow in quit a varity of soil conditions.
> I have some yellowhorn seeds, but they where not chilled this past winter, so will not grow. I did an experment with a yellowhorn seed, concerning gasification, and quality of oil gas it would produce. The meat burns a prefect blue blaze, topped with a flicker of orange, like propane or natrual gass. It burned better than pecan, which I have expermented with. Pecan is very explosive , and i suspect yellowhorn also is.
> In another post German manadating bio fuels.I read where they where manadating 50% of cars run on bio fuels by 2020, I think it was . The US government has also put a manadate out for the army to use a pre centage of bio diesel in the near term future. I can not remember dates or pre centage.
> In my opinion, we are at an exciting point in time, concerning fuels. No one fuel being the answer for all, will be realized, then wasting money on those just looking for grants will stop, and sources that some have used for years will start truely being produced and used . Bill C
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED

 

yup, used to do a lot of divorces for teachers at retirement age. they all seemed to die before they hit 70. retirement $$$ not much good when you are 6' underground.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Aleph93 <aleph93@ca.rr.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 7:02 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED

 
Brad,

If you're talking about college instructors, then they're known as
professors, not teachers. While many people teach in different ways,
when you say teacher, it usually refers to a K-12 school teacher. While
teachers can retire as early as 55, the percentage of retirement is
quite low, whereas if you work 30 yrs or more, and in your mid-sixties,
you can get a higher percentage of retirement, though your life
expectancy after retiring is shorter. Beating up on teachers seems to be
the thing lately.

I'm hoping that I can drive my MB 300D well into retirement, yet that
will be awhile.

Rob
Garden Grove, CA

On 6/10/12 10:47 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: They LIED
> Posted by: "john public"brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com trenchdiggingone
> Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:30 am ((PDT))
>
> My old MB doesn't get great mileage but I like it.
>
> I included civil servants in that statement. There are MANY civil servants (including state college system teachers) in MA that receive in excess of $100k/yr pensions, here. There are several in excess of $200k/yr, actually. I am related to some of these people; they have "retired" at 55 and are working on a second pension. I don't begrudge their good fortune, but I know it can't go on indefinitely. That was point.
>
> If it is such a great system in CA, why did Brown announce a further budgetary shortfall of several BILLION? Why are business moving to Nevada from California? Why did Vallejo declare bankruptcy and what is happening in Stockton? Eventually there are not enough taxpayers to maintain the system.
>
> I have written no untruths here.


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[diesel_mercedes] HA! Oil cooler line fixed in less than 2 hrs!

 

It took Kevin less than 2 hours to replace the lower oil cooler line!  He didn't have to jack up the car or the motor.  Didn't have to loosen anything extra.

Now if I had the motor shocks...he might have had to do more, but we don't have those on this motor.

On the road again!  Yea!  Just in time.  He called on his way to work to tell me his timing chain broke on the truck! He's stuck waiting on his brother to rescue him.  Good thing he's got all week to fix it!

Job hunting like crazy.  Just filled out an app online for a catering manager position with Panera, one of those loooong many page deals where they ask you question after question, many are repeats.  Heading out in a bit to drop off other applications.  Just found out I'm on some sort of special "plan" with unemployment...they're offering any employer $2,000 if they hire me, keep me for 120 days straight and give me at least 30hrs a week!  Now that should get some interest from employers!  Too bad I can't get that bonus back in MY pay! 




--
Trish Dougherty
PurrFect Harmony Farm
Ennis, TX
http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED

 

Brad,

If you're talking about college instructors, then they're known as
professors, not teachers. While many people teach in different ways,
when you say teacher, it usually refers to a K-12 school teacher. While
teachers can retire as early as 55, the percentage of retirement is
quite low, whereas if you work 30 yrs or more, and in your mid-sixties,
you can get a higher percentage of retirement, though your life
expectancy after retiring is shorter. Beating up on teachers seems to be
the thing lately.

I'm hoping that I can drive my MB 300D well into retirement, yet that
will be awhile.

Rob
Garden Grove, CA

On 6/10/12 10:47 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: They LIED
> Posted by: "john public"brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com trenchdiggingone
> Date: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:30 am ((PDT))
>
> My old MB doesn't get great mileage but I like it.
>
> I included civil servants in that statement. There are MANY civil servants (including state college system teachers) in MA that receive in excess of $100k/yr pensions, here. There are several in excess of $200k/yr, actually. I am related to some of these people; they have "retired" at 55 and are working on a second pension. I don't begrudge their good fortune, but I know it can't go on indefinitely. That was point.
>
> If it is such a great system in CA, why did Brown announce a further budgetary shortfall of several BILLION? Why are business moving to Nevada from California? Why did Vallejo declare bankruptcy and what is happening in Stockton? Eventually there are not enough taxpayers to maintain the system.
>
> I have written no untruths here.

