[diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.

 


I tolja Tony.......

Maybe try getting some everclear or clear Vodka and filling the secondary fuel filter with it...

-Nate
Tony Whined :
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> So new fuel filter and cleaned strainer did not help the starting. First start in the morning, starts and runs for a second or two then quits, start it about 3 times and it stays running. above 40 deg F, starts just fine. No problem with starting again once she has run. Before I lash out about $75 for new glow plugs, do you guys think new glow plugs are the answer?.
> $75 is lets see 22 bottles of cheap tequila or about 5 bottles of decent tequila, and if I sort of hang on for another 17 days we will be leaving for Mazatlan and she will start just fine in the warm.
> Tony
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@> wrote:
> >
> > My opinion only - it is like the old spark plug wars between Champion, Autolite, A/C and NGK.  They all worked, but everyone had a war story as to why one was better than another. All I know is that we bought them at the wholesale level for 15 cents, sold them to favored mechanics for 30 cents, sold them to run of the mill mechanics for 60 cents, and to the walk in dummies for $1.25. 
> >
> > Most glow plugs are now made out of country (think Croatia, China, etc), and the PR is about the same. How hard is it to run some electricity to the tip, get it hot enough to heat the diesel, and go "poof" - not exactly rocket science.
> >
> >  
> > brian from laverne, ca
> > Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
> > 1983 w123 300d's
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Lost but making good time. <aldridgetony97@>
> > To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:57 PM
> > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.
> >
> >
> >  
> > The local FLAPS has Bosch glow plugs in stock - are they good?
> > The next nearest FLAPS is 100 miles away. So if my fuel work does not help, I can install them before swmbo leaves for a trip on Sunday.
> >
> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@> wrote:
> > >
> > > She's getting a bit hard to start when it is below freezing (the car that is) so- Cleaned the fuel strainer that I put on a few days after we bought the car, and put in a new secondary filter, did not have one of those silly little primary filters so left it as was. The fuel in the strainer bowl, was kind of dark, so we got 'er all cleaned up.
> > > If that doesnt get her cranked up in the morning, I guess we will either go to Mazatlan or put in new glow plugs or both.
> > > Tony
> > >
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Vacuum connected to heater blower motor 240D?

 


There's a vacuum operated power relay , I wasn't aware the 240D's with manual HVAC controls used it though ~ look for a green plastic pipe , that's the HVAC vacuum feed .

-Nate
Jim wrote :
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> 1982 240D
> I thought the vacuum wasn't mixed up with the heating & a/c system on this car but today I busted a side nipple off the main vacuum tube from the vac pump to the brake booster (aka brake booster vacuum tube). The usual stuff happened...door locks, engine shutoff, but also, the heater blower motor would not work. I thought the vacuum was a separate system in the 240D. The 240D has cables to operate everything in the heater and a/c system, doesn't it? Anyhoo, when I replaced the vacuum tube, the blower motor started working again no problem. So my question is, how does a vacuum outage cause the heater blower motor to not work?
>
> Jim
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Bosch Glow Plugs

 


Made in India junk ? .

_PASS_ ~ go order up a full set of Monarks , you'll be very glad you did .

I now feel badly I tossed out the TWO SETS of good used Bosch Glow Plugs after trying to give them away for several years.....

-Nate
Tony Asked :
>
> The local FLAPS has Bosch glow plugs in stock - are they good?
> The next nearest FLAPS is 100 miles away. So if my fuel work does not help, I can install them before swmbo leaves for a trip on Sunday.
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@> wrote:
> >
> > She's getting a bit hard to start when it is below freezing (the car that is) so- Cleaned the fuel strainer that I put on a few days after we bought the car, and put in a new secondary filter, did not have one of those silly little primary filters so left it as was. The fuel in the strainer bowl, was kind of dark, so we got 'er all cleaned up.
> > If that doesnt get her cranked up in the morning, I guess we will either go to Mazatlan or put in new glow plugs or both.
> > Tony
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.

 


I _TOLJA_ not to park next to my car Tony !! .

You have fungus , you'd better get some Startron in there before it won't start atall or you grind the starter to death.....

I can't find the gallon jugs anymore .

-Nate
Tony wrote :
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> She's getting a bit hard to start when it is below freezing (the car that is) so- Cleaned the fuel strainer that I put on a few days after we bought the car, and put in a new secondary filter, did not have one of those silly little primary filters so left it as was. The fuel in the strainer bowl, was kind of dark, so we got 'er all cleaned up.
> If that doesnt get her cranked up in the morning, I guess we will either go to Mazatlan or put in new glow plugs or both.
> Tony
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Cheao W-123

 


Should I post a cheap W-123 if I find one ? .

