ouch, adding insult to injury!
chuck
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, briankk <briankk@...> wrote:
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> Knew a guy who, back in the day, allowed his wife to use his 4.1 big block Ferrari to run an errand or something, she allowed a gas guy to pour in a couple of quarts of gas station motor oil in with the castor the engine was running, the mess congealed, the bottom end was ruined, the car came into a shop owned by a fellow I used to know in San Jose, who tore it down, found the crank and cams and other stuff kaput.
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> He wrote a letter to Ferrari, explaining what he needed, and eventually got a return that said that Ferrari had found the bluepeint for that crank, and would forge them a new one someday, meantime send $4000 please.. This was in '57 or 8, when 4 grand was a LOT of money. As a matter of fact, I recall that the price of that car, a Ferrari America coupe, was $12k new, because it was advertized on the back of the program for the '56 Pebble Beach road races..
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> Vern was killed in an auto accident a couple of months later, never did find out what eventually became of the Ferrari..
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> From: max_stemple <jasperezra@...>
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Break down/ gasoline
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, March 2, 2012, 5:56 PM
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> One time my wife came home with the 1959 190D, our daily driver back in the day, this was about 1977, anyway she came home and said the car is running funny,,,,,,,,,,,,,. I went to look at it aand I could smell gasoline right away. The car ran, but ran like crap, no power. She had pulled into a gas station and the guy put gas into the car instead of diesel. She drove away and very soon the car started running bad. It happens. max
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> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "c24052000" <jcrcpa@> wrote:
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> > one last comment (well maybe not the last) Are you sure it was diesel you added to the tank? If I remember corectly the symptoms of gas in the tank are similar.
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> > Chuck
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> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Trish Dougherty <purrfectharmonyfarm@> wrote:
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> > > But it ran perfect last Friday right after he did the valve adjustment and
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> > > it ran perfect Saturday morning until we filled the tank with $50 of
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> > > diesel!
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> > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:07 AM, c24052000 <jcrcpa@> wrote:
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> > > > anybody here think it might be the alda? I don't know enough about it to
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> > > > be sure.
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> > > > Also be sure the mechanicals on top of the valve cover are attached
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> > > > correctly. My car had a sluggish issue because I attached the levers
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> > > > backwards after a valve adjustment.
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> > > > Chuck
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> > > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Trish Dougherty
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> > > > <purrfectharmonyfarm@> wrote:
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> > > > > Cool not buying a filter and cleaning the existing one will save me $ and
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> > > > > time as I can't get it local I'd have to order it...been online all
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> > > > > looking.
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> > > > > I know. I know. We're *almost* there. The thing that's pushing Kevin now
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> > > > > is that it was running perfect and he's just down right po'd at it now.
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> > > > > says no way will it win. :)
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> > > > > Patience...over rated.
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> > > > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Mark in Lakewood, CO <beeser750@
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> > > > > > You don't need to replace the in-tank filter. It can be removed and
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> > > > > > cleaned with gasoline or mineral spirits.
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> > > > > > If the earlier engine had "gunk" in the filter, then you can be pretty
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> > > > > > sure it's in the tank. I can envision black slime sticking to the
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> > > > > > the tank, getting loosened up when you pumped in new fuel, and now it's
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> > > > > > clogging the in-tank filter/strainer. The symptoms as you describe them
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> > > > > > are textbook....
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> > > > > > Pulling the tank, shaking it with gasoline and a length of chain inside
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> > > > > > then rinsing it out and letting it sit in the sun for a day or two
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> > > > > > surely go a long way to solve tank contamination.
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> > > > > > That and make sure all the fuel lines are tight. Oh, and patience.
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> > > > > > forget that. I know that, after all the time and money you've put into
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> > > > > > this, it's frustrating to have the car just not run. But now you're
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> > > > > > there, so don't give up! You've already done the hard part (swapping
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> > > > > > Mark in Lakewood, CO
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> > > > > > *From: *"Trish Dougherty" <purrfectharmonyfarm@>
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> > > > > > *To: *"diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
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> > > > > > *Sent: *Friday, March 2, 2012 8:41:21 AM
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> > > > > > *Subject: *Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Break down/picture of hand pump
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> > > > > > NOW he tells me what he really wanted was a break down of the thing the
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> > > > > > hand pump attaches to. Geez.