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Hemp as an oil source.

 

The US climate zones were re-mapped this year.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/environment/story/2012-01-26/USDA-climate-zone-map/52787142/1

Plants have a fantastic solar energy conversion rate. With genetic engineering, we can make varieties of plants that do even better, many times what we can do with direct conversion to electricity.

Jim

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : " Going Down Next Thursday "

 

Max, will swing by near the end of the month, will come int the toyota, got somewhere we can camp overnight?
Line out any jobs that you need done, will spend a day. Let you know about a week before we head your way.
Tony

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "max_stemple" <jasperezra@...> wrote:
>
> Big hip surgery on Thursday. Max
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > That sounds like a Hospital to me Max , are you O.K. ? .
> >
> > Should we do anything to help ? .
> >
> > -Nate
> > Max wrote:
> > >
> > > Sacred Heart, Spokane. Max
> > >
> > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Max ;
> > > >
> > > > Where ? .
> > > >
> > > > -Nate
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Hemp as an oil source.

 

That will work if you have a warm enough place to keep the fermentation going well, and if you have a big enough supply of organic material. If you have to heat the fermentation vats then it probably won't pay.
Tony.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Yahoo! Member Service <tccservice111@...> wrote:
>
> No one has tried my method make fuel from garabge.That is sort all paper,boxes,plant mess,and brew to alcohol.The left overs can be tilled in the soils
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/11/12, williamc <wmcowart@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: williamc <wmcowart@...>
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Hemp as an oil source.
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 7:02 AM
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@> wrote:
> >
> > There is little to recommend trying to grow oil crops north of the Mason Dixon line, there just is not enough sunshine per square inch.
> > The corn oil/ethanol folks only survive because of subsidies. Alcohol is much cheaper if made from cane sugar, and veggie oil will be being made from algae in order to be economically viable. Hemp may be wonderful in all its guises but you have to get into the tropics to be able to use it as fuel.
> > Tony.
>
> There are trees that produce as much as 850 gallons of fuel, per acrea , and the federal government subdizes it, or did. It will not grow south of zone 7. It is the Yellowhorn. There are trees that grow south of zone 7 that produces 750 per acrea. There is even one that grows on the equator. They both grow in quit a varity of soil conditions.
> I have some yellowhorn seeds, but they where not chilled this past winter, so will not grow. I did an experment with a yellowhorn seed, concerning gasification, and quality of oil gas it would produce. The meat burns a prefect blue blaze, topped with a flicker of orange, like propane or natrual gass. It burned better than pecan, which I have expermented with. Pecan is very explosive , and i suspect yellowhorn also is.
> In another post German manadating bio fuels.I read where they where manadating 50% of cars run on bio fuels by 2020, I think it was . The US government has also put a manadate out for the army to use a pre centage of bio diesel in the near term future. I can not remember dates or pre centage.
> In my opinion, we are at an exciting point in time, concerning fuels. No one fuel being the answer for all, will be realized, then wasting money on those just looking for grants will stop, and sources that some have used for years will start truely being produced and used . Bill C
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: A Grand Day Out

 

Max,Brian, and Chip,
Add my name to the list, I'm in.
Chuck

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "max_stemple" <jasperezra@...> wrote:
>
> Speaking of 240's I have a Grand Idea. Why don't a bunch of us donate $50 to the 240 Trish car fund and get her a nice 240? I will donate the first $50 and a tank of fuel if we get her one on my 240's. Well, what do you guys think? I think it's brilliant. I won't be able to deliver it on account of my surgery but could do something to make it happen. Maybe one of my boys could do it. Gonna be laying around all summer.Max
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > SWMBO says we're off to explore who knows where to - day , taking our Foster boys for a nice ride out of The Big City , I figure we'll just drive up The Pacific Coast Highway in our '82 240D ~ it's only got 300,00 + miles on the original engine and it's AC works best .
> >
> > What could possibly go wrong ? .
> >
> > =8-) .
> >
> > -Nate
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] trash into fuel

 

Tennessee will start a trash sorting plant in my County.I think they are sorting for recyclables.However waste vegetable matter and papers would be a asset to this country

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED

 

What does this last broadcast have to do with Mercedes diesel? 
 
