Re: [diesel_mercedes] Picked up the 240D today!

 

Heidi
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Kevin Kraly <kraly@comcast.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Picked up the 240D today!

 
All I had to do to get her running was to hook up the new battery! One 45 second glow cycle and it lit right off like it was sitting overnight! The idle is a bit low and the shift notches don't line up with the gates, but the drivetrain performs as it should, even the kickdown function! Holding true with any 35 year old survivor, she does have some bad and a bit of ugly thrown in too. There's a rattle/grinding somewhere in the left rear when the car is moving. I thought it was the muffler dragging, but the exhaust seems to be buttoned up tightly. It doesn't sound like a sway bar link, more like something rubbing. It came with a set of brake pads, so it could be something with the left rear caliper. The back of the hood is up, probably bent hinges, and the UGLY is the rust through under the battery tray and a very small spot under the trunk seal!  The rear window gasket is quite dry and cracked, and the front isn't far behind. It's straight with a decent interior other than the warn driver's seat. All in all, it's a great car for $750!
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
1977 240D, 315K miles, Unnamed
PS. Still working on some German names, Irmgard, Liesel, ideas? I thought about Ismelda, (I smelled her) from a mile away hahahahaha!


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[diesel_mercedes] Picked up the 240D today!

 

All I had to do to get her running was to hook up the new battery! One 45 second glow cycle and it lit right off like it was sitting overnight! The idle is a bit low and the shift notches don't line up with the gates, but the drivetrain performs as it should, even the kickdown function! Holding true with any 35 year old survivor, she does have some bad and a bit of ugly thrown in too. There's a rattle/grinding somewhere in the left rear when the car is moving. I thought it was the muffler dragging, but the exhaust seems to be buttoned up tightly. It doesn't sound like a sway bar link, more like something rubbing. It came with a set of brake pads, so it could be something with the left rear caliper. The back of the hood is up, probably bent hinges, and the UGLY is the rust through under the battery tray and a very small spot under the trunk seal!  The rear window gasket is quite dry and cracked, and the front isn't far behind. It's straight with a decent interior other than the warn driver's seat. All in all, it's a great car for $750!
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
1977 240D, 315K miles, Unnamed
PS. Still working on some German names, Irmgard, Liesel, ideas? I thought about Ismelda, (I smelled her) from a mile away hahahahaha!

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: what a great car- miss my 190D

 

O, well my trucker friend hates that road. Last time I was there I was with my oldest boy in his WRX-STI and up pulled a new 500hp Vette next to us. My boy backed off at 120mph and all I saw was the taillights of the Vette as they got small real fast. I was never thrilled by speed, maybe that explains why I have had non turbo Mercedes. I kind of miss my 190D but couldnt take care of it proper anymore so I guess it's all good. Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "ygmir111" <ygmir111@...> wrote:
>
> there's a grade just out of Nevada City, that works, and is closer. For long
> runs, I80 is the place, though. especially from Donner lake, west to Donner
> summit.
> I believe it's about 8% for several miles........I've gotten the SDL up to
> 90 mph up that, trying to load it with respect to "full throttle, but not
> gaining speed".........I can't find a hill that I can do that on...........
>
>
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Fair market value for an old diesel

 

Thanks everyone for useful suggestions on what to do with my car. Unfortunately, I'm not near Roanoke (which I think is close to God's country) but am stationed in No. VA near DC (about as far from God's country as you can get).

The dealership found all pieces for the car but for the A/C manifold, which when I repaired my '81 A/C a couple years ago, the indy shop said a replacement on that was $1,000 if you can find one. I'm betting if a MB dealer can't find one for the '91, I won't either and can't imagine the price. Too bad the deer was on the left instead of the right.

I bought a '08 E320 as a replacement. MBUSA is giving money away @ 1.74% 100% financing. My initial impression is -- WOW -- what power the modern diesels have! On the downside, it just doesn't have that forged-from-a-single-chunk-of-Sindelfingen-steel feel that the old W126 had.

Oh, and just to be clear regarding the note below, I'm not "upset that I'm being ripped off" by GEICO. I'm just trying to establish FMV on a rare car, since MB only imported about 1200 of them. I found a '91 350SD that SOLD on e-bay for $7k, and it had two accidents on the records. $4.2K my eye.

Today, though, I might rethink my not griping. GEICO's quote for collision coverage for the '08 E is less than double the '91 S, but the former's FMV is 10 times the value they put on the old girl. Nahh, I don't feel ripped off, I just made a bad bargain.

