[diesel_mercedes] Fuel Economy Check '82 240D Slushbox

 


175 miles , lotsa me snoozing inside with the AC going whilst SWMBO is shopping or whatnot .

20.7 MPG , we ran out of <magic> Power Service Cetane Boost a few fillups ago and just began adding again with this fillup , it'll be interesting to see how much more MPG's I get if any .

Southern California has been getting raped over fuel prices the last two weeks ~ there was a two day electical problem in *one* refinery
and all the refineries colluded to create another fake ' gas shortage 'and increased the price of RUG to .50 cents more than Diesel fuel even though their own watch dog group said there WAS NO SHORTAGE OF GASOLINE and there's still plenty to ship off shore .

So much for the lie that Diesel fuel costs more to refine , I told you they were lying , they always do .

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Rubber Exhaust Donuts

 


The plain ones will break , it's just a matter of time .

The better ones are supposed to be difficult to install .

I'd scrap all standard donuts now .

-Nate
Caitlin wrote :
>
> Now...I finally got around to switching mine out last week (installing the
> chain-reinforced, replacing the "wire-loop-temp-fix" installed by the kind
> stranger) and the new donuts didn't seem to fit as well on the two more
> forward hooks (just fine on the 2 rear). I did leave one with the old
> style (not yet broken) rubber donut. Is it gonna hang ok in those front
> attachments? or should i only use the reinforced ones on the rear, and do
> the forward (mid-body) ones *require* a different donut?
>
> Caitlin
> 83 300SD
> Santa Fe, NM
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Sexy girl has vacuum question 1984 300D

 


I'll allow one of the Egnieers to explain how the pressure waves inside the primary vacuum tube alow the oil to work it's way from the engine up into the body but trust me , it happens and overhauling the vacuum pump stops it nearly dead .

If the IP's shutoff valve begins leaking , the engine will be *very* slow to stop and , your entire vacuum system will fill with oil and nasty black Diesel fuel contaminated oil will soon begin dripping out of the lower dashboard & onto SWMBO's leg as this failure will surely occurr when she's driving....

I'm *green* with envy ~ none of my cars holds vacum more than two or three days .

-Nate
Jim Ponders :
>
> Oh darn it I've been discovered! LOL
>
> What about the diaphragm in the shutoff valve at the injection pump? Won't that leak oil into the tubes? Car shuts off no problem when the tubes are hooked up so that would indicate that the diaphragm is intact...unless it has a tiny hole...
>
> I don't understand how the vacuum pump can leak oil into the tubes since the air flow should be toward the pump. How can oil move upstream in the air flow?
>
> System holds vacuum...recently left car parked for two weeks and locks opened like magic with a turn of the key. Don't know if leaky shutoff valve diaphragm would let vacuum leak out while parked...(or I should say, let air leak in...)
>
> Will add the fuel filter into the line to see what's happening with that...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Air Breather Mounting Bracket

 


13MM 6 point socket on a 8" wobble typ 3/8" drive extension .

Remove that bolt and expect to drop it the first time you do the job.....

It *must* have a flat 8MM washer ! . that too , will fall and be lost .

Sunday I took the whole day off and drove SWMBO 'round in her '82 240D with the R-12 charged AC set to " Meat Locker " , when I spotted a Union 76 filling station in the late afternoon with $4.27 / gallon Diesel fuel , I stopped and filled it , adding three Oz. of Power Service Cetane Boost , checked the underhood fluids and marveled a while at the now repaired air filter and unbroken intake manifold all shaking as the worn out engine idled in gear with the AC on as I checked the ATF .

It used no oil this last tank of fuel , no ATF either .

She'd said we could overhaul both the engne and tranny this past August but Anton's College Car had issues and it's eating up most of that budget dammit .

Work slowly and over a flat cement area Chip , this job is do-able , just a PIA the first time (or three) you do it .

I highly suggest spending slightly more for the hexagonal rubber air cleaner mounts .

-Nate
Chip wrote :
>
> I replaced 2 of the bushings holding my air cleaner on Saturday on my 82 300CD Turbo. My third mounting point of the bracket had broken off some years ago but the piece still clung to the air cleaner body.
>
> I had previously ordered a new mounting bracket for the job but gave up putting on the new bracket when I saw where the bracing bolt mounts underneath the triangular assemble. I mad a couple of tries with a socket and ratchet but decided I would ask this board what works on the removal of that bolt?
>
> What have others used to get that bolt out and put on a new triangular mounting plate?
>
> Chip
> Houston
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Older Mercedes

 


He looked no more than 40 , wasn't looking happy as I surely would were I driving that dreamboat .

