Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint Stories

 

I painted the hood of my white jeep with Wal-Ma*ts $1 per can enamel. The color matched perfectly after several coats and the finish was similar to a factory shine as I wet sanded it with 1000 grit followed by 2K grit, then polishing compound. The hood outlasted the rest of the truck; the box frame rusted out, but it looked  good at the boneyard several years later.
 
This page may have been referenced in this forum before; I chose not to use rustoleum because when I've used it, it seemed to remain tacky for a long time.


--- On Sat, 1/22/11, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint Stories
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 5:27 PM



I saw a fellow in the neighborhood paint his 1980's Pontiac using spray cans - in his driveway. It was a magnificent job. He stripped it, sanded it, primed it, did all the things a pro would do.  Anyway, I was really impressed - I had never seen anyone do what he did before and come away with a really great looking car - using spray paint cans.
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Alan Boucher <alstheone@verizon.net>
If you're an artist you can do it with spray cans.  I sold a VW bus to a woman who repainted it with spray cans and a hardware store owner I know used his private stock to repaint his Fiat based Scorpion.  Actually the current spray cans are much better at providing an even spray than some of the earlier products.  The acid test for any paint job is does it look better when you are done than when you started.




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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint Stories

 

I saw a fellow in the neighborhood paint his 1980's Pontiac using spray cans - in his driveway. It was a magnificent job. He stripped it, sanded it, primed it, did all the things a pro would do.  Anyway, I was really impressed - I had never seen anyone do what he did before and come away with a really great looking car - using spray paint cans.
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Alan Boucher <alstheone@verizon.net>
If you're an artist you can do it with spray cans.  I sold a VW bus to a woman who repainted it with spray cans and a hardware store owner I know used his private stock to repaint his Fiat based Scorpion.  Actually the current spray cans are much better at providing an even spray than some of the earlier products.  The acid test for any paint job is does it look better when you are done than when you started.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint Stories

 

On 1/22/2011 10:11 AM, Nate wrote:

 


When I lived in Guatemala , the shop I worked at , used a hand bug sprayer often then hand rubbed out the paint to make it shine and remove the bugs that were always attracted to the wet paint.....

For the better $ jobs , they had a SEARS 1/10 HP compressor connected directly to the paint gun , no tank so if you watched them spraying , each stroke of the compressor made the gun spray a bit more , the final result was....... well .

Lots and lots of labor went into making the finished re sprays look O.K. from a KM or two away .

Good old ' Uncle Earl Schieb ' ~ " In by 8 , out by 5 ! $29.95 ! " . I remember his commercials and weird $29.95 colors , it cost extra to get any color you'd actually want =8-) .

The good thing was : he used Acrylic Enamel and once it hardened , you could cut and buff it to a mirror shine , we did so on many 5 year old chalky re - sprayed junkers then fixed them up to run well and made a handy profit on every one .

The devil really in in the details , the paint job details being removing the mouldings , door handles , bumpers etc. , etc. .

-Nate
Nate R. wrote:
>
> I'll paint your car for $29.95.I remember.They looked like some cars were painted with a brush.
>
>

If you're an artist you can do it with spray cans.  I sold a VW bus to a woman who repainted it with spray cans and a hardware store owner I know used his private stock to repaint his Fiat based Scorpion.  Actually the current spray cans are much better at providing an even spray than some of the earlier products.  The acid test for any paint job is does it look better when you are done than when you started.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Digest Number 4684

 

The Baggins seems to be otherwise occupied - may the Power be with you.

2011/1/22 BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com>


Where's Frodo when you need him?
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 10:44:14 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Digest Number 4684

 

I noticed last night when I walked behind my idling 77 240D that burning embers
were emanating from the tail pipe. I looked in and saw a glowing circle of
material. I was thinking that the deadening material was somehow sluffing off
or I need a chimney sweep as I burn veg oil. It was gone when I got home an
hour or so later. Went 65 mph the whole way. Lawrence Rhodes......





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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Digest Number 4684

 

Where's Frodo when you need him?
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 22, 2011 10:44:14 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Digest Number 4684

 

I noticed last night when I walked behind my idling 77 240D that burning embers
were emanating from the tail pipe. I looked in and saw a glowing circle of
material. I was thinking that the deadening material was somehow sluffing off
or I need a chimney sweep as I burn veg oil. It was gone when I got home an
hour or so later. Went 65 mph the whole way. Lawrence Rhodes......


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Digest Number 4684

 

This would worry me some. OK it's normal for a sooty coating of the inner walls of the exhaust pipes but a circular and visible build up.........can you remember where the glowing circle was, was it at joint, a weld or any restriction of the pipe that would attract build up? How far in was the build up?  It would have to be very hot to 'sluff' off in sparks.

