[diesel_mercedes] Re: Front/Rear Glass replacement.. w126

 

People keep insisting on living in the canyons and foothills - and guess what; that is where fires roar. The rest of us in the flat lands just watch and wonder.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Max temple <jasperezra@...> wrote:
>
> How you boys in Sol Cal making out this winter? It's the driest in
> California history. Same up here, except maybe the second driest. I saw on
> news last night a fire down there and it looked like the Santanas were
> blowing, also 88 degrees in LA, wow. Hardly gets that hot in summer here.
> Max not plowing or shoveling much snow
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I just had Safelite replace my front windshield , they were fast and
> > efficient , I provided the rubber grommet as I refuse to use the Chinese
> > carppo ones they'll use no matter what they tell you .
> >
> > Write Tom Hansen @ The Mercedes Classic Center with your V.I.N. and he'll
> > ship you both front and rear grommets cheaper than the M-B Dealer near you
> > will , faster too .
> >
> > Then have Safelite supply and install their glass , it's cheap , under $20
> > installed and lifetime warranty on water leaks .
> >
> >
> >
> > If the delamination is just the odd colors in the back light ignore it ,
> > it'll never break or fail .
> >
> >
> > -Nate
> >
> >
> >
> > Anthony Wrote :
> >
> > The rear has the legendary de-laminaton..
> >
> > The front had two stone chips-- the first I was told wasn't a candidate
> > for the "repair" stuff they do-- a second happened about a week later..
> >
> > ...that turned into a "mustache" last week..
> >
> > My "other" 300SD has similar glass-- so "parts car" won't help here..
> >
> > Thoughts about Safelite replacement?? Better or worse than "junkyard
> > replacement?"
> >
> > I emailed safelite for a "quote..." The car is liability only, for
> > insurance-- so it's "out of pocket" no matter what the route..
> >
> > Do front screens become "brittle?" Did 'Ma Benz' ever sort out the
> > delamination on the rear screens? I think 90% of the ones I see roaming
> > NW ohio have "some degree" of it..
> >
> > The car is going to continue being my daughter (17's) daily driver.. Her
> > goal is to keep it "forever..." So I try not to much around going "cheap"
> > here.. The car doesn't look at at the moment.. *shrug*
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Charging Lamp & Rate

 

Your prices are tempting me.

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, <aldridgetony97@...> wrote:
>
> Put in a new flaps alternator last year and just lately have noticed that the charging light stays on until I touch the loud pedal, so I guess that the alternator is not being energized until it hits a slightly higher rpm, only happens on the first start up of the day.
> On another note, had the AC compressor replaced, get to pick up the car in the morning, They put in a new filter, expansion chamber and cleaned out all the plumbing, cost 4500 pesos, about $400.
> Just do not like driving at highway speeds with windows down, too noisy and uncomfortable.
> Tony.
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Charging Lamp & Rate

 

Put in a new flaps alternator last year and just lately have noticed that the charging light stays on until I touch the loud pedal, so I guess that the alternator is not being energized until it hits a slightly higher rpm, only happens on the first start up of the day.

On another note, had the AC compressor replaced, get to pick up the car in the morning, They put in a new filter, expansion chamber and cleaned out all the plumbing, cost 4500 pesos, about $400.

Just do not like driving at highway speeds with windows down, too noisy and uncomfortable.

Tony.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] SoCal weather

 

Yes, it's been warm and dry down here.
I'm glad my AC works.

Even though there's a few things I need to work on for the MB, I plan to
check out a few Volvo 240s for my wife.
We had a friend say that they had a newer Volvo they were going to sell,
a XC70, yet my indy guy said don't buy one, they're junk. Just as with
our old MBs, they don't make them like that anymore.

Rob
Garden Grove, CA
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On 1/17/14, 12:27 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: Front/Rear Glass replacement.. w126
> Posted by: "Max temple"jasperezra@gmail.com max_stemple
> Date: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:27 pm ((PST))
>
> How you boys in Sol Cal making out this winter? It's the driest in
> California history. Same up here, except maybe the second driest. I saw on
> news last night a fire down there and it looked like the Santanas were
> blowing, also 88 degrees in LA, wow. Hardly gets that hot in summer here.
> Max not plowing or shoveling much snow

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Auxiliary glow plug switch.

