[diesel_mercedes] Re: A little gas in the tank, also ultra low sulfur fuels

 

Copied from another forum,

1. ATF (any flavor) is red in color. It also turns your fuel red. It would be hard to explain red fuel if you ever get dipped.

2. ATF also has friction modifiers in it meant for clutch paks in trannies, not in injection pumps with tight tolerances.

3. This kinda falls under "right tool for the right job". There are much better and cheaper additives to put in the tank designed for diesel engines.

And number 4. This is a quote from another forum. The guy that posted this works in the petrochem industry.
Originally Posted by Flash
How about we look at the chemistry that makes up the Ford ATFs. If you are using Mercon V for your additive, it is a generally 20w mineral fluid and sometimes is a PAO basestock with some diesters. Not bad so far. Now comes the additive package with 2200-2500 ppm's sulphur and 600-800 ppm's of zinc. I don't think I would want to purposely run that much sulphur thru my engine as it will end up as sulphuric acid in the oil. And that much zinc run thru the injectors has got to eventually cause some erosion. So, lets look at Fords Type F ATF. It is a 20w mineral fluid with 12,000-13,000 ppm's of phosphorus, 3500 ppm's zinc, and about 800 ppm's barium. I can't believe this wouldn't poison a diesel engine. The acid load on the oil has to be tremendous. I would suggest using an additive that is made to do the job if you are using an additive at all.

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: A little gas in the tank, also ultra low sulfur fuels

 

Brian said,
"Gents, agree with Nate, she is a keeper, good wives are very hard to come by";

I am a bit late on this one but saw a bumper sticker on a beautiful lady's car that read

"A hard man is good to come by"

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Detroit engine seizure Freeze Plugs

 


Hi Gene & welcome to the group. This group has a tremendous amount of information for the asking. I'm doing a lot of work on my 1983 300D and have found much good advice here. There is also a great forum for DIY mechanics on the peachparts website (ie www.peachparts.com). Get on the site & click the tab for the forum. There is a lot of archived information there and good tutorials on a variety of jobs. Some of these are saved in a special archived area. If you google peachparts wikka or use this link http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/DoItYourSelf there are a bunch of very detailed procedures there that I have found very helpful. Right now I'm in the process of changing the rear axles, replacing the parking brakes, the differential is out so I can replace the axle & pinion seals, the drive shaft support bearing was nearly disintegrated so the drive shaft is out as well as the transmission support, and I just pulled the rear wheel hubs this morning to repack the bearings since it was already apart this far. All these jobs & many more are detailed at peachparts. Check it out & let me know what you think.
Blaise
From: GENE <ekautz@centurytel.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 12:28:51 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Detroit engine seizure Freeze Plugs

 

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:43 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Detroit engine seizure Freeze Plugs
Hi   I just joined the group site . I have purchased a 1987
Mercedes-Benz 124 300d that needs a lot of TLC and I need some repair tec.  information.I signed up with Mitchel 1 on line but they don't show how to repair or
give pic's or discribe how to do repairs. My question is
what is the best repair manual or web site to use?
                Thanks Gene
 

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Topic Drift : Moto Fuel Economy

 

Half the displacement and twice the HP of my 240D, who's mileage I can't quote due to dead odo... If I remember, I'll try to do a run with my GPS toy and record mileage..
Won't be spectacular, it's my late wifes auto trans job...

(..caught behind a Ford van on the 2 lane rd, going about 70, which is OK, but the buffeting wasn't, kicked down and whacked throttle, saw the full ton going by his front fender.  Did I mention that this is an extremely fast Suzuki? )

bk


--- On Tue, 3/15/11, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Topic Drift : Moto Fuel Economy
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 12:33 PM

 


For those who don't know , this is Suzuki's massive workhorse touring Moto , they added a shaft drive to the " Gixxer " Sport Bike and it *flew* across America.....

-Nate
Brian Wrote :

Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G

75,5 miles, 43.9 mpg

$3.99/ga (89 octane gas)

bk, still stiff from first spring ride..

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Topic Drift : Moto Fuel Economy

 

I can't wait to try my "new to me" KLR 650.
They're claiming around 50 mpg.

Now, I just gotta learn about them.

Henry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate" <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:33 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Topic Drift : Moto Fuel Economy

For those who don't know , this is Suzuki's massive workhorse touring Moto ,
they added a shaft drive to the " Gixxer " Sport Bike and it *flew* across
America.....

-Nate
Brian Wrote :

Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G

75,5 miles, 43.9 mpg

$3.99/ga (89 octane gas)

bk, still stiff from first spring ride..

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[diesel_mercedes] Topic Drift : Moto Fuel Economy

 


For those who don't know , this is Suzuki's massive workhorse touring Moto , they added a shaft drive to the " Gixxer " Sport Bike and it *flew* across America.....

