Re: [diesel_mercedes] New Tires for 83 300 CD

 

Tire discussions have abounded in this group over the years. My 2 cents = unless you are driving abnormally (climbing mtns, off roading, on the autobahn daily), go with the mfg recommended size and quality. They paid those German Benz engineers well to come up with optimum round town sizes. This from a 70 year old who always ran odd sizes on other vehicles for various reasons.
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: carter061832 <carter061832@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 4:49:14 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] New Tires for 83 300 CD

 

I would like to hear recommendations for new tires for my car. i wanted tires with the following size 205 70 14 , but the selection is very limited. I am considering the Michelin hydro edge, yes they pricey and only available in 195 70 14.

thanks

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] New Tires for 83 300 CD

 

That is the tire I have fitted to my 300SD, but in 195 70(?) 15. I recommend them. Wet and dry traction are better than average, not much better than anything else in snow, ice and mud.  90K tread wear guarantee, had mine for going on three years, still no sign of wear. 

bk

--- On Tue, 4/26/11, carter061832 <carter061832@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: carter061832 <carter061832@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] New Tires for 83 300 CD
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 4:49 PM

 

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 I am considering the Michelin hydro edge, yes they pricey and only available in 195 70 14.

thanks

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: yahoo bugger-all

 

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--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
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> It's still screwing me up on nearly every message .
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> No , I'm not the only one affected here , I'm hearing this complaint all over yahoo groups .
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> So , they can be sorry , not me .
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> -Nate
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[diesel_mercedes] New Tires for 83 300 CD

 

I would like to hear recommendations for new tires for my car. i wanted tires with the following size 205 70 14 , but the selection is very limited. I am considering the Michelin hydro edge, yes they pricey and only available in 195 70 14.

thanks

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Finally!

 

Fun, isn't it, Ben!! You read about my exploits dropping the rear end, axles wheel bearings etc. I've done some work on 4 wheel vehicles but mostly simple stuff...never as involved as I've gotten into with the 300D. I've done a lot of work on 2 wheelers so the basic skill set is there & with a FSM, some help from experienced friends on sites like this & a little common sense it's amazing what we can do! Good luck with your project.
Blaise

From: bgiovan <bgiovan@cavtel.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 10:21:53 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Finally!

 

Jeez Louise! Never done this in my life I must say. Any last words for a rookie about to rebuild the entire upper half of a OM617 with nothing but a FSM and a dream?
Ben near Detroit

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help

 

I just typed in Mercedes 1983 300d w123 and got tons of hits, including this Wickepedia site which is very useful
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123

If you have a different model or year, use your info.
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Barry Edwards <duckn8r@me.com>
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 10:34:46 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help

 

I have tried that and have not gotten any thing what would I type in to find the right data base 

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 26, 2011, at 11:31 AM, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

It has been a long time - but your VIN number has a lot of info for you (where and when it was built, what it is, etc). There are databases available too. And, try Wickepedia. Search your model and year and you will find a lot of information. Get the Haynes manual too. And use Google a lot. Many ways to find the information you are after.
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Barry Edwards <duckn8r@me.com>
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 7:19:42 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help

 

Is there anywhere I can look up the block numbers to see what was put in this car in has a four speed tranny that I figure is stock. From what I have found it should be a three speed auto,not a four speed. I found this set of numbers,(617 912 12 077612) dose this tell me if it has any thing or is it just the number of the one build that day back in 1979.

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On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:19 AM, Mark in Lakewood CO <beeser750@q.com> wrote:

 

I earlier wrote on this topic that a one-time poster here, and acknowledged MB diesel guru, known as "Stretch", installed a turbo on a four-cylinder 240D.  Indeed, one of the things he did was to machine the holes in the block to drop in the piston cooler jets.  He did that because none of the four-cylinder cars ever had a turbo, and so neither the piston coolers, and he wanted to prove a 240D could be turbocharged without sacrificing reliability, if done correctly.  I doubt he would ever have considered installing piston cooler jets into a normally aspirated five-cylinder block in order to turbo it; there're just too many turbo-engines out there for cheap that are already properly set up.

But, to answer your question:  Yes, the normally aspirated and turbo blocks have the same crankshaft journals and oiling passages, but for the piston cooling jet holes.  In fact, the journals are even shared with the 240D....

So, what's wrong with this parts engine?

Mark in Lakewood, CO

To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
From: duckn8r@me.com
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:18:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Doing some R&D need your help

The 300D engine I have would it have the same oil journals board in it as the turbo engine I have found good parts so far I have a great running engine just trying to see if I can work with what I got, or keep up the R&D I have found a parts engine I can get all the stuff I may need to turbo this running car, well good luck with your projects. Barry 

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] yahoo bugger-all

 

you had a virus for a long time.I see it in your group messages.


