[diesel_mercedes] Improved Exhaust Hangers

 

 
Here ya go :
 
 
VASTLY Improved Exhaust Hangers
...number is : 107 492 00 44 and they're available at dealers as well as any aftermarket Mercedes Partshaus . BTW : these improved hangers fit pretty much ALL Mercedes (and ofther german cars using them) . They're easy to install too . -Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Old Fuel

 


Will it start & run now ? .

If so , dump in a quart of SeaFoam and start it up right away , let it run untill all 500 gallons are gone and it stalls from lack of fuel .

Once it starts , do not shut it off , let it run out .

Me , I'd drain and S-Can those 500 gallons now instead of allowing it into my engine and fuel system .

-Nate
AJ Asked :
> >
> > Did you at least throw some SeaFoam in the tank?? Anytime I've got something sitting (when I know ahead of time) I dump a can (or more) in-- and try to "run it in..." It keeps the gas, and I think it does help in getting them (gas and diesel) re-started.. :)
> >
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Injector Service

 


I've been replacing with Monark brand new injectors , some times when I take in my bag 'O Injectors for Pop Testing , I keep just the ones that work *perfectly* , enough to fill the engine I'm working on at that moment. as I give the repair man the rest of them , he does my pop testing for free .

Rebuilts are fine , *if* you can trust the rebuilder .

-Nate
Max wrote :
>
> Nate says: If they're mis - matched or have even one that doesn't spray right on spec. or
> drools , spits visible droplets instead of a super fine fog like mist , consider
> replacing them all .
> Do you mean re-place or rebuild? Max
>
> --
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Exhaust Hangers...seeking the RIGHT ones

 


There's an old post and I *think* a file with the good one pictured plus the Part # ~ just ask for exhaust hanger do - nuts for a 1979 450SL , it'll look different and you can't fold it in half due to the chain inside it . the part # begins with 107 .

Most Muffler shops will have them for under $10 each .

Yes , it is common for the rubber loop ones to break in a few months .

-Nate
Caitlin wrote :
>
> Hey all, yesterday I noticed that my 2 rubber exhaust donuts were both broken...having been replaced last November. So clearly I got the cheapies. Anyone know the p/n on the GOOD ones, or who has good deals on them etc etc?
>
> And...is it usual for the cheap ones to not even last a year? I don't drive often...but it's a hot dry climate out here...and the place I go to do sweat lodge is on a bumpy dirt road. Just curious.
>
> Thanks!
> Caitlin in Santa Fe
> 83 300SD
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Idle rough at traffic lights

 

Only if you spell the word you are searching for correctly!

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> This group averages 10-20 messages per day, and we are well over 10,000 posts nowadays. The subject line should define what the topic is all about. Assuming that people are commenting about (lets say) a "w123 thermostadt" then you can do a search on 10+ years worth of posts dealing with that subject matter. Same with any of the dozens of repetitive and common problems. Add to that the dozens of photo files and document files and you have a gold mine of useful information. If you are dealing only with current postings, you are missing 3/4's of the value of this site.
>
>  
> brian from laverne, ca
> Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
> 1983 w123 300d's
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Trish Dougherty <purrfectharmonyfarm@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Idle rough at traffic lights
>
>
>  
> Whine. Nate.
>
> And what I want to know is where are these people that complain about getting a wee bit off topic when there is a problem? 
>
> I never ever see any of the complainers giving any useful input.  Nor ask questions about their cars...do they run perfectly??? If so, I'd be impressed if I believed it!  I'm on here to learn from those that know more than I do and to help if I happen to know something useful.
>
> Digest is an easy way of getting the list messages and you'll only get a few a day rather than dozens, easy to scroll through to see if there is anything relevant, easy to hit delete and clean up the inbox.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Nate <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
>
> > 
> >
> >I counted three messages .
> >
> >If you're going to while , please be truthful .
> >
> >-Nate
> >barry wrote:
> >>
> >> Hay guys can you take your conversation privet so I don't get all 500 emails please?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Don't Be Afraid To Try

 

Barton is back - hooray.