-Nate
Brian Wrote :

Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G

75,5 miles, 43.9 mpg

$3.99/ga (89 octane gas)

bk, still stiff from first spring ride..

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Sagging Rear End

 



I know the part number for the replacement rear springs on the TD-wagon models is not the same as the original part number. The TD's are known for sagging rear ends and the adjustment for the hydro leveling system can be tweeked to correct it but is not recommended.
John in Cincinnati

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Nate Rector <tccservice111@...> wrote:
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> could be shocks now that I've thought about it.My  SD sagged in rear do too leaking rear shocks.Replaced them and back to perfect height.
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> --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Don Benski <dbenski@...> wrote:
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> From: Don Benski <dbenski@...>
> Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Sagging Rear End
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:34 PM
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> Thanks for the replies.  Not sure what kind of shocks are on it, probably the original.  I have a couple of those spring wedges on the shelf, I used them on the 240D to compensate for veggie oil tank one side.
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> -Don in St. Louis
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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Sagging Rear End

 

could be shocks now that I've thought about it.My  SD sagged in rear do too leaking rear shocks.Replaced them and back to perfect height.

--- On Tue, 3/15/11, Don Benski <dbenski@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Don Benski <dbenski@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Sagging Rear End
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 1:34 PM

 

Thanks for the replies.  Not sure what kind of shocks are on it, probably the original.  I have a couple of those spring wedges on the shelf, I used them on the 240D to compensate for veggie oil tank one side.

 

-Don in St. Louis

 


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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Sagging Rear End

 

Thanks for the replies.  Not sure what kind of shocks are on it, probably the original.  I have a couple of those spring wedges on the shelf, I used them on the 240D to compensate for veggie oil tank one side.

 

-Don in St. Louis

 

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Need battery tray for W123

 

I fiber glassed over mine both sides,and used longer bolts.

--- On Tue, 3/15/11, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Need battery tray for W123
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 12:46 PM

 
I am sure we have some in L.A., but it may be some time before they pop up. Would suggest ebay. But, I would first take a good look at the Miracle Paint repair process as shown on mercedessource. I mean, if you are going to get a can anyway, why not do a battery tray as a first project?
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: n61cm <jim@tazwade.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 10:12:50 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Need battery tray for W123

 
The battery tray in my 82 240D is rotten. Anyone know where I can get a new (or good junkyard) one? I don't have any junkyards near me.

Thanks,

Jim



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G

 

I meant like you can drive a car.Make a 23 hour trip of 1200 miles.

--- On Tue, 3/15/11, briankk <briankk@att.net> wrote:

From: briankk <briankk@att.net>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 12:55 PM

 
Heh.. Never had a bike that would go 23 hrs non-stop.  Big Suzi good for about 150 miles before re-fill..

bk

--- On Tue, 3/15/11, Nate Rector <tccservice111@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate Rector <tccservice111@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:09 AM

 
When I used to have bikes,on long trips I'd ride an hour then get off and walk around.They sure ain't for cruising 23 hours nonstop.

--- On Tue, 3/15/11, briankk <briankk@att.net> wrote:

From: briankk <briankk@att.net>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 11:16 AM

 
75,5 miles, 43.9 mpg

$3.99/ga  (89 octane gas)

bk, still stiff from first spring ride..

--- On Mon, 3/14/11, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '82 240D Auto AC Not Used
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 9:48 PM

 


229 miles , 23.4 MPG .

$4.56 / gallon .

-Nate



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G

 

Heh.. Never had a bike that would go 23 hrs non-stop.  Big Suzi good for about 150 miles before re-fill..

bk

--- On Tue, 3/15/11, Nate Rector <tccservice111@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate Rector <tccservice111@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 10:09 AM

 

When I used to have bikes,on long trips I'd ride an hour then get off and walk around.They sure ain't for cruising 23 hours nonstop.

--- On Tue, 3/15/11, briankk <briankk@att.net> wrote:

From: briankk <briankk@att.net>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '91 Suzuki GSX1100G
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 11:16 AM

 
75,5 miles, 43.9 mpg

$3.99/ga  (89 octane gas)

bk, still stiff from first spring ride..

--- On Mon, 3/14/11, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Milage Check '82 240D Auto AC Not Used
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 9:48 PM

 


229 miles , 23.4 MPG .

$4.56 / gallon .

-Nate


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Need battery tray for W123

 

I am sure we have some in L.A., but it may be some time before they pop up. Would suggest ebay. But, I would first take a good look at the Miracle Paint repair process as shown on mercedessource. I mean, if you are going to get a can anyway, why not do a battery tray as a first project?
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: n61cm <jim@tazwade.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 10:12:50 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Need battery tray for W123

 

The battery tray in my 82 240D is rotten. Anyone know where I can get a new (or good junkyard) one? I don't have any junkyards near me.

Thanks,

Jim


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