-Nate
Max wrote :
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> My 59 190D(55hp) would go very fast, it just took a while to get there. It would cruise at 65, very steady, just did not like stopping fast. Was this guy old, or maybe just off the farm?Max
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "vwnate1" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Last night close to midnight I was testing the repairs made to my trusty if battered 1959 Metropolitan Nash Fixed Head Coupe , as I entered the freeway I passed an early 1960's Mercedes Drop Head Coupe (Convertible) plodding along in the slow lane doing under 55 MPH .
> >
> > It looked at least as good as new , maybe better .
> >
> > It was silent in operation , I wonder why he was driving so slowly ~ my Metro barely goes 65 and I passed him like a rabbit in a thicket as others were zooming up behind him and swerving wildly to avoid crashing into him so I didn't stick around to enjoy the view .
> >
> > I'm not so sure older Mercedes are necessarily slow , my '81 240D W/ slushbox is no ball of fire but it goes along @ 60 just fine , faster if I don't mind wa$ting fuel .
> >
> > -Nate
> >

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Rubber donuts

 

Now...I finally got around to switching mine out last week (installing the chain-reinforced, replacing the "wire-loop-temp-fix" installed by the kind stranger) and the new donuts didn't seem to fit as well on the two more forward hooks (just fine on the 2 rear).  I did leave one with the old style (not yet broken) rubber donut.  Is it gonna hang ok in those front attachments? or should i only use the reinforced ones on the rear, and do the forward (mid-body) ones *require* a different donut?


Caitlin
83 300SD
Santa Fe, NM

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : W-123 Door Window Service

 

Havent got into mine yet. I am putting some weight on my leg though. What house batts?? Bus batts? I get long life out of all my batteries, but then I don't use any of them very much because I don't hardly drive, except house batts, they get used every day,I have averaged 10 years per set for those. Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "aldridgetony97" <aldridgetony97@...> wrote:
>
> Replaced the driver side window mechanism to day using the one from the bear wagon, took a while but managed not to break anything except one of the arm rest threaded clips, & just took one off the old door.
> Max what broke was the rivet that holds the arm on the final gear the third one out from the motor. Now after 6 mos we have all windows working.
> Tony
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "vwnate1" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Glad to have been of help Tony ;
> >
> > -Nate
> > Tony wrote :
> > >
> > > Thank you Nate, your directions made it much easier to pull the window wind mechanism from the bear wagon. I brought the drivers side door home, for practising. Got the liner off and the mechanism out & tested. Should be pretty straight forward to install it in my car now & have the spare nylon clips from the old door if some break.
> > > Tony
> > >
> >
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Air Breather Mounting Bracket

 

I can't  visualize your issue - but I have 2 or 3 t-brackets which are plentiful in the PAP's. I also buy a bunch of the rubber shocks and metal cups to keep on hand. I think having two cars to take care of has turned me into a mini parts store. Last week a friend (Duane) looked in my trunk (or boot) and said I could do an engine overhaul on a freeway offramp - naw, I would need a tree with a strong limb for the engine hoist.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 5:19 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Air Breather Mounting Bracket

 
I replaced 2 of the bushings holding my air cleaner on Saturday on my 82 300CD Turbo. My third mounting point of the bracket had broken off some years ago but the piece still clung to the air cleaner body.

I had previously ordered a new mounting bracket for the job but gave up putting on the new bracket when I saw where the bracing bolt mounts underneath the triangular assemble. I mad a couple of tries with a socket and ratchet but decided I would ask this board what works on the removal of that bolt?

What have others used to get that bolt out and put on a new triangular mounting plate?

Chip
Houston



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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Sexy girl has vacuum question 1984 300D

 

Oh darn it I've been discovered! LOL

What about the diaphragm in the shutoff valve at the injection pump? Won't that leak oil into the tubes? Car shuts off no problem when the tubes are hooked up so that would indicate that the diaphragm is intact...unless it has a tiny hole...

I don't understand how the vacuum pump can leak oil into the tubes since the air flow should be toward the pump. How can oil move upstream in the air flow?

System holds vacuum...recently left car parked for two weeks and locks opened like magic with a turn of the key. Don't know if leaky shutoff valve diaphragm would let vacuum leak out while parked...(or I should say, let air leak in...)

Will add the fuel filter into the line to see what's happening with that...

Thanks.