MKJ

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@...> wrote:
>
> 1a. Re: Fair market value for an old diesel
> Posted by: "Chas" chasgould@... chasgould
> Date: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:11 am ((PST))
>
> With all due respect, although frustrating, this is not "another example of an
> insurer trying to rip off a customer". Rather, the customer has chosen to
> insure his vehicle only for fair market value as a used car, and not for an
> agreed value or a collector car value. As a result, the insurance premiums were
> based on this lower value risk to the insurer, and the customer never
> complained when the premiums were lower.
>
> Now that he has a valid claim, he is upset that the insurer is ripping HIM
> off. If he chose to purchase "agreed value" or collector car insurance, the
> actual cash value would have been established before the contract was signed,
> and before any premiums were charged, and the insurer would have based the
> premiums on the increased risk of the higher agreed value.
>
> The ironic thing here, is that specialty car insurers who write agreed value or
> collector policies, also recognize that collectors drive very few miles and
> take exceptional care of their cars. As a result, these specialty policies are
> usually considerably cheaper than conventional fair market value policies, and
> this should be a lesson to all of us on this list.
> Having said all of that, he now needs to embark on a research mission to find
> all favorable values for his car, including NADA and Kelly Blue Book (KBB) and
> Edmonds and Auto Trader. But, he needs to look at the collector car values on
> these sites and not just the used car values. He should also track the auction
> results ofr Basrret Jackson, and all of the other investment car auction sites.
>
> He also needs to tell the company that if they can find him a similar
> condition car for 4K, he will accept that amount. Otherwise, they need to pony
> up a more fair value for a replacement ride.
>
> The insurer has programs to show several vehicles for sale at lower values and
> will produce this as evidence. I have requested the copy of this report, and
> have actually called each of the sellers and dealers and found that the values
> are often either false, very old sales, or blatent fabrications. Often the
> dealer admits that the transmission had a noise and that the car was wholesaled
> for the low price.
>
> A diligent search, and advocating on your own behalf will increase the offer
> substantially, but he won't get to the maximaum values. If he is not up to the
> task, he should hire an attorney or professional adjuster who is familiar with
> collector car values. Then he should buy proper "agreed value" insurance for
> future losses.
> Chas
>
> --- In Arcane_autos@yahoogroups.com, Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@> wrote:
> >
> > Below is another sad story and an insurance company trying to rip off a
> > customer. Any advice helpful. Not my car. Owners email below or I will
> > forward. Lawrence Rhodes......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 1a. Fair market value for an old diesel
> > > Posted by: "mahatmakanejeeves" mahatmakanejeeves@
> > >mahatmakanejeeves
> > > Date: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:17 am ((PST))
> > >
> > > Dear all:
> > >
> > > My insurance company determined my 1991 350SD is totalled following an
> > >encounter with a deer. Body damage is limited to the hood, grill, and
> >driver's
> >
> > >side headlight. Airbags are intact. All the assorted heat exchangers were
> > >damaged, which is the big cost to repair. As for the deer, well she didn't
> > >suffer after the 60 mph impact.
> > >
> > > The Virginia dealership I towed it to estimates $12K to repair. GEICO says
>
> > >its market value is $4.2K. That seems like a lowball figure to me. The NADA
> >
> > >website says an "outstanding" example is worth $11K. Mine is a two-owner car
>
> > >with 100% books and records. No deferred maintenance and no amateurs worked
> >on
> >
> > >the car. Paint & interior 100%. I verified from dealer records the PO had
> >the
> >
> > >"excessive oil consumption" repair on the 350 motor and confirmed it with a
> > >compression test at purchase 11 years ago. Mileage at time of accident was
> > >201K. I think it easily falls in the outstanding category.
> > >
> > > Anyway, to get to the point, can folks give me pointers on how to better
> > >establish FMV on a rare car with an insurance company? When I get to missing
> >my
> >
> > >SD, I have to remind myself it's an inanimate object.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > MKJ
> >
>
> These are from the Arcane car list
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Messages in this topic (3)
> __________________________________________________________
> 1b. Re: Fair market value for an old diesel
> Posted by: "Roger Vise" Europutt@...
> Date: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:06 am ((PST))
>
>
> My wife had a wreck in a simalar set of standards.
> As I under stand it. The only way to get what a car like yours valued at true
> replacement cost .
> It must have had an agreed upon value policy before it was involved in the
> crash.
> Other wise it is just an old MBZ with over 200,000 miles.
> We live in a country that still rates cars on a 100,000 mile depration
> secdule. Once past that number no matter how old the car is it is valued at
> half the top book rate and goes down from that for other considerations.
> We got $1500 for a car that cost more than $6000 to come close to replacement.
> The car had less that 110,000 on it. It was a `95 Caprice LTZ . Like a loaded
> SS with a bench seat. The SS would have paid over $5000 for the same year.
> Roger
> LLCa
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: what a great car

 

there's a grade just out of Nevada City, that works, and is closer. For long
runs, I80 is the place, though. especially from Donner lake, west to Donner
summit.
I believe it's about 8% for several miles........I've gotten the SDL up to
90 mph up that, trying to load it with respect to "full throttle, but not
gaining speed".........I can't find a hill that I can do that on...........

----- Original Message -----
From: "max_stemple" <jasperezra@gmail.com>
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:31 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: what a great car

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "ygmir111" <ygmir111@...> wrote:
>
> Hi gang!!
> some of you may remember my adventure, this summer, coming back from my
> second drive to Colorado and back, where, I lost a radiator hose.......and
> things went downhill, from there.
>
>Went up a 6% slope for 6 miles, at 70 mph (it'd go faster, but those pesky

You go up towards Donner? Max

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: what a great car

 



--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "ygmir111" <ygmir111@...> wrote:
>
> Hi gang!!
> some of you may remember my adventure, this summer, coming back from my
> second drive to Colorado and back, where, I lost a radiator hose.......and
> things went downhill, from there.
>
>Went up a 6% slope for 6 miles, at 70 mph (it'd go faster, but those pesky

You go up towards Donner? Max

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Just thought of something

 

On Feb 25, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Trish Dougherty wrote:
Kevin wants to know what kind of bait to use to catch the nauga's.  

