[diesel_mercedes] Re: Gas pedal Linkage

 

Do they get slippery?

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> I grease my balls
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> --- On Mon, 10/15/12, Nate <vwnate1@...> wrote:
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> From: Nate <vwnate1@...>
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Gas pedal Linkage
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 15, 2012, 11:15 AM
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> There isn't a cable , it's all thin steel rods with ball joint ends , they need periodic lubrication , moreso if you live where they use salt on the roads or it rains a lot .
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> Ma 'Benz says to use ATF , I use Aerosol Chain Lube , it comes with a nifty red plastic snorkel making it easier to squirt into the ball joints as you're operating the throttle with your other hand .
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> On the firewall is a plastic bushing thing that must not have *any* play , it is made to rotate but as it ages it often lifts up a bit when the throttle is depressed , this means you need another one , new or good used , I've seen them made from chunks of scrap plastic and so on , IMO the correct part works best because it's designed to pivot and allow the engine's normal movement .
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> There's always plenty of new new ones on junked Mercedes .
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> Get all the rod balls well lubed up before touching , repairing or adjusting anything else .
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> Be aware that if you attempt to ajust the rods , you'll prolly screw up the tranny shfting badly as it's all connected to - gether .
>
> -Nate
> Chris Asked :
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> > I have a 75 240D that sits a lot - after sitting 6+ mos, the gas pedal is difficult to push.  Even if I squash it really hard, it seems to act like I'm barely pressing on it.  I thought that maybe it would be the accelerator cable & I'd have to replace it(?) but I'm not finding it anywhere online & now I'm wondering if it has a different way to move the throttle linkage.
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> > Is there a cable?  I see it coming through the firewall but I sprayed it with PB but it didn't make a difference.  I can only get the car up to about 60 mph & if I'm going uphill it won't even do that.  This is probably a very simple fix to some in this group but I thought turning to the wisdom here would be a good start for me.
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> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> > 1975 240D
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Throttle Rod Ball Joint Service

 

And you can pick up all kinds of linkage in the PAP's for that magic moment when you destroy yours. I always keep and extra set of balls hanging around.  I don't use WD40 for much but I do use it to "degrease" some things before I remove them and regrease them.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:23 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Throttle Rod Ball Joint Service

 

As the balls are very easy to snap off , I highly recoment lubing them first , then using the wide flat blade screwdriver to gently work them off for periodic cleaning of the accumulated old rock hard grease , dust and road munge....

If the rod resists popping off the ball , lightly pry the rod away from the ball whilst slolwly working the throttle , as the pivot moves , the rod will pop off and not break nor damage the ball .

-Nate
Nate R. wrote:
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> with a flat screwdriver carefully pop each linkage one by one and add a dab of grease on the ball.
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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Gas pedal Linkage Lube

 

I will buy some tomorrow; good advice. Nates rule.  Bill in Corvallis

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:27 AM
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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Gas pedal Linkage Lube

 

Me too :

Aerosol Chain Lube is thinned grease in a volatile carrying agent , a short while after you spray it on , the carrying agent evaporates leaving behind grease....

I still pop off the rod ends and clean them before adding grease once or twice a year , the Foo-Foo lube is a bi monthly thing .

-The *other* Nate

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Gas pedal Linkage

 

Awesome - I'll pick up some Aerosol Chain Lube & try that tonight!

I figured it's something simple for a lot of people in this forum but it would have taken me A LOT longer to figure this out myself than simply asking.

Thanks again for the help!
Chris

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 12:15 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Gas pedal Linkage

 

There isn't a cable , it's all thin steel rods with ball joint ends , they need periodic lubrication , moreso if you live where they use salt on the roads or it rains a lot .

Ma 'Benz says to use ATF , I use Aerosol Chain Lube , it comes with a nifty red plastic snorkel making it easier to squirt into the ball joints as you're operating the throttle with your other hand .

On the firewall is a plastic bushing thing that must not have *any* play , it is made to rotate but as it ages it often lifts up a bit when the throttle is depressed , this means you need another one , new or good used , I've seen them made from chunks of scrap plastic and so on , IMO the correct part works best because it's designed to pivot and allow the engine's normal movement .

There's always plenty of new new ones on junked Mercedes .

Get all the rod balls well lubed up before touching , repairing or adjusting anything else .

Be aware that if you attempt to ajust the rods , you'll prolly screw up the tranny shfting badly as it's all connected to - gether .