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Barton Fiske Gmail <barton.fiske@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 2:06 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Don't Be Afraid To Try

Been a while since I've posted - hopefully this will give some hope to this community - either in my "success" at keeping one of these running, or in the schaudenfreude of knowing most of you have probably spent less than I have (so far)….

I'm probably nearing $10k over 3 yrs into my '84 300SD…but I've only done 1/10th of the repairs myself, so to some degree I have myself to blame for the price tag (I originally paid $800 for a rusty shell w/ good motor, and $800 for a nice shell with a seized motor and a $300 in transport costs from PA to MA - so I'd already spent $2K and could not (safely) drive either car).

Perhaps a third of the remaining cost has been "elective surgery". Had the bumpers and a few scratches and dings repaired, really nice, new, all season radials on 15" rims, had the vacuum controls gone through as much as could be to get heat in all the right places,  etc.

Additional (expensive and non-optional) repairs included a good portion of the front suspension including power steering replacement and brakes/rotors/pads/bearings all around after about 5K miles back on the road and finding out what was really worn and what was still serviceable.

Yes, there are some really nice 300SD's out there for half that price - but then I would have to start over on the cost meter fixing whatever inevitably needs fixing on that car, and in three years time, likely to be near the same amount (assuming I still don't do the repairs myself).

The most recent repair finally solved my distressing vibration on acceleration - turned out it was the center driveshaft support bearing. Symptom was a pretty nasty wobble down the centerline of the car when accelerating into all but final drive. In general, parts are still cheap - but labor is not, assuming you can find someone who still knows how to do the work and is actually willing to. Replacing that bearing and getting things right took a lot more labor than the parts total would suggest. But it now accelerates smoothly and I don't get chills up my spine wondering if the driveshaft is about to snap. My honest hope right now is that the major repairs are done (for a while…. :^)

To be clear, the issues have never really been the motor. It's been lots of other things, but that motor lives up to the legend - about to turn over 288K mi and still getting a solid 23.5MPG, sometimes 25MPG or more if it's a long trip and not much weight in the car, no AC, fair winds, etc, etc. No blue smoke, only a few drops of oil per day from what is likely the rear main seal, or more hopefully, a seeping valve cover gasket (reminding me it's time to get the valves adjusted).

Also, there's (still) no rust on this car - and it's been here in salt-loving New England and on the road for almost 3 years. This year I'm considering the undercarriage oil spray - you can still get it done if you find the right garage in NH or more likely VT, forget about anywhere here in MA.

My son (who I built the car for in the first place) is now regularly driving the car - he loves it. He's learned a lot about cars by now, and he can confidently drive our stick shift cars as well - one new, one almost 34 years old. In it's current condition, I'd take the 300 SD anywhere…..but now I've got my son looking on the web for newer/better versions of this one - and he's spotted a black 300SDL w/ ABS and airbags near LAX for $9K…don't think I've got the time or interest to chase that one down - looks nice, but I"ll pass.

I figure the average new car (financed for an average 3.5 yrs) runs about $500/mo in payments alone  - and that's a lower end VW, NOT a new Mercedes.
That's $21K spent in (just over) the same time it's taken me to spend $10k. Would I love a new Mercedes? Sure thing. Do I want to pay for a new Mercedes? Not at this stage in my earning profile - it's money thrown away as far as I'm concerned. Kudos to those that can afford it, but congrats to those of us who can retain much of the style and safety w/out all the electronics and insane maintenance costs (although the lack of an airbag still gives me pause)….

cheers,

-Barton





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[diesel_mercedes] Re: started the 4-spd

 

What should I dump in my 300 gallon generator tank this fall before I start running it. My fuel is at least 5 years old and has been sitting outside. It's almost full. Max

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> Did you at least throw some SeaFoam in the tank?? Anytime I've got something sitting (when I know ahead of time) I dump a can (or more) in-- and try to "run it in..." It keeps the gas, and I think it does help in getting them (gas and diesel) re-started.. :)
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Exhaust Smoke

 