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From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] yahoo bugger-all
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:29 PM

 

It's still screwing me up on nearly every message .

No , I'm not the only one affected here , I'm hearing this complaint all over yahoo groups .

So , they can be sorry , not me .

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] yahoo bugger-all

 


It's still screwing me up on nearly every message .

No , I'm not the only one affected here , I'm hearing this complaint all over yahoo groups .

So , they can be sorry , not me .

-Nate

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Finally!

I've heard various things I "need" to do first in regards to cleaning
out the head bolt holes in the block (like getting the oil and crap out)
and I want to clean the pistons and block top as good as I can prior. I
was AMAZED how clean the block was. I could still read the numbers
painted on the passenger side, below the turbo. No oil anywhere.

Ben near Detroit

On 4/26/2011 4:25 PM, Nate wrote:
>
>
> ! YAY ! .
>
> I'm sure you'll do just fine Ben .
>
> Be _SURE_ to print out the cylinder head torque diagram and
> _FOLLOW_IT_ ! the order in which you tighten the bolts is critical .
>
> I , personally use an old racing trick on every engine : I snug up the
> bolts then I begin torquing them down in 5 # increments ~ yes this is
> time consuming *but* it draws the head to the block *perfectly*
> evenly.....
>
> I hope that putting a fresh head against old piston rings , doesn't
> wind you up with oil leaks from a pressureized crankcase ...
>
> Of course , you already have ALL the various sized O-Rings for the oil
> tube seals ? there's a bunch of that crap that leaks like the devil
> and is easy to change now with the manifolds off , not so much once
> it's buttoned up , just ask Tom .
>
> -Nate
> Ben wrote:
> >
> > Jeez Louise! I sent the head out over 2 months ago and finally, yes
> finally after waiting for parts (prechamber shims, intake and exhaust
> guides, etc., the machine shop finally returned to me a "perfect"
> head. Better be! I rebuilt the turbo myself but had the shop balance
> the turbo (at TN Nate's suggestion) so that's done. Got the rebuild
> kit for the vacuum pump from Peachparts; had the starter rebuilt while
> that whole side was open, putting a new water pump on, etc. Sent the
> radiator out for a once-over. Got all the sundry parts (yeah right) so
> reassembly to commence this coming Friday/Saturday. Until I see that
> missed a part (like rubber exhaust hangers, damn!).
> >
> > Never done this in my life I must say. Any last words for a rookie
> about to rebuild the entire upper half of a OM617 with nothing but a
> FSM and a dream?
> >
> > Thinking about prep before head is remounted, what should I be doing
> to get the block ready? Want to desparately flush the cooling system
> but sort of can't now with the head off, lest I get crap where I don't
> want it. Fire away ladies and germs.
> >
> > Ben near Detroit
> >
>
>


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! YAY ! .

I'm sure you'll do just fine Ben .

Be _SURE_ to print out the cylinder head torque diagram and _FOLLOW_IT_ ! the order in which you tighten the bolts is critical .

I , personally use an old racing trick on every engine : I snug up the bolts then I begin torquing them down in 5 # increments ~ yes this is time consuming *but* it draws the head to the block *perfectly* evenly.....

I hope that putting a fresh head against old piston rings , doesn't wind you up with oil leaks from a pressureized crankcase ...

Of course , you already have ALL the various sized O-Rings for the oil tube seals ? there's a bunch of that crap that leaks like the devil and is easy to change now with the manifolds off , not so much once it's buttoned up , just ask Tom .

-Nate
Ben wrote:
>
> Jeez Louise! I sent the head out over 2 months ago and finally, yes finally after waiting for parts (prechamber shims, intake and exhaust guides, etc., the machine shop finally returned to me a "perfect" head. Better be! I rebuilt the turbo myself but had the shop balance the turbo (at TN Nate's suggestion) so that's done. Got the rebuild kit for the vacuum pump from Peachparts; had the starter rebuilt while that whole side was open, putting a new water pump on, etc. Sent the radiator out for a once-over. Got all the sundry parts (yeah right) so reassembly to commence this coming Friday/Saturday. Until I see that missed a part (like rubber exhaust hangers, damn!).
>
> Never done this in my life I must say. Any last words for a rookie about to rebuild the entire upper half of a OM617 with nothing but a FSM and a dream?
>
> Thinking about prep before head is remounted, what should I be doing to get the block ready? Want to desparately flush the cooling system but sort of can't now with the head off, lest I get crap where I don't want it. Fire away ladies and germs.
>
> Ben near Detroit
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Bad Words

 


I can't .