-Nate
Tony Said :
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> Boy if it was an 80 / 85 I would be all over it. a parts car would be great to have & it looks to be in better shape than the bear wagon.
> Tony
>
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Timing Chain Wear

 


_CHECK_ it the next time you do a valve adjustment ~ if it's over 3 degrees off , it needs replacing .

-Nate
Nate R. Asked :
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> I hear two sides of this story,One groups says to change timing chain every 200,000 miles,and another group says it uneeded.
> Wish I could do a poll to see how many change chains or not.I have 339,000 miles and wonder if I should.
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : I lost My Pride early on

 


Which time ? .

=8-) .

-Nate
Nate R. wrote :
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> lost my pride when I got married
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : I learned humility early on

 


I have some pride stashed in a cardboard box somewhere.....

I suppose I could find it if I looked , doesn't seem much use to me though .

-Nate
Brad wrote :
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> I have no pride but it sounds like a story that would happen to me anyway.
>
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.

 

So new fuel filter and cleaned strainer did not help the starting. First start in the morning, starts and runs for a second or two then quits, start it about 3 times and it stays running. above 40 deg F, starts just fine. No problem with starting again once she has run. Before I lash out about $75 for new glow plugs, do you guys think new glow plugs are the answer?.
$75 is lets see 22 bottles of cheap tequila or about 5 bottles of decent tequila, and if I sort of hang on for another 17 days we will be leaving for Mazatlan and she will start just fine in the warm.
Tony

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> My opinion only - it is like the old spark plug wars between Champion, Autolite, A/C and NGK.  They all worked, but everyone had a war story as to why one was better than another. All I know is that we bought them at the wholesale level for 15 cents, sold them to favored mechanics for 30 cents, sold them to run of the mill mechanics for 60 cents, and to the walk in dummies for $1.25. 
>
> Most glow plugs are now made out of country (think Croatia, China, etc), and the PR is about the same. How hard is it to run some electricity to the tip, get it hot enough to heat the diesel, and go "poof" - not exactly rocket science.
>
>  
> brian from laverne, ca
> Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
> 1983 w123 300d's
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lost but making good time. <aldridgetony97@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:57 PM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.
>
>
>  
> The local FLAPS has Bosch glow plugs in stock - are they good?
> The next nearest FLAPS is 100 miles away. So if my fuel work does not help, I can install them before swmbo leaves for a trip on Sunday.
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@> wrote:
> >
> > She's getting a bit hard to start when it is below freezing (the car that is) so- Cleaned the fuel strainer that I put on a few days after we bought the car, and put in a new secondary filter, did not have one of those silly little primary filters so left it as was. The fuel in the strainer bowl, was kind of dark, so we got 'er all cleaned up.
> > If that doesnt get her cranked up in the morning, I guess we will either go to Mazatlan or put in new glow plugs or both.
> > Tony
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: I learned humility early on

 


A _GREAT_ story Chip .

I love zizzing my Metropolitan Nash Fixed Head Sports Coupe through the local twisty mountain roads with some Sports Car folks , they all run away in the straight bits but I easly keep p in the twisty bits , until my driving exuberance overcomes the car's ability and I break off yet another wheel and grind to a halt.....

They're (mostly) stil impressed I can out drive them .

-Nate
Chip wrote :
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> It was a 1974 Saturday morning in the fall. I was up early and was reading the classifieds in the Asheville Citizen Times when my eyes fell upon a 190SL for that had sat in the garage for years. 800 bucks. It did not run, but it did crank and the old gas smell overpowered the wonderful leather seats aroma. 3 minutes later I was 30 minutes from that garage that housed my dream, 4 hours later the 190SL was on the back of a car hauler coming home to me.
>
> A brilliant young mechanic friend of mine, who would much rather work on a Chevy, put carb kits into those Solex and I was up and running.
>
> I had been traveling in the sports car crowd there in town for a few years, but my old MGA relegated me to a status level toward the bottom rungs behind the Lotus, Porsche and the totally awesome Austin Healey 3000. But with this 190SL, faded paint and all, I moved from last to first!
>
> To make a good long story short, I was rounding town square one day in my SL. I spotted the Healey and it's driver (along with his snooty friends) leaned against his car. It was their first sight of my SL and I watched their faces fall as they knew I now had the upper rungs of that ladder now.
>
> Just to make my entrance clear, I dropped the SL down from 2nd to 1st, gunned that engine and popped the clutch, right in front of them.
>
> The rear torsion bars and springs immediately were pulled from the rusted underbelly of my SL and jammed into the road. I could not pull forward and I was directly in front of the people I most wanted to one up. My only move was to back my 190 SL home, spring mounts dragging along as I went.
>
> A few months later I was able to sell the SL to a kid out of Atlanta for about what I had in it. The entire underside of the car was a total rust out.
>
> But, my story lives in infamy to this day in that little town, my only escape from "Pride Commeth Before a Fall" was to move away. I did.
>
> Chip
> Houston
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Power Service Cetane Boost