BG
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I'm for building repilcators,and replictae diesel and gasoline from bare minerals
--- On Mon, 6/11/12, n61cm <jim@tazwade.com> wrote:

From: n61cm <jim@tazwade.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 6:52 AM

 
We have a tendency to think that we have to have one single thing to replace oil. There is no silver bullet. But there are a lot of silver BBs. We can't replace oil with wind and solar, but we can do a lot better than 4%. (We're already adding 10% solar to our gasoline, so the 4% max figure quoted here is obviously already out of touch with reality.) Genetically modified algae farms can create huge amounts of oil. Really the only thing we need oil for are big trucks and airplanes. Everything else can be easily operated on other fuels. Some of the things we have to change are our own habits. For instance, instead of chasing the holy grail of a battery that will go 1000 miles and charge in 5 minutes, what if we treated existing battery technology like we do our propane tanks? You buy one with the grill, and then you either fill it up yourself or swap it for a filled one. We have 100 mile batteries now. I'd love to be able to plug it in every night after work, OR drive across the country on electric, and just stop every 100 miles to swap a battery. I gotta pee anyway LOL. Battery swapping stations are so much easier to build than gas stations, too. All you need is a swapping robot and electricity. No underground tanks, etc. So car manufacturers need to develop and agree on a standard battery, just like there are standard propane tanks. I think the battery swapping stations would spring up on their own. Heck I'd probably open one. Jim

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED

 

It is time that the administrator of diesel mercedes @ yahoo replace this discussion with mercedes diesel repair and maintenance only!
 
Boyd G. Wright  (410)592-5857

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Man has not been a good steward of the earth.He will be replaced by another lifeform
--- On Mon, 6/11/12, n61cm <jim@tazwade.com> wrote:

From: n61cm <jim@tazwade.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: They LIED
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 7:00 AM

 
This really shouldn't be a political argument. It should be an engineering discussion. Oil is a finite resource and it puts carbon and particulates in the atmosphere which, even if you do not subscribe to climate change, I think we can all agree, is not good for our kids to breathe, and we have to pay some of the biggest a-holes on earth to get our hands on it, whether those a-holes are international or domestic. So either we can use our heads to move off oil or we can't, it's as simple as that. As we all know, these old diesels we discuss in this forum move quite well on solar LOL which is why I'm here...to keep it rolling. Jim--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Stan George <ssgkag@...> wrote:>> I wish you guys would take your political/religious views to an > appropriate venue. This is not it.> -- > Stan George Portland <<>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Hemp as an oil source.

 

No one has tried my method make fuel from garabge.That is sort all paper,boxes,plant mess,and brew to alcohol.The left overs can be tilled in the soils


--- On Mon, 6/11/12, williamc <wmcowart@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: williamc <wmcowart@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Hemp as an oil source.
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 7:02 AM

 


--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@...> wrote:
>
> There is little to recommend trying to grow oil crops north of the Mason Dixon line, there just is not enough sunshine per square inch.
> The corn oil/ethanol folks only survive because of subsidies. Alcohol is much cheaper if made from cane sugar, and veggie oil will be being made from algae in order to be economically viable. Hemp may be wonderful in all its guises but you have to get into the tropics to be able to use it as fuel.
> Tony.

There are trees that produce as much as 850 gallons of fuel, per acrea , and the federal government subdizes it, or did. It will not grow south of zone 7. It is the Yellowhorn. There are trees that grow south of zone 7 that produces 750 per acrea. There is even one that grows on the equator. They both grow in quit a varity of soil conditions.
I have some yellowhorn seeds, but they where not chilled this past winter, so will not grow. I did an experment with a yellowhorn seed, concerning gasification, and quality of oil gas it would produce. The meat burns a prefect blue blaze, topped with a flicker of orange, like propane or natrual gass. It burned better than pecan, which I have expermented with. Pecan is very explosive , and i suspect yellowhorn also is.
In another post German manadating bio fuels.I read where they where manadating 50% of cars run on bio fuels by 2020, I think it was . The US government has also put a manadate out for the army to use a pre centage of bio diesel in the near term future. I can not remember dates or pre centage.
In my opinion, we are at an exciting point in time, concerning fuels. No one fuel being the answer for all, will be realized, then wasting money on those just looking for grants will stop, and sources that some have used for years will start truely being produced and used . Bill C

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