I always heard they were attracted to fresh snipe.  Of course, for that you need to go snipe hunting....

- Alan

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Fair market value for an old diesel

 

Insurance companies make money by paying out less then they bring in,
and of course investing the funds. It seems like everyone who gets in a
wreck has to fight to get fair market value for their old damaged
beauties, as the insurance companies always low ball. It's not like the
owner of one of these old MBs is expecting 20K, only enough that they
can buy something similar as a replacement.

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA
==

On 2/26/12 3:03 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: Fair market value for an old diesel
> Posted by: "Bobby Yates Emory"liberty1@gmail.com liberty1_27606
> Date: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:05 pm ((PST))
>
> Chas or Lawrence,
>
> There is another problem you are leading people into. The collector car
> insurance is only valid for very limited mileage. Many people on this list
> use their cars as daily drivers. If they get the collector car insurance,
> they may be denied if they have a claim.
>
> If anyone decides to get collector car insurance, be sure to be very
> explicit that you drive tens of thousands of miles per year.
>
> MKJ - good luck and keep fighting to get a reasonable settlement.
>
> Bobby
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Lawrence Rhodes<primobassoon@sbcglobal.net
>> > wrote:
>> > **
>> >
>> >
>> > 1a. Re: Fair market value for an old diesel
>> > Posted by: "Chas"chasgould@mac.com chasgould
>> > Date: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:11 am ((PST))
>> >
>> > With all due respect, although frustrating, this is not "another example
>> > of an
>> > insurer trying to rip off a customer". Rather, the customer has chosen to
>> > insure his vehicle only for fair market value as a used car, and not for
>> > an
>> > agreed value or a collector car value. As a result, the insurance premiums
>> > were
>> > based on this lower value risk to the insurer, and the customer never
>> > complained when the premiums were lower.
>> >
>> > Now that he has a valid claim, he is upset that the insurer is ripping HIM
>> > off. If he chose to purchase "agreed value" or collector car insurance,
>> > the
>> > actual cash value would have been established before the contract was
>> > signed,
>> > and before any premiums were charged, and the insurer would have based the
>> > premiums on the increased risk of the higher agreed value.
>> >
>> > The ironic thing here, is that specialty car insurers who write agreed
>> > value or
>> > collector policies, also recognize that collectors drive very few miles
>> > and
>> > take exceptional care of their cars. As a result, these specialty policies
>> > are
>> > usually considerably cheaper than conventional fair market value policies,
>> > and
>> > this should be a lesson to all of us on this list.
>> > Having said all of that, he now needs to embark on a research mission to
>> > find
>> > all favorable values for his car, including NADA and Kelly Blue Book (KBB)
>> > and
>> > Edmonds and Auto Trader. But, he needs to look at the collector car values
>> > on
>> > these sites and not just the used car values. He should also track the
>> > auction
>> > results ofr Basrret Jackson, and all of the other investment car auction
>> > sites.
>> >
>> > He also needs to tell the company that if they can find him a similar
>> > condition car for 4K, he will accept that amount. Otherwise, they need to
>> > pony
>> > up a more fair value for a replacement ride.
>> >
>> > The insurer has programs to show several vehicles for sale at lower values
>> > and
>> > will produce this as evidence. I have requested the copy of this report,
>> > and
>> > have actually called each of the sellers and dealers and found that the
>> > values
>> > are often either false, very old sales, or blatent fabrications. Often the
>> > dealer admits that the transmission had a noise and that the car was
>> > wholesaled
>> > for the low price.
>> >
>> > A diligent search, and advocating on your own behalf will increase the
>> > offer
>> > substantially, but he won't get to the maximaum values. If he is not up to
>> > the
>> > task, he should hire an attorney or professional adjuster who is familiar
>> > with
>> > collector car values. Then he should buy proper "agreed value" insurance
>> > for
>> > future losses.
>> > Chas

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Coupe Safety Triangle Clip

 

If you see another, remember me.  I have an unsecured triangle, and I think there is another one in the M&I Surplus store on Garey in Pomona. But, I now carry 2 or 3 stackable rubber orange cones which (I think) are an improvement on safety over the triangles. But, to be pure I might want to get another triangle just for looks.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:50 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Coupe Safety Triangle Clip

 

Interestingly , my 1980 300CD used the standard clip but my 1984 300CD uses the early clip used in W-116's and early W-123's , Tom says this is a discontinued part so I kept looking and recently ran across a fairly decent 1977 240D in Pick-A-Part , it had the early clip so I ever so carefully removed it and yesterday fitted it to the trunk of my '84 300CD , replacing the goofy looking if functional rubber bungie cord....

-Nate



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