 

My 59 190D has that one too. Max


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Ygmir Tunn <ygmir111@att.net> wrote:
my 72 220D has the pull out, manual knob. I like it best! total control

Henry



On 1/17/2014 12:15 PM, Max temple wrote:
> Hey, I had a 1977 240D with the exact same hookup. Had a toggle switch
> on the dash on the  left side of the wheel. I just counted to 10 or
> something like that. It worked great. Had one of those big Ford type
> relays. I would not hesitate wiring one of my cars like that. Maxc
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Mark F <mark.internet@yahoo.ca
> <mailto:mark.internet@yahoo.ca>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     I had a 1977 240D that I rigged up with a toggle switch connected to
>     I think the violet wire going to the glow plug relay.
>     As I remember, it bypassed the relay timer.
>     It would keep the plugs glowing after the motor started as well.
>     This helped cold weather starts too.
>     One other person that had done the same mod would flip the switch
>     when he went through the drive through and found it quiter when he
>     was ordering.
>
>     Mark
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net
>     <mailto:primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>>
>     *To:* "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>"
>     <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:32:04 AM
>     *Subject:* [diesel_mercedes] Auxiliary glow plug switch.
>
>     I have found that working glow plugs make a huge difference in
>     starting a diesel.  Sometimes just a little more time is needed.
>       You can do this with double starts which means running two start
>     cycles.  Another method which on one car became the normal method
>     was to put in a manual glow plug switch in.  This includes a simple
>     automotive relay you can buy at a parts store for under 10 dollars
>     or take one from under the hood of just about any car in a junk
>     yard.  Very simple.   Two connections of the four or 5 terminals are
>     the activation circuit.  Two others(usually the big ones) carry the
>     current to the glow plug circuit.(a circuit in electrical terms can
>     be as simple as a battery, switch and light bulb with wires
>     connecting them together.) You hook a direct connection from your
>     battery to a fuse, then the relay, from the relay splice into the
>     glow plug circuit.  Then you have to connect the activation circuit
>     using a momentary switch.  I found the pin in the circuit that
>     activates the glow plug light so when I push the switch the glow
>     plug light illuminates.  I believe I have documented this somewhere
>     on the this lists website so  look for the pictures if you are
>     interested in this modification.  I count to 5 normally.  10 in
>     winter.  Lawrence Rhodes.........
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/754486194/pic/list This
>     is not mine.
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/215944240/pic/list nor
>     this.
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/899645931/pic/list my
>     modification of a series model 1977.  Requires using different glow
>     plugs that ground.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] RE: Front/Rear Glass replacement.. w126

 

How you boys in Sol Cal making out this winter? It's the driest in California history. Same up here, except maybe the second driest. I saw on news last night a fire down there and it looked like the Santanas were blowing, also 88 degrees in LA, wow. Hardly gets that hot in summer here. Max    not plowing or shoveling much snow


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:




I just had Safelite replace my front windshield , they were fast and efficient , I provided the rubber grommet as I refuse to use the Chinese carppo ones they'll use no matter what they tell you .

Write Tom Hansen @ The Mercedes Classic Center with your V.I.N. and he'll ship you both front and rear grommets cheaper than the M-B Dealer near you will , faster too .

Then have Safelite supply and install their glass , it's cheap , under $20 installed and lifetime warranty on water leaks .

 

If the delamination is just the odd colors in the back light  ignore it , it'll never break or fail .


-Nate



      Anthony Wrote :

The rear has the legendary de-laminaton.. 

The front had two stone chips-- the first I was told wasn't a candidate for the "repair" stuff they do-- a second happened about a week later..

...that turned into a "mustache" last week..

My "other" 300SD has similar glass-- so "parts car" won't help here..

Thoughts about Safelite replacement??   Better or worse than "junkyard replacement?"

I emailed safelite for a "quote..."    The car is liability only, for insurance-- so it's "out of pocket" no matter what the route..

Do front screens become "brittle?"   Did 'Ma Benz' ever sort out the delamination on the rear screens?   I think 90% of the ones I see roaming NW ohio have "some degree" of it..

The car is going to continue being my daughter (17's) daily driver..  Her goal is to keep it "forever..."   So I try not to much around going "cheap" here..   The car doesn't look at at the moment.. *shrug*

Anthony



 



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Auxiliary glow plug switch.