Only if you alls respond to it , will the word keep popping up .

-Nate
(_STILL_ bedeviled by yahoo !)

Brian Wrote :

Nate, you may want to go back and delete your "subject" line as these posts do
live forever sort of.

brian from laverne

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: 84 300D

 


Hi Nick ;

If you have the receipts for the recent works and parts , the insurance co. is required to add that amount to the writeoff value...

BT , DT , they still junked my car but I kept it and rebuilt it anyways .

You can take it to a professional vehicle appraiser and spend a few $ to have it appraised , this should also include the recent expenses and will help leverage the ins. co to fix it .

I don't mind salvage titles but it can be difficult to get collision coverage on one , be aware .

-Nate
Nick wrote:
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> Wow,
>
> I am developing a love hate relationship with our car. We named it Double G (Golden Goose) because we have not had to stop at a gas station for 4 months (over 7K miles). She purrs like a kitten on WVO, Biogreasel and 100% biodiesel. Can not hardly tell the difference.
>
> The bad, someone rearended the car and was estimated as 4K in repair and the insurance company wants to give us $1600 dollars and total it. We paid 2300 and did 500 in repairs ect. We also have 3 issues I hope you guys can help with.
>
> 1. drivers window will not go up or down- just started last night
> 2. Cruise control will accelerate only if hold the lever up but will not do anything else. ( is there a light that tells if it is on)
> 3. A/C not blowing cold.
>
> do not really know where to start with these issues. Drivers window and cruise are probably the priority. A/C, my son may be able to dx when he gets into his A/C class in college.
>
> thanks, NICK
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Easter Sunday

 


FWIW ;

I was flushing the cylinder block with the thermostat housing removed , every time I hooked up my auxiliary water pump harness , that's when the foamy crud came roaring out of the opening ~ .

I've been trying to talk Tom into ordering up several hundred $'s worth of new hoses and seals etc. so we can do this once & for all , remembering all the not fun I had with my cars when I bought them .

I also collected yet another bunch of " Just So " original Mercedes hose clamps @ P-A-P and his car has almost all matching size & correct hose clamps on it again...

I too was thinking the used thermostat was bad & stuck open but since we didn't have a new special O-Ring , I didn't want to pry it loose from the housing...

We saved his old one and will use it when he gets a big boxfull of new parts...

-Nate
Tom wrote:
>
> As Nate mentioned, we went looking for a wagon door to fix the window in
> his 300TD. No Joy.
>
> Afterwards, just before the sun went down, Nate finished the flush job
> on my 300SD. It has been running for 3 weeks on fresh anti-freeze, after
> he did the citrus flush and distilled water reflush, getting out tons of
> junk. But in that three weeks, the anti-freeze has turned very dark and
> opaque, strongly suggesting that the flush had loosened stuff up but not gotten
> it all out.
>
> So, he drained it, and it came out full of mud. Pulled the radiator
> hoses off and flushed and back flushed the radiator, more mud and gunk. The
> flushed and back flushed the block, more gunk and while back flushing, a
> lot of foamy suds from the citrus residue.
>
> After a lot of just hose flushing, he filled it a few times with
> distilled water and I ran it up the hill and back. Finally, we refilled it with
> anti-freeze.
>
> During most of the operation, he kept the aux water pump running, to
> keep the heater core flushed as well.
>
> One of the problems he spotted last time was that the hose bib on the
> thermostat housing was corroded pretty badly. While walking the yard, we
> found a better one, with a good looking thermostat in place. He slapped
> that on after flushing the block.
>
> Now I have put 100 miles on since the flush and the temperature hasn't
> yet reached "80" on the guage. Mostly it hovers between the hash mark at
> "40" and the one just above that. I'm beginning to wonder if that 'new'
> thermostat never closes?
>
> I have to sa that all the gunk that came out the flush job occupied a
> huge volume. So I'm thinking that he flushed it up toy at least a 3.5
> liter engine. Maybe even a 4.2!
>
> After the flush, the odometer clocked over 348,800 miles. Still a lot
> of original parts still ticking away there.
>
> Today, while Nate was chillin with Shirley out in Fontuckey, I
> wandered through the yard at the intersection of the 110 and the 91 freeways. Not
> a single 300TD in the place. Several 126s and more recent sedans and
> convertibles, and one 116SD. But not one 123 in the whole yard!
>
> Tom
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Thrashing The Old 'Benz

 


! EEP ! .

-Nate
Ben wrote:
>
> Here is Nate and SWMBO heading off to Fontana:
> http://www.youtube.com/user/Waltonen91#p/a/u/2/NGHOzTYd0Fg
>
>
>
> Ben near Detroit
>
>

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