I am trying to figure out if/how wvo could effect this but I really don't think it can. It will be interesting to see other responses you may get from this list.

Thanks for posting.

2011/1/22 Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>
I noticed last night when I walked behind my idling 77 240D that burning embers
were emanating from the tail pipe.  I looked in and saw a glowing circle of
material.  I was thinking that the deadening material was somehow sluffing off
or I need a chimney sweep as I burn veg oil.  It was gone when I got home an
hour or so later.  Went 65 mph the whole way.  Lawrence Rhodes......


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Digest Number 4684

 

I noticed last night when I walked behind my idling 77 240D that burning embers
were emanating from the tail pipe. I looked in and saw a glowing circle of
material. I was thinking that the deadening material was somehow sluffing off
or I need a chimney sweep as I burn veg oil. It was gone when I got home an
hour or so later. Went 65 mph the whole way. Lawrence Rhodes......

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint Stories

 


When I lived in Guatemala , the shop I worked at , used a hand bug sprayer often then hand rubbed out the paint to make it shine and remove the bugs that were always attracted to the wet paint.....

For the better $ jobs , they had a SEARS 1/10 HP compressor connected directly to the paint gun , no tank so if you watched them spraying , each stroke of the compressor made the gun spray a bit more , the final result was....... well .

Lots and lots of labor went into making the finished re sprays look O.K. from a KM or two away .

Good old ' Uncle Earl Schieb ' ~ " In by 8 , out by 5 ! $29.95 ! " . I remember his commercials and weird $29.95 colors , it cost extra to get any color you'd actually want =8-) .

The good thing was : he used Acrylic Enamel and once it hardened , you could cut and buff it to a mirror shine , we did so on many 5 year old chalky re - sprayed junkers then fixed them up to run well and made a handy profit on every one .

The devil really in in the details , the paint job details being removing the mouldings , door handles , bumpers etc. , etc. .

-Nate
Nate R. wrote:
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> I'll paint your car for $29.95.I remember.They looked like some cars were painted with a brush.
>
>

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint able to stand up to 500 degrees

 

I'll paint your car for $29.95.I remember.They looked like some cars were painted with a brush.

--- On Sat, 1/22/11, bgiovan <bgiovan@cavtel.net> wrote:

From: bgiovan <bgiovan@cavtel.net>
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint able to stand up to 500 degrees
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 7:36 AM

 

I'm going to have to do one this summer.  The DPO used some fairly heavy grit sandpaper on the 300SD presumably to deal with flaking clearcoat.  A Scheib is in my new future.  But plan to do most of the prep myself.

 

Ben near Detroit

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of BStromsoe
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:46 PM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint able to stand up to 500 degrees

 

 

Youse guys are getting me ansy to paint.

 

brian from la verne , ca

 

 

From: Alan Boucher <alstheone@verizon.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 7:21:22 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint able to stand up to 500 degrees

 

On 1/21/2011 9:14 PM, Mark in Lakewood CO wrote:

 

In 1985,  I completely tore down to nuts and bolts a 1966 Plymouth Sport Fury convertible, and shot it with Sherwin Williams Sunfire, a two-component, single-stage urethane.  The paint still looks great.  Two years later, I used the same product on a 1973 SAAB Sonett III, and that paint still looks good, too.  Then, I did a number of cars using PPG Deltron/Delthane, a two-component, two-stage urethane.  I've decided I really don't like it, especially when compared to the way the Sunfire has held up over the many years.  I've done a few DuPont Centauri jobs, but, I don't much care for DuPont products, either.  (I'll admit at least some of my bias is because of DuPont's General Motors connections as a shareholder and supplier.  Which is really rather silly on my part....)

I agree with Alan, that shooting the color is really the least of any body/paint job.  At least 80% of any paint job is repairing dents and rust, shooting primers and sealers, and sanding, sanding, sanding....  That's where all the labor and associated costs come in, so, I'll second his suggestion to do all the dirty, uncelebrated prep-work, and find someone with a good gun and facility to shoot colors.  (Which, unfortunately, is also the funnest and most rewarding part of the job.)

Mark in Lakewood , CO
1979 300SD (Deperately crying out for a new paint job....)