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> > > > > > I told him to check the vent line to make sure he didn't blow it off.
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> > > > > > Air filter is new.
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> > > > > > Clear filter is still clear...for now. The old one on the other motor
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> > > > > > gunk in it. I'm checking locally for the in tank filter. I know the
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> > > > > > has crud in it. Kevin put the Star Tron tank cleaner in on Tues. I
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> > > > > > he's contemplating pulling the tank. That would cure one problem. Oh I
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> > > > > > think way back when I started this adventure someone told me to go get
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> > > > > > length of fuel line...that would be something to pick up today if I can
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> > > > > > find it local. Wouldn't hurt to change them all.
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> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Aleph93 <aleph93@> wrote:
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> > > > > >> The newer black hand pumps work fine, and it doesn't take to much
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> > > > > >> to fill a fuel filter, just leave if the filter a little loose and
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> > > > > >> the little escaping bubbles turn to diesel, then it's full. After
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> > > > > >> starting there's still an air bubble in the line that will hit the
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> > > > > >> injectors a little while after you start it, so you'll have to give
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> > > > > >> bit more fuel, and be ready to give even more when it stumbles. After
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> > > > > >> that, the bubble should be gone, unless there's an air leak
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> > > > somewhere. I
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> > > > > >> like to change the fuel filter after the car is warmed up, so there's
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> > > > > >> easy start and less issues with it stalling when the air bubble hits.
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> > > > > >> Once there's air in the injector lines, you have to loosen them, one
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> > > > > >> a time, and crank the engine to bleed them of air.
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> > > > > >> How's the air filter?
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> > > > > >> Another thing is slime clogged filters and the tank screen. If your
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> > > > > >> primary filter has black chunks in it, you may have a clogged screen
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> > > > > >> Rob
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> > > > > >> '85 300D
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> > > > > >> Garden Grove, CA
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> > > > > >> On 3/2/12 3:01 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> > > > > >> > Re: Break down/picture of hand pump
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> > > > > >> > Posted by: "BStromsoe"bstromsoe@ bstromsoe
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> > > > > >> > Date: Thu Mar 1, 2012 6:00 pm ((PST))
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> > > > > >> > The hand pumps are available from most of the parts houses if you do
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> > > > > >> not want to grab one from a PAP car. The new ones look handy dandy,
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> > > > but I
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> > > > > >> stick with the old white ones. I seem to only need one when I run out
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> > > > > >> fuel (twice in 10 years) or when I change the filters.
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> > > > > >> > brian from laverne, ca
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> > > > > >> > Mary (195K) Martha (280K)
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> > > > > >> > 1983 w123 300d's
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> > > > > >> > ________________________________
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> > > > > >> > From: Trish Dougherty<purrfectharmonyfarm@>
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> > > > > >> > To:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > > >> > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 5:52 PM
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> > > > > >> > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Break down/picture of hand pump
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> > > > > >> > I've been looking online but can't find any pictures of the hand
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> > > > > >> Anyone know where I can find one?
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> > > > > >> > Kevin's already replaced the one on the car from the other motor.
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> > > > Today
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> > > > > >> he noticed a small gasket missing and replaced it.
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> > > > > >> > We're still getting air bubbles. We got the car running, but it
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> > > > > >> idle, it conks out. The last time it died it refused to start again.
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> > > > We had
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> > > > > >> the fuel tank lid off. Gave up today. He'll deal with it some more
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> > > > tomorrow.
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> > > > > >> > -- Trish Dougherty PurrFect Harmony Farm Ennis, TX
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> > > > > >> > http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
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> > > > > > Trish Dougherty
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> > > > > > PurrFect Harmony Farm
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> > > > > > http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
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> > > Trish Dougherty
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> > > PurrFect Harmony Farm
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> > > Ennis, TX
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> > > http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
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