Jim

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "vwnate1" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
>
> Ah Jim ;
>
> Jut ask for help , we'll give it .
>
> Replace both rubber underdash hoses and consider buying a Foo-Foo can of engine starting fluid and a plastic snorkle then disconnecting both ends of both brown plastic vacuum tubes and blowing all the oil out before installing the new hose bits at both ends (four hose bits).
>
> Right where the main vacuum pipe branches off the secondary vacuum supply to door locks , engine cutoff , HVAC and so one , install a small clear plastic VW fuel filter and toss another one in the glove box . (1972 Beetle 1600)
>
> Every time it turns oily , replace it .
>
> If it needs replacing twice in a week , your vacuum pump is dying and needs a rebuild kit , not so hard to do (if a messy , oily job) and you'll be well pleased by the increased vacuum .
>
> Or , pay the garage Man about $1,200 to replace it (he'll claim it's new and just rebuild it) and suffer the new maladies he creates by working sloppily on your " old car " .
>
> I overhauled Tom's for less than $20 using Pick-A-Part parts....
>
> -Nate
> Jim wrote :
> >
> > Hi, I'm a sexy girl with a vacuum question about my 1984 300D. It wouldn't shut off today and when I investigated the problem, I discovered the vacuum tube had come loose off the ignition key thingameebob. I put it back on and the engine turns off fine now, but when I did the job, I found black oil inside the vacuum tube. I remember you guys saying something about how it is bad to have your tube dripping black oil and so I thought I would ask about it before I got down on my hands and knees again and crawled back under the dash.
> >
> > Hugs-n-kisses,
> >
> > Ariel
> >
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Air Breather Mounting Bracket

 

I ground the bolt off and did away with bracket.I use a cold ram air setup.


--- On Mon, 10/8/12, Chip <czulli@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Air Breather Mounting Bracket
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 8, 2012, 7:19 AM

 
I replaced 2 of the bushings holding my air cleaner on Saturday on my 82 300CD Turbo. My third mounting point of the bracket had broken off some years ago but the piece still clung to the air cleaner body.

I had previously ordered a new mounting bracket for the job but gave up putting on the new bracket when I saw where the bracing bolt mounts underneath the triangular assemble. I mad a couple of tries with a socket and ratchet but decided I would ask this board what works on the removal of that bolt?

What have others used to get that bolt out and put on a new triangular mounting plate?

Chip
Houston

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Air Breather Mounting Bracket

 

Nate,

This is extremely helpful advise on this job, save one thing. What kind of a wrench combination are you using to get out that lower bolt on this bracket?

Chip
Houston

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'll stick my neck out and assume you're talking about the air filter 'T' bracket here , the darn things crack and break welds etc. like mad on some cars .
>
> I'v bought new ones but the old unbroken ones I find in the junkyards seem to last longer .
>
> Sometimes you can have the cracks and breaks welded up , I said _WELDED_ not brazed so if they hand you back your bracket with yellow welds , tell them they can keep it and walk away , it's junk now .
>
> ALL those hard to reach 8MM bolts are necessary ! failure to install that hard to reach one in the down facing 'T' bracket leg , gaurantees failure .
>
> 8MM Flat washers underneath each bolt too .
>
> ALL 5 cylinder Diesels use the same bracket , prolly the 4 cylinder cars too ~ I've changed dozens over the last few years of Mercedes Diesel ownership , now I'm replacing the tiny engine $hock Ab$orber$ and the air cleaner isn't as blurry at idle as it used to be , maybe this is the final key .
>
> When you order up the three new rubber mounts , be sure to order up the octagonal ones as they're better & stronger than the simple round ones are . only one Dollar more each one .
>
> Also , use the stamped sheet metal " heat shields " ~ cup shaped things that go between the 'T' bracket and each of the three rubber mounts .
>
> I also take the time to install a 6MM nut and flat washer underneath each rubber mount to prevent it from unscrewing off the 'T' bracket .
>
> I hope this helps....
>
> -Nate
> Chip wrote :
> >
> > I am a little late discovering this but I was going to change my air filter and noticed movement in the breather.
> >
> > I had completely replaced the triangular bracket and rubber mounts on it about three years ago.
> >
> > What I discovered yesterday morning was that someone had tried to yank the breather loose and in the process all that remained of my mounting bracket was one scrap of steel still attached to the bottom of my breather.
> >
> > Can someone tell me a source on a rebuild kit for this job? Seems like I bought my last one from Diesel Giant or maybe Mercedes Source. What I do remember was that it was an all inclusive kit plus instructions to do the job. Any assistance on who still has this kit would be appreciated.
> >
> > Chip
> > Rattling in Houston
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Air Breather Mounting Bracket

 

I replaced 2 of the bushings holding my air cleaner on Saturday on my 82 300CD Turbo. My third mounting point of the bracket had broken off some years ago but the piece still clung to the air cleaner body.

I had previously ordered a new mounting bracket for the job but gave up putting on the new bracket when I saw where the bracing bolt mounts underneath the triangular assemble. I mad a couple of tries with a socket and ratchet but decided I would ask this board what works on the removal of that bolt?

What have others used to get that bolt out and put on a new triangular mounting plate?

Chip
Houston

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