Nate says: If they're mis - matched or have even one that doesn't spray right on spec. or
drools , spits visible droplets instead of a super fine fog like mist , consider
replacing them all .
Do you mean re-place or rebuild? Max

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: started the 4-spd

 


She was my girlfriend for years, until I got a real one anyway. Sounds like it was a good show. Max
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "aleph93" <aleph93@...> wrote:
>
> Max,
>
> We saw Lucinda Williams a few years back, as my wife won tickets on the radio. We drove to LA in the MB, and really enjoyed the show. Steve Earle played with her, as well as a bunch of other guest performers.
>
> Hopefully, you'll be walking again soon.
>
>
> Rob
> Garden Grove, CA
> ==
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "max_stemple" <jasperezra@> wrote:
> >
> > Went out to the shed and started my 4 -spd. Started right up after sitting for several months. Hung out in the car with Lucinda Williams for four songs, temp got up to almost 80. I noticed the oil pressure took a while to light up, normal for sitting long time. Can't wait to walk and actually be able to do something. Max
> >
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Don't Be Afraid To Try

 

Way to go Barton!  I used to do a 850 mile round trip to NC from MD twice a month.  I would do a 300 mile round trip to PA to visit my Mom twice a week.  All of those miles were in either my 82 or 85 MBDiesel.  Great crusers.  I let my mechanic do all of the work.  I cannot be stranded in NC when it is 100 degrees with my dog in the car without air conditioning.  I do minor work, but mine has to go, safe and dependable.  I have almost a 1M miles on three, but the other MB is a gas engine wagon.  If I had a child, I would put him or her in a MB diesel.  
Boyd

From: Barton Fiske Gmail <barton.fiske@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 5:06 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Don't Be Afraid To Try

Been a while since I've posted - hopefully this will give some hope to this community - either in my "success" at keeping one of these running, or in the schaudenfreude of knowing most of you have probably spent less than I have (so far)….

I'm probably nearing $10k over 3 yrs into my '84 300SD…but I've only done 1/10th of the repairs myself, so to some degree I have myself to blame for the price tag (I originally paid $800 for a rusty shell w/ good motor, and $800 for a nice shell with a seized motor and a $300 in transport costs from PA to MA - so I'd already spent $2K and could not (safely) drive either car).

Perhaps a third of the remaining cost has been "elective surgery". Had the bumpers and a few scratches and dings repaired, really nice, new, all season radials on 15" rims, had the vacuum controls gone through as much as could be to get heat in all the right places,  etc.

Additional (expensive and non-optional) repairs included a good portion of the front suspension including power steering replacement and brakes/rotors/pads/bearings all around after about 5K miles back on the road and finding out what was really worn and what was still serviceable.

Yes, there are some really nice 300SD's out there for half that price - but then I would have to start over on the cost meter fixing whatever inevitably needs fixing on that car, and in three years time, likely to be near the same amount (assuming I still don't do the repairs myself).

The most recent repair finally solved my distressing vibration on acceleration - turned out it was the center driveshaft support bearing. Symptom was a pretty nasty wobble down the centerline of the car when accelerating into all but final drive. In general, parts are still cheap - but labor is not, assuming you can find someone who still knows how to do the work and is actually willing to. Replacing that bearing and getting things right took a lot more labor than the parts total would suggest. But it now accelerates smoothly and I don't get chills up my spine wondering if the driveshaft is about to snap. My honest hope right now is that the major repairs are done (for a while…. :^)

To be clear, the issues have never really been the motor. It's been lots of other things, but that motor lives up to the legend - about to turn over 288K mi and still getting a solid 23.5MPG, sometimes 25MPG or more if it's a long trip and not much weight in the car, no AC, fair winds, etc, etc. No blue smoke, only a few drops of oil per day from what is likely the rear main seal, or more hopefully, a seeping valve cover gasket (reminding me it's time to get the valves adjusted).

Also, there's (still) no rust on this car - and it's been here in salt-loving New England and on the road for almost 3 years. This year I'm considering the undercarriage oil spray - you can still get it done if you find the right garage in NH or more likely VT, forget about anywhere here in MA.