-Nate
Chris Asked :
>
> I have a 75 240D that sits a lot - after sitting 6+ mos, the gas pedal is difficult to push.  Even if I squash it really hard, it seems to act like I'm barely pressing on it.  I thought that maybe it would be the accelerator cable & I'd have to replace it(?) but I'm not finding it anywhere online & now I'm wondering if it has a different way to move the throttle linkage.
>
> Is there a cable?  I see it coming through the firewall but I sprayed it with PB but it didn't make a difference.  I can only get the car up to about 60 mph & if I'm going uphill it won't even do that.  This is probably a very simple fix to some in this group but I thought turning to the wisdom here would be a good start for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 1975 240D
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Gas pedal Linkage Lube

 


Me too :

Aerosol Chain Lube is thinned grease in a volitile carrying agent , a short while after you spray it on , the carrying agent evaporates leaving behind grease....

I still pop off the rod ends and clean them before adding grease once or twice a year , the Foo-Foo lube is a bi monthly thing .

-The *other* Nate
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Throttle Rod Ball Joint Service

 


As the balls are very easy to snap off , I highly recoment lubing them first , then using the wide flat blade screwdriver to gently work them off for periodic cleaning of the accumulated old rock hard grease , dust and road munge....

If the rod resists popping off the ball , lightly pry the rod away from the ball whilst slolwly working the throttle , as the pivot moves , the rod will pop off and not break nor damage the ball .

-Nate
Nate R. wrote:
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> with a flat screwdriver carefully pop each linkage one by one and add a dab of grease on the ball.
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Gas pedal Linkage

 

I grease my balls


--- On Mon, 10/15/12, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Gas pedal Linkage
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 15, 2012, 11:15 AM

 

There isn't a cable , it's all thin steel rods with ball joint ends , they need periodic lubrication , moreso if you live where they use salt on the roads or it rains a lot .

Ma 'Benz says to use ATF , I use Aerosol Chain Lube , it comes with a nifty red plastic snorkel making it easier to squirt into the ball joints as you're operating the throttle with your other hand .

On the firewall is a plastic bushing thing that must not have *any* play , it is made to rotate but as it ages it often lifts up a bit when the throttle is depressed , this means you need another one , new or good used , I've seen them made from chunks of scrap plastic and so on , IMO the correct part works best because it's designed to pivot and allow the engine's normal movement .

There's always plenty of new new ones on junked Mercedes .

Get all the rod balls well lubed up before touching , repairing or adjusting anything else .

Be aware that if you attempt to ajust the rods , you'll prolly screw up the tranny shfting badly as it's all connected to - gether .

-Nate
Chris Asked :
>
> I have a 75 240D that sits a lot - after sitting 6+ mos, the gas pedal is difficult to push.  Even if I squash it really hard, it seems to act like I'm barely pressing on it.  I thought that maybe it would be the accelerator cable & I'd have to replace it(?) but I'm not finding it anywhere online & now I'm wondering if it has a different way to move the throttle linkage.
>
> Is there a cable?  I see it coming through the firewall but I sprayed it with PB but it didn't make a difference.  I can only get the car up to about 60 mph & if I'm going uphill it won't even do that.  This is probably a very simple fix to some in this group but I thought turning to the wisdom here would be a good start for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 1975 240D
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Lubricants

 


WD-40 is a _SOLVENT_ , not a lubricant so after you use it and everything is nice and loosey-goosey , it evaporates , leaving dry joints that rapidly wear and bind again .

This is why it ruins key locks shortly after making them work so smoothly .

WD-0 is crap and should be discarded , use lubricants to lubricate things .

That's a nice site Bill , I couldn't get the page for the air cleaner to open , I'd like to purchase one .

-Nate
Bill wrote:
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> This is a picture of the air control for a 1961 diesel. Air flow controls
> fuel coming in = zoom zoom. You're should be similar.
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> http://www.niemoeller.de/w121-mercedes-190D-ponton-en/B110-070701.html
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> I would squirt WD-40 on every joint or metal-to-metal contact you see there.
> Make sure a dead mouse has not found its way into the linkage preventing it
> from moving. Bill in Oregon
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Gas pedal Linkage

 


There isn't a cable , it's all thin steel rods with ball joint ends , they need periodic lubrication , moreso if you live where they use salt on the roads or it rains a lot .

Ma 'Benz says to use ATF , I use Aerosol Chain Lube , it comes with a nifty red plastic snorkel making it easier to squirt into the ball joints as you're operating the throttle with your other hand .

On the firewall is a plastic bushing thing that must not have *any* play , it is made to rotate but as it ages it often lifts up a bit when the throttle is depressed , this means you need another one , new or good used , I've seen them made from chunks of scrap plastic and so on , IMO the correct part works best because it's designed to pivot and allow the engine's normal movement .

