RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: 1965 190d wont start

 

I would avoid replacing any of that until all else has failed.

The starter system is the thickest wire from the battery to ground, and from the battery to the starter.

Check the connectors on the wire ends for discoloration, corrosion and deterioration.

You could take pictures and post them on this site. Bill in Oregon


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So I traced the battery cables to where they connect to the car and this is what I found. How do you replace these? See attachment.

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Date:Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:15 AM
Subject:[diesel_mercedes] Re: 1965 190d wont start

 

"I actually just changed and cleaned the fuel filters right before moving it. They were awful."

 

More Clues!  However the motor must turn over to do any testing.  That is electrical.  Lawrence Rhodes

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Fuel Economy Check '82 240D Automatic

 

Bill in Oregon

https://killerfilter.com/filters/PUROLATOR/F50153_PUROLATOR-filter.html


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AC used the entire tank , Startron used , still a little cloudy in the clear plastic primary fuel filter (Purolator # F50153 @ Pep Boys although their catalog doesn't show it , it's on the shelf) .

 

313 miles , 24.7 MPG .

 

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: 1965 190d wont start

 

Is there a way to post photos in my post?

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[diesel_mercedes] Fuel Economy Check '82 240D Automatic

 


AC used the entire tank , Startron used , still a little cloudy in the clear plastic primary fuel filter (Purolator # F50153 @ Pep Boys although their catalog doesn't show it , it's on the shelf) .

313 miles , 24.7 MPG .

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Cooling System Fun [3 Attachments]

 
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Tom's 300SDL has had a slow coolant loss since he bought it last year  , initially it also ran a bit too hot , I did a heavy Citric Acid flush on it as the coolant tank showed rust silt inside it , this seemed to halt the collection of rust silt and afterwards the cooling only got a bit warm when running the AC and going up hills on the Freeway .

Recently we took a cross country trip from California to Maine , often we'd have to shut off the AC when ascending hills as he'd get nervous when it reached 100* C , the coolant loss increased at the same time although we couldn't find any leaks and the system pressure checks O.K. .

Some times there was a slight streak of something on the right leading edge of the hood , Tom thought it was coolant , as it never made even a droplet , just a dark stain of something that collected dust , I couldn't tell .

After we arrived in Maine , needing a pint of pre mix coolant every 800 miles or so , I was looking under the hood as he bought new coolant in a NAPA Partshaus , I thought maybe the 7 MM coolant return hose from the radiator's top tank to the plastic  surge tank *might* have a similar looking stain right where the hose connects to the radiator's nipple ~ the hose was also looking tired , clearly the original 1987 one as it felt too soft to the touch and was swelled up near the clamp so I decided to replace it .

I went inside the NAPA Store and asked for some 7 MM coolant hose , they had it in stock , cut me off a carefully measured piece and then is when the real fun began .

Upon removing the hose from the surge tank I saw a rusty chrome pipe sticking out of the tank's nipple , when I removed the hose from the radiator's nipple I thought I saw a bit of rust flake so I used my toothpick to try and scrape it out ~ instead I gently teased and coaxed out a 10" long string of red RTV sealant ! (picture attached)  apparently some prior repair had been poorly done elsewhere in the cooling system and when it was filled with coolant and run , the excess RTV collected in the top outlet nipple of the radiator , blocking the coolant flow to the surge tank .

This is fairly common on thermostat and water pump repairs : folks use a bead of sealant instead of carefully using the fingertip to smear a super thin coating of RTV , when the parts are re assembled the excess RTV mooshes out , not only outside but inside as well where it travels and causes havoc wherever it winds up ~ often in the oiling system , causing catastrophic engine failure .
This is why I like to take things apart : I know from 50 + years of working on machines that often there are hidden issues ~ Tom hates it when I take his cars / engines apart but when dealing with older machinery there's always some little thing that's not apparent ~ a loose screw or gone missing washer , some old gasket materiel in the sump that'll get sucked against the oil intake screen and reduce oil flow , a little thing that's just waiting to do you dirt .

I'd wanted to remove the entire radiator as experience has taught me that whenever there's a cooling issue , there's almost always crud hidden in it somewhere ~ in Mercedes , it's usually in the lower radiator tank where no amount of in car flushing will get it loose , but easy to flush out with a garden hose and your fingers when the radiator is off the car .

I also often find strings of RTV trailing out the thermostat and into the top tank on a regular basis , even on Dealer Serviced vehicles .

Just _looking_ in the upper water jacket is often educational as the coolant may be clean looking but if there's a red coating of silt inside the hose nipples , your cooling system is not able to properly transfer heat away and this same rust will create ever MORE rust and damage , water pump wear etc. as you drive along .

Take the time to sweat the small things and your 40 year old Mercedes will remain trouble free and inexpensive to operate .

-Nate

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: 1965 190d wont start [1 Attachment]

 
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So I traced the battery cables to where they connect to the car and this is what I found. How do you replace these? See attachment.

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Subject:[diesel_mercedes] Re: 1965 190d wont start

 

"I actually just changed and cleaned the fuel filters right before moving it. They were awful."

More Clues!  However the motor must turn over to do any testing.  That is electrical.  Lawrence Rhodes

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