My son (who I built the car for in the first place) is now regularly driving the car - he loves it. He's learned a lot about cars by now, and he can confidently drive our stick shift cars as well - one new, one almost 34 years old. In it's current condition, I'd take the 300 SD anywhere…..but now I've got my son looking on the web for newer/better versions of this one - and he's spotted a black 300SDL w/ ABS and airbags near LAX for $9K…don't think I've got the time or interest to chase that one down - looks nice, but I"ll pass.

I figure the average new car (financed for an average 3.5 yrs) runs about $500/mo in payments alone  - and that's a lower end VW, NOT a new Mercedes.
That's $21K spent in (just over) the same time it's taken me to spend $10k. Would I love a new Mercedes? Sure thing. Do I want to pay for a new Mercedes? Not at this stage in my earning profile - it's money thrown away as far as I'm concerned. Kudos to those that can afford it, but congrats to those of us who can retain much of the style and safety w/out all the electronics and insane maintenance costs (although the lack of an airbag still gives me pause)….

cheers,

-Barton





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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Exhaust Hangers...seeking the RIGHT ones

 

Nate will reply with the p/n - you can go to autohausAZ and see pics. Search for muffler hangers or such. I have used coat hanger sections for emergencies. And, I carry a couple in my car "just in case" having dropped my muffler once upon a time on a Palm Springs speed bump. I give the cheap rubber donuts 1-2 years. Maybe today will be my change out day.  ps-last time I ordered the good ones from autohaus, they were back ordered. They are just rubberized with a bicycle chain embedded, and a PIA to get on. Use soapy water, good screwdriver, and be patient.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: CaitlinDean <tinymachine@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 7:24 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Exhaust Hangers...seeking the RIGHT ones

 
Hey all, yesterday I noticed that my 2 rubber exhaust donuts were both broken...having been replaced last November. So clearly I got the cheapies. Anyone know the p/n on the GOOD ones, or who has good deals on them etc etc?

And...is it usual for the cheap ones to not even last a year? I don't drive often...but it's a hot dry climate out here...and the place I go to do sweat lodge is on a bumpy dirt road. Just curious.

Thanks!
Caitlin in Santa Fe
83 300SD



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[diesel_mercedes] Exhaust Hangers...seeking the RIGHT ones

 

Hey all, yesterday I noticed that my 2 rubber exhaust donuts were both broken...having been replaced last November. So clearly I got the cheapies. Anyone know the p/n on the GOOD ones, or who has good deals on them etc etc?

And...is it usual for the cheap ones to not even last a year? I don't drive often...but it's a hot dry climate out here...and the place I go to do sweat lodge is on a bumpy dirt road. Just curious.

Thanks!
Caitlin in Santa Fe
83 300SD

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : ---gasser MT interchange?? OM616 OM617

 


I don't know but that is *NOT* a ' lame ' fantasy ! it sounds pretty darn good to me .

-Nate
AJ Asked :
>
> Hey-- do any of the gasser manual transmissions fit up to the 4 and 5 cyl diesels?
>
> If so-- what prevents it?? Is it something that could be overcome "reasonably easy" (flywheel/starter kind of stuff).
>
> --I have this recurrent "fantasy" of a w126 coupe, with a 4 or 5 speed, and a 5cyl turbodiesel..
>
> ...yeah, my fantasies get lamer, and more "mechanical" in my mid 40's.. LOL
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : W-123 seat repair/ spring swap

 


Very good Rob ! .

When removing the seat , it is necessary to slide the side adjuster forward to uncover the rear two 10 MM ATF bolts , as this side handle is often broken off , use the biggest flat blade crewdriver you've got to lever it up wilst you slide the seat forwards .

Using your fingers , will result in cut fingers .

-Nate
Rob wrote :
>
> Hi,
>
> I Added pics from my seat repair/ spring swap to our photos.
> Check: "Rob-Garden Grove" Seat repair, or see new photos. I added some details in the description. I hope it's helpful.
>
> Rob
> '85 300D
> Garden Grove, CA
>

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