my 72 220D has the pull out, manual knob. I like it best! total control

Henry



On 1/17/2014 12:15 PM, Max temple wrote:
> Hey, I had a 1977 240D with the exact same hookup. Had a toggle switch
> on the dash on the left side of the wheel. I just counted to 10 or
> something like that. It worked great. Had one of those big Ford type
> relays. I would not hesitate wiring one of my cars like that. Maxc
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Mark F <mark.internet@yahoo.ca
> <mailto:mark.internet@yahoo.ca>> wrote:
>
>
>
> I had a 1977 240D that I rigged up with a toggle switch connected to
> I think the violet wire going to the glow plug relay.
> As I remember, it bypassed the relay timer.
> It would keep the plugs glowing after the motor started as well.
> This helped cold weather starts too.
> One other person that had done the same mod would flip the switch
> when he went through the drive through and found it quiter when he
> was ordering.
>
> Mark
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>>
> *To:* "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>"
> <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:32:04 AM
> *Subject:* [diesel_mercedes] Auxiliary glow plug switch.
>
> I have found that working glow plugs make a huge difference in
> starting a diesel. Sometimes just a little more time is needed.
> You can do this with double starts which means running two start
> cycles. Another method which on one car became the normal method
> was to put in a manual glow plug switch in. This includes a simple
> automotive relay you can buy at a parts store for under 10 dollars
> or take one from under the hood of just about any car in a junk
> yard. Very simple. Two connections of the four or 5 terminals are
> the activation circuit. Two others(usually the big ones) carry the
> current to the glow plug circuit.(a circuit in electrical terms can
> be as simple as a battery, switch and light bulb with wires
> connecting them together.) You hook a direct connection from your
> battery to a fuse, then the relay, from the relay splice into the
> glow plug circuit. Then you have to connect the activation circuit
> using a momentary switch. I found the pin in the circuit that
> activates the glow plug light so when I push the switch the glow
> plug light illuminates. I believe I have documented this somewhere
> on the this lists website so look for the pictures if you are
> interested in this modification. I count to 5 normally. 10 in
> winter. Lawrence Rhodes.........
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/754486194/pic/list This
> is not mine.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/215944240/pic/list nor
> this.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/899645931/pic/list my
> modification of a series model 1977. Requires using different glow
> plugs that ground.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Auxiliary glow plug switch.

 

Hey, I had a 1977 240D with the exact same hookup. Had a toggle switch on the dash on the  left side of the wheel. I just counted to 10 or something like that. It worked great. Had one of those big Ford type relays. I would not hesitate wiring one of my cars like that. Maxc


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Mark F <mark.internet@yahoo.ca> wrote:


I had a 1977 240D that I rigged up with a toggle switch connected to I think the violet wire going to the glow plug relay.
As I remember, it bypassed the relay timer.
It would keep the plugs glowing after the motor started as well.
This helped cold weather starts too.
One other person that had done the same mod would flip the switch when he went through the drive through and found it quiter when he was ordering.

Mark
From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:32:04 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Auxiliary glow plug switch.

 
I have found that working glow plugs make a huge difference in starting a diesel.  Sometimes just a little more time is needed.  You can do this with double starts which means running two start cycles.  Another method which on one car became the normal method was to put in a manual glow plug switch in.  This includes a simple automotive relay you can buy at a parts store for under 10 dollars or take one from under the hood of just about any car in a junk yard.  Very simple.   Two connections of the four or 5 terminals are the activation circuit.  Two others(usually the big ones) carry the current to the glow plug circuit.(a circuit in electrical terms can be as simple as a battery, switch and light bulb with wires connecting them together.) You hook a direct connection from your battery to a fuse, then the relay, from the relay splice into the glow plug circuit.  Then you have to connect the activation circuit using a momentary switch.  I found the pin in the circuit that activates the glow plug light so when I push the switch the glow plug light illuminates.  I believe I have documented this somewhere on the this lists website so  look for the pictures if you are interested in this modification.  I count to 5 normally.  10 in winter.  Lawrence Rhodes.........
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/photos/album/899645931/pic/list my modification of a series model 1977.  Requires using different glow plugs that ground.






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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Rust Causes

 

Thats exactly why if you live in snow country, do not park in a heated space. I've lived in snow country for 35 years now. Havent noticed any of my cars rusting. I do have killer water pressure from natural springs and I am always hosing off the mud during break-up. Max


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 9:05 AM, <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:




Yes and no Max ;


I grew up in Rural New England and lived off the paved Highway on a Dairy Farm for some years , no salt ever but , the snow and grime that flings with it , gets up in the nooks and crannies of many cars (50's vintage GM's come to mind) and remains there long after the snow has melted away , holding moisture in close contact with your precious steel,,,,,,,,


-Nate


       Max Wrote :

Snow, by itself has nothing to do with car rusting. But if you drive where they dump chemicals for ice then that takes its toll. Around here I think they started using a liquid chemical, sprayed on the roads before snow to prevent ice buildup. Someone told me its like the stuff in tractor tires, calcium somethingor other  .In NE Washington where we certainly get a snowy winter, rusted out cars are not a normal thing, but the cars from back east and parts of Montana are. max






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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Charging Lamp & Rate

 

I seem to remember a ground strap between the engine/trans and the body.