There's always plenty of new new ones on junked Mercedes .

Get all the rod balls well lubed up before touching , repairing or adjusting anything else .

Be aware that if you attempt to ajust the rods , you'll prolly screw up the tranny shfting badly as it's all connected to - gether .

-Nate
Chris Asked :
>
> I have a 75 240D that sits a lot - after sitting 6+ mos, the gas pedal is difficult to push.  Even if I squash it really hard, it seems to act like I'm barely pressing on it.  I thought that maybe it would be the accelerator cable & I'd have to replace it(?) but I'm not finding it anywhere online & now I'm wondering if it has a different way to move the throttle linkage.
>
> Is there a cable?  I see it coming through the firewall but I sprayed it with PB but it didn't make a difference.  I can only get the car up to about 60 mph & if I'm going uphill it won't even do that.  This is probably a very simple fix to some in this group but I thought turning to the wisdom here would be a good start for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 1975 240D
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Gas pedal difficult to push -

 

one quick test. take the pedal off and see if the rubber on the bottom is cracked or broken. hard to push pedal was how I discovered the bottom part that hooks onto the lever was broken. be sure to save the plastic squeeze clip that holds the bottom of the pedal to the floor.
Chuck

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Chris <chrbod@...> wrote:
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> I have a 75 240D that sits a lot - after sitting 6+ mos, the gas pedal is difficult to push.  Even if I squash it really hard, it seems to act like I'm barely pressing on it.  I thought that maybe it would be the accelerator cable & I'd have to replace it(?) but I'm not finding it anywhere online & now I'm wondering if it has a different way to move the throttle linkage.
>
> Is there a cable?  I see it coming through the firewall but I sprayed it with PB but it didn't make a difference.  I can only get the car up to about 60 mph & if I'm going uphill it won't even do that.  This is probably a very simple fix to some in this group but I thought turning to the wisdom here would be a good start for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 1975 240D
>

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Gas pedal difficult to push -

 

with a flat screwdriver carefully pop each linkage one by one and add a dab of grease on the ball.

--- On Mon, 10/15/12, corvallis@peoplepc.com <corvallis@peoplepc.com> wrote:

From: corvallis@peoplepc.com <corvallis@peoplepc.com>
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Gas pedal difficult to push -
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 15, 2012, 7:42 AM

 

This is a picture of the air control for a 1961 diesel. Air flow controls fuel coming in = zoom zoom. You're should be similar.

http://www.niemoeller.de/w121-mercedes-190D-ponton-en/B110-070701.html

I would squirt WD-40 on every joint or metal-to-metal contact you see there.  Make sure a dead mouse has not found its way into the linkage preventing it from moving.  Bill in Oregon

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:57 PM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Gas pedal difficult to push -

 

I have a 75 240D that sits a lot - after sitting 6+ mos, the gas pedal is difficult to push.  Even if I squash it really hard, it seems to act like I'm barely pressing on it.  I thought that maybe it would be the accelerator cable & I'd have to replace it(?) but I'm not finding it anywhere online & now I'm wondering if it has a different way to move the throttle linkage.

 

Is there a cable?  I see it coming through the firewall but I sprayed it with PB but it didn't make a difference.  I can only get the car up to about 60 mph & if I'm going uphill it won't even do that.  This is probably a very simple fix to some in this group but I thought turning to the wisdom here would be a good start for me.

 

Thanks,

Chris

1975 240D

 

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Gas pedal difficult to push -

 

This is a picture of the air control for a 1961 diesel. Air flow controls fuel coming in = zoom zoom. You’re should be similar.

http://www.niemoeller.de/w121-mercedes-190D-ponton-en/B110-070701.html

I would squirt WD-40 on every joint or metal-to-metal contact you see there.  Make sure a dead mouse has not found its way into the linkage preventing it from moving.  Bill in Oregon

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:57 PM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Gas pedal difficult to push -

 

I have a 75 240D that sits a lot - after sitting 6+ mos, the gas pedal is difficult to push.  Even if I squash it really hard, it seems to act like I'm barely pressing on it.  I thought that maybe it would be the accelerator cable & I'd have to replace it(?) but I'm not finding it anywhere online & now I'm wondering if it has a different way to move the throttle linkage.

 

Is there a cable?  I see it coming through the firewall but I sprayed it with PB but it didn't make a difference.  I can only get the car up to about 60 mph & if I'm going uphill it won't even do that.  This is probably a very simple fix to some in this group but I thought turning to the wisdom here would be a good start for me.

 

Thanks,

Chris

1975 240D

 

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