To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
From: tccservice111@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:59:22 +0000
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint able to stand up to 500 degrees

 

I say 10 years nowing it may last 5.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Nate Rector <tccservice111@...> wrote:
>
>
>  Hey All.
>  
>  Getting mixed info.I want a 10 year paint,with no lifting peeling.The minuim coats please.
>  I'm tring to dothis on $600 max including compressor used?,paint gun,tape,ect..
>

I've also used Sunfire in the past and found that it produced a super gloss.  I only suggested DuPont because they seem to be universal.  The list of paint manufacturers is growing by the day, but availability in any area is usually limited by the choices of the local paint suppliers.  There are several competitive lower price urethanes and epoxies available, but I don't have enough experience with the different brands to suggest one.  In general, it's best to stick to one brand of paint from primers to top coat, but  my local supplier usually suggests more economical choices and he hasn't led me astray yet.  The luckiest thing to find is a shop with someone who has had years of experience and yet is knowledgeable in the newer products.  My feeling about DuPont is that their products are good but not  better than most of the competitive products and their prices are significantly higher than most of the competition.

 


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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint able to stand up to 500 degrees

 

I’m going to have to do one this summer.  The DPO used some fairly heavy grit sandpaper on the 300SD presumably to deal with flaking clearcoat.  A Scheib is in my new future.  But plan to do most of the prep myself.

 

Ben near Detroit

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BStromsoe
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:46 PM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint able to stand up to 500 degrees

 

 

Youse guys are getting me ansy to paint.

 

brian from la verne, ca

 

 

From: Alan Boucher <alstheone@verizon.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 7:21:22 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint able to stand up to 500 degrees

 

On 1/21/2011 9:14 PM, Mark in Lakewood CO wrote:

 

In 1985,  I completely tore down to nuts and bolts a 1966 Plymouth Sport Fury convertible, and shot it with Sherwin Williams Sunfire, a two-component, single-stage urethane.  The paint still looks great.  Two years later, I used the same product on a 1973 SAAB Sonett III, and that paint still looks good, too.  Then, I did a number of cars using PPG Deltron/Delthane, a two-component, two-stage urethane.  I've decided I really don't like it, especially when compared to the way the Sunfire has held up over the many years.  I've done a few DuPont Centauri jobs, but, I don't much care for DuPont products, either.  (I'll admit at least some of my bias is because of DuPont's General Motors connections as a shareholder and supplier.  Which is really rather silly on my part....)

I agree with Alan, that shooting the color is really the least of any body/paint job.  At least 80% of any paint job is repairing dents and rust, shooting primers and sealers, and sanding, sanding, sanding....  That's where all the labor and associated costs come in, so, I'll second his suggestion to do all the dirty, uncelebrated prep-work, and find someone with a good gun and facility to shoot colors.  (Which, unfortunately, is also the funnest and most rewarding part of the job.)

Mark in Lakewood, CO
1979 300SD (Deperately crying out for a new paint job....)

To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
From: tccservice111@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:59:22 +0000
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Paint able to stand up to 500 degrees

 

I say 10 years nowing it may last 5.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Nate Rector <tccservice111@...> wrote:
>
>
>  Hey All.
>  
>  Getting mixed info.I want a 10 year paint,with no lifting peeling.The minuim coats please.
>  I'm tring to dothis on $600 max including compressor used?,paint gun,tape,ect..
>

I've also used Sunfire in the past and found that it produced a super gloss.  I only suggested DuPont because they seem to be universal.  The list of paint manufacturers is growing by the day, but availability in any area is usually limited by the choices of the local paint suppliers.  There are several competitive lower price urethanes and epoxies available, but I don't have enough experience with the different brands to suggest one.  In general, it's best to stick to one brand of paint from primers to top coat, but  my local supplier usually suggests more economical choices and he hasn't led me astray yet.  The luckiest thing to find is a shop with someone who has had years of experience and yet is knowledgeable in the newer products.  My feeling about DuPont is that their products are good but not  better than most of the competitive products and their prices are significantly higher than most of the competition.

 

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[diesel_mercedes] Max Age WVO - WAS Re: [CARS-ETC] What's up with U.S. gasoline prices?

 

Filter element is $7 (a third of a cent per mile). If it lasted longer than 2000 miles I'd probably change it anyway because I'd figure it had a hole in it. You might get every particulate out of WVO today, but tomorrow it will have regenerated more particulates just by being in contact with air, esp if heated.

Jim

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, MAGCONSULTING <magconsulting2@...> wrote:
>
> I don't see a centrifuge as a hassle. Fill a 55 gal drum, (with a small cent mounted on the lid) flip a switch and go watch a movie. Rule of thumb is a cars oil filter is about 20 microns. Oil filtered through a cent is about 1/2 microns. How about that 5 micron filter lasting 20,000 miles? Cleaner the oil = better flow, better fogging at injectors, less maintainance, better performance, etc., etc., etc., But like Henry said, if someones happy with their process, Great.
>  
> Mike
>

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