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:22 PM, <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 


_something_ isn't right there if it never charges above 13 VDC .


Adding the ground strap may just do the trick .

It certainly helped both Nate's on this list , increasing both charging voltage and cranking speeds .

-Nate



       Bud Wrote :

Well, I haven't had the battery die yet, light is still working as I described.  Today when I got home I left the engine running and checked the voltage.  It was 12.2, reved the engine a bit and no change didn't force a charge.  The light on the dash goes off completely at about 35mph and above.

I've got a brand new Bosch voltage regulator in there, it's probably got 100 miles on it.

I'm thinking of picking up one of those cigarette lighter voltmeters to see what it's doing.

I was surprised the battery ground goes to sheet metal and not the engine/tranny bell housing, I'll have to add a ground cable.

Bud







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[diesel_mercedes] RE: Front/Rear Glass replacement.. w126

 



I just had Safelite replace my front windshield , they were fast and efficient , I provided the rubber grommet as I refuse to use the Chinese carppo ones they'll use no matter what they tell you .

Write Tom Hansen @ The Mercedes Classic Center with your V.I.N. and he'll ship you both front and rear grommets cheaper than the M-B Dealer near you will , faster too .

Then have Safelite supply and install their glass , it's cheap , under $20 installed and lifetime warranty on water leaks .

 

If the delamination is just the odd colors in the back light  ignore it , it'll never break or fail .


-Nate



      Anthony Wrote :

The rear has the legendary de-laminaton.. 

The front had two stone chips-- the first I was told wasn't a candidate for the "repair" stuff they do-- a second happened about a week later..

...that turned into a "mustache" last week..

My "other" 300SD has similar glass-- so "parts car" won't help here..

Thoughts about Safelite replacement??   Better or worse than "junkyard replacement?"

I emailed safelite for a "quote..."    The car is liability only, for insurance-- so it's "out of pocket" no matter what the route..

Do front screens become "brittle?"   Did 'Ma Benz' ever sort out the delamination on the rear screens?   I think 90% of the ones I see roaming NW ohio have "some degree" of it..

The car is going to continue being my daughter (17's) daily driver..  Her goal is to keep it "forever..."   So I try not to much around going "cheap" here..   The car doesn't look at at the moment.. *shrug*

Anthony



 

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[diesel_mercedes] Charging Lamp & Rate

 


_something_ isn't right there if it never charges above 13 VDC .


Adding the ground strap may just do the trick .

It certainly helped both Nate's on this list , increasing both charging voltage and cranking speeds .

-Nate



       Bud Wrote :

Well, I haven't had the battery die yet, light is still working as I described.  Today when I got home I left the engine running and checked the voltage.  It was 12.2, reved the engine a bit and no change didn't force a charge.  The light on the dash goes off completely at about 35mph and above.

I've got a brand new Bosch voltage regulator in there, it's probably got 100 miles on it.

I'm thinking of picking up one of those cigarette lighter voltmeters to see what it's doing.

I was surprised the battery ground goes to sheet metal and not the engine/tranny bell housing, I'll have to add a ground cable.

Bud




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[diesel_mercedes] RE: Vac diagram/question w126

 

You have a big leak in the central locking system , I'd find the yellow plastic pipe under the hood where it connects to the other vacuum pipes , cap it off and plug the hole , see if this helps .

The next thing is to drop the left side dash board cover panel and find and replace the two 3" long rubber hoses at the back of the ign. switch , they connect to two brown plastic pipes and unless you personally changed them , I _guarantee_ they're leaking right now .

Then look at the back of the injection pump and locate the brown plastic pipe and short hose bit , replace it and you should have an engine that halts quickly .


The vacuum pumps do fail slowly but before touching it you *MUST* replace ALL those short bits of vacuum hose .


-Nate



       AJ Wrote :

I've known for some time that I've got a vac system issue in my 84 300SD..

The central locks don't "extactly" work..  The drivers door locks the trunk and fuel door..  Not the car doors..

On cold days (and when the engine is cold) the engine doesn't shut off with the key..  Locking the door doesn't shut the car off (as my old 240D did)-- but pressing the brake pedal does..  Pressing a different button on the hvac controller does, as well..  (Changing from defrost to vent, I think is what I did, yesterday..)

I've been having cold start issues-- I'm wondering if the pump doesn't have enough vacuum start?  Is that a possibility??

after the engine starts, even a second or two of runtime-- it's a non-issue..

The glow plug circuit has been interrogated to death-- and it's functional, the glows have all been ohm tested (with removal/replacement scheduled...)   It doesn't "ACT" like a glow plug issue..






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