 


Most here know our '82 240D has well over 300,000 hard miles and low compression in one cylinder , this causes a miss @ idle so it shakes and chugs a fair bit .

Recently I ran out of Power Service's wonderful Cetane Boost for two tankfuls and the chugging and shaking was bothersome , as well as the fuel economy dropped to the low 20's .

After filling it up and adding 3 Oz. of Cetane Boost , it now runs perfectly smooth again , it's smply amazing how much this stuff helps .

@ only 3 Oz. per fillup , remembering I only fil it when the gauge reaches below the 1/4 mark , I feel this is veru co$t effective as it also raises up the fuel mileage .

Yry it , I think you'll like it .

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Vacuum connected to heater blower motor 240D?

 

1982 240D
I thought the vacuum wasn't mixed up with the heating & a/c system on this car but today I busted a side nipple off the main vacuum tube from the vac pump to the brake booster (aka brake booster vacuum tube). The usual stuff happened...door locks, engine shutoff, but also, the heater blower motor would not work. I thought the vacuum was a separate system in the 240D. The 240D has cables to operate everything in the heater and a/c system, doesn't it? Anyhoo, when I replaced the vacuum tube, the blower motor started working again no problem. So my question is, how does a vacuum outage cause the heater blower motor to not work?

Jim

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.

 

I've had autolite come apart and leave the shell in the hole.Then had to use a easy out to remove shell.


--- On Fri, 10/12/12, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 9:35 AM

 
My opinion only - it is like the old spark plug wars between Champion, Autolite, A/C and NGK.  They all worked, but everyone had a war story as to why one was better than another. All I know is that we bought them at the wholesale level for 15 cents, sold them to favored mechanics for 30 cents, sold them to run of the mill mechanics for 60 cents, and to the walk in dummies for $1.25. 

Most glow plugs are now made out of country (think Croatia, China, etc), and the PR is about the same. How hard is it to run some electricity to the tip, get it hot enough to heat the diesel, and go "poof" - not exactly rocket science.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Lost but making good time. <aldridgetony97@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.

 
The local FLAPS has Bosch glow plugs in stock - are they good?
The next nearest FLAPS is 100 miles away. So if my fuel work does not help, I can install them before swmbo leaves for a trip on Sunday.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@...> wrote:
>
> She's getting a bit hard to start when it is below freezing (the car that is) so- Cleaned the fuel strainer that I put on a few days after we bought the car, and put in a new secondary filter, did not have one of those silly little primary filters so left it as was. The fuel in the strainer bowl, was kind of dark, so we got 'er all cleaned up.
> If that doesnt get her cranked up in the morning, I guess we will either go to Mazatlan or put in new glow plugs or both.
> Tony
>



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.

 

My opinion only - it is like the old spark plug wars between Champion, Autolite, A/C and NGK.  They all worked, but everyone had a war story as to why one was better than another. All I know is that we bought them at the wholesale level for 15 cents, sold them to favored mechanics for 30 cents, sold them to run of the mill mechanics for 60 cents, and to the walk in dummies for $1.25. 

Most glow plugs are now made out of country (think Croatia, China, etc), and the PR is about the same. How hard is it to run some electricity to the tip, get it hot enough to heat the diesel, and go "poof" - not exactly rocket science.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Lost but making good time. <aldridgetony97@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Black fuel.

 
The local FLAPS has Bosch glow plugs in stock - are they good?
The next nearest FLAPS is 100 miles away. So if my fuel work does not help, I can install them before swmbo leaves for a trip on Sunday.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@...> wrote:
>
> She's getting a bit hard to start when it is below freezing (the car that is) so- Cleaned the fuel strainer that I put on a few days after we bought the car, and put in a new secondary filter, did not have one of those silly little primary filters so left it as was. The fuel in the strainer bowl, was kind of dark, so we got 'er all cleaned up.
> If that doesnt get her cranked up in the morning, I guess we will either go to Mazatlan or put in new glow plugs or both.
> Tony
>



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