Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: New to group

 

Oh wow....  It's a '77!  This car would benefit greatly by installing the parallel, pencil-tip conversion:


http://dieselgiant.com/diesel_parts_for_sale.htm#5%20cylinder%20Glow%20Plug%20Retrofit%20Kit%20for%20the%20Older%20Loop%20Style%20Plugs


I performed this modification to the '77 300D I had a few years ago.  It went from being the hardest car to start, to the best, quickest diesel-engined car I've ever owned, even on the coldest days here.  I used the Diesel Giant kit.  A bit pricey, for sure, but it made such a difference that I was more miffed at myself for not doing it sooner than for paying a high price.  Well worth it!


Mark in Centennial, CO

On July 28, 2017 at 7:32 PM "citrogsa@charter.net [diesel_mercedes]" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,
I have sent out several messages to the list, first through my regular email utility (Thunderbird), then through the Charter webmail, and finally on the group page. So far, that is the only one that has gotten through. I have retyped my info several times! Very frustrating.
So here goes again, on the group page. I have a 1977 W123 240D with series glow plugs and the metal relay under the dash. I just bought the car a few months ago and need to get the bugs out of it.
I'm beginning to realize that the car had fairly good cosmetic workover on it shortly before I bought it, and he did a few major things, but he seems to have ignored the basic condition of the engine. Well, that's fine. We can fix that, right?
I think I need to replace every filter. Three tries and then a stumbling start, no smoke. Since fiddling with the relay, that seems better, though the blade fuse looks corroded and I think it would be a smart thing to put a fresh one in.


 

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] New to group

 

Not a big fan of the new Bosch glow plugs.  They're lifespans are too short.  I think they're made in India now.  The old German- and French-made ones were much better.  Berus are the way to go these days.


http://www.beruparts.com/category.sc;jsessionid=C924F7D493BFE967C2341D7CDE8F0C85.qscstrfrnt01?categoryId=66


BTW and off-topic:  I still have my '67 DS Pallas.  Runs and drives, but it needs a lot of work....


Mark in Centennial, CO

On July 28, 2017 at 10:23 AM "Aleph93 aleph93@ca.rr.com [diesel_mercedes]" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Besides unplugging and re-plugging relay, which is a good idea, you can check the glow plugs with a multi-meter set to ohms at the relay, when not in use. It's usually obvious if one is bad. They should be around zero, where the bad one's are something else. There are little numbers at each post, which correspond to each cylinder, 1 in front. Only buy Bosch glow plugs.

The link below gives some info.

http://dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm

Rob

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On 7/28/17 7:30 AM, Max temple jasperezra@gmail.com [diesel_mercedes] wrote:
Pop the lid on the rely box and unplug and plug back in the plug a few times. Worked for me when the glows dont light up. Max

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 5:08 AM, citrogsa@charter.net [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hello Stan,
My email is being blocked by Charter. I've been out of communication for almost a week. They are quick with the bills, but not the help.
I got the tie rods on last night. The next big problem is figuring out why I get no glow plugs most of the time. Three, sometimes four turns of the key and they finally come on most of the time. I should look for a signal to the relay. If that's not it, then the relay is wonky.
The metal relays are pricey. Does anyone have luck fixing them?
Mark Bardenwerper


 

 


 

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Hi Bill,
I have sent out several messages to the list, first through my regular email utility (Thunderbird), then through the Charter webmail, and finally on the group page. So far, that is the only one that has gotten through. I have retyped my info several times! Very frustrating.
So here goes again, on the group page. I have a 1977 W123 240D with series glow plugs and the metal relay under the dash. I just bought the car a few months ago and need to get the bugs out of it.
I'm beginning to realize that the car had fairly good cosmetic workover on it shortly before I bought it, and he did a few major things, but he seems to have ignored the basic condition of the engine. Well, that's fine. We can fix that, right?
I think I need to replace every filter. Three tries and then a stumbling start, no smoke. Since fiddling with the relay, that seems better, though the blade fuse looks corroded and I think it would be a smart thing to put a fresh one in.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] New to group

 

Besides unplugging and re-plugging relay, which is a good idea, you can check the glow plugs with a multi-meter set to ohms at the relay, when not in use. It's usually obvious if one is bad. They should be around zero, where the bad one's are something else. There are little numbers at each post, which correspond to each cylinder, 1 in front. Only buy Bosch glow plugs.

The link below gives some info.

http://dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm

Rob

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On 7/28/17 7:30 AM, Max temple jasperezra@gmail.com [diesel_mercedes] wrote:
Pop the lid on the rely box and unplug and plug back in the plug a few times. Worked for me when the glows dont light up. Max

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 5:08 AM, citrogsa@charter.net [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hello Stan,
My email is being blocked by Charter. I've been out of communication for almost a week. They are quick with the bills, but not the help.
I got the tie rods on last night. The next big problem is figuring out why I get no glow plugs most of the time. Three, sometimes four turns of the key and they finally come on most of the time. I should look for a signal to the relay. If that's not it, then the relay is wonky.
The metal relays are pricey. Does anyone have luck fixing them?
Mark Bardenwerper



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[diesel_mercedes] Re: New to group

 

Also, check out the group photo albums. There are a lot of "fix-it" pics for various models. You can also do a search within the 15 years or so of group postings by name, car, problem, or other trait. There is a lot of information in the group postings - you just have to mine for it sometimes.

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Pop the lid on the rely box and unplug and plug back in the plug a few times. Worked for me when the glows dont light up. Max

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 5:08 AM, citrogsa@charter.net [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hello Stan,
My email is being blocked by Charter. I've been out of communication for almost a week. They are quick with the bills, but not the help.
I got the tie rods on last night. The next big problem is figuring out why I get no glow plugs most of the time. Three, sometimes four turns of the key and they finally come on most of the time. I should look for a signal to the relay. If that's not it, then the relay is wonky.
The metal relays are pricey. Does anyone have luck fixing them?
Mark Bardenwerper


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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Mercedes 1982 to 1985 parts and videos on how to repair.

 

all gone as of July 25

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] New to group

 

I did a search on eBay using .. Mercedes glow plug relay

You can narrow this down by putting in your car's specifics. Bill in Oregon

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=mercedes+glow+plug+relay&_sop=15

 

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Hello Stan,
My email is being blocked by Charter. I've been out of communication for almost a week. They are quick with the bills, but not the help.
I got the tie rods on last night. The next big problem is figuring out why I get no glow plugs most of the time. Three, sometimes four turns of the key and they finally come on most of the time. I should look for a signal to the relay. If that's not it, then the relay is wonky.
The metal relays are pricey. Does anyone have luck fixing them?
Mark Bardenwerper

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] New to group

 

Hello Stan,
My email is being blocked by Charter. I've been out of communication for almost a week. They are quick with the bills, but not the help.
I got the tie rods on last night. The next big problem is figuring out why I get no glow plugs most of the time. Three, sometimes four turns of the key and they finally come on most of the time. I should look for a signal to the relay. If that's not it, then the relay is wonky.
The metal relays are pricey. Does anyone have luck fixing them?
Mark Bardenwerper

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