Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Why Not Grease car ?

 

Nate,

Not really trying to debate this, but, using your logic, if we never use grease in a car, it will never end up in the junk yard?

You may be looking at a secondary result of the ownership.  Most likely frugal (cheap) people use grease, people with more income/willing to spend it don't?  I'm definitely in the frugal group, I have run WVO for probably 7-10 years.  But the first mercedes that may be scrapped is the one that never ran on WVO.

I have a 300D that the temperature sensor wasn't working (5$ item).  It was okay for me to drive for years as I check the fluids and know the car.  I recently had several issues that removed my other 2 cars off the road.  My daughter and wife started driving the 300D.  The radiator overheated, melted the cooling hoses, melted the injector return hoses.  Finally, they parked it after a week of abuse saying they didn't feel safe driving it with all of the smoke.

Yeah, If I win the lottery, I probably would have the mechanic fix things a little quicker.  But at least I am now assured that the 300D will never die as I have not converted it to grease.  ;^)

My grease car has two tanks.  Use the proper fuel for the proper use.

Carl




On 1/4/2013 10:52 AM, Nate wrote:

 


You answered the question the same as I ~ " you can't use it as a town car " .

90 + % of vehicle usage is In Town Driving and that's why almost _ALL_
grease cars wind up in Pick-A-Part where we scavange the good bits...

" free fuel " ISA LIE .

It appears I have missed a few messages , sorry .

-Nate
Lawrence wrote :
>
> Why not! I've been doing it for 8 years. My first car a 77 240D went over 100k
> and ran better when I sold it than when I bought it. It was always a slug. But
> could do 65 or 70 on the road. Make it over the grapevine to San Diego from San
> Francisco and Make it to Seattle on one trunk of fuel. 72 gallons. That's 10 5
> gallon cubes and tilting the car sideways I could get 22 gallons into the tank.
> You can't use the car as a town car anymore. Minimum of 10 miles per trip.
> Line heaters or a veg therm in line to heat the fuel is mandatory although I've
> seen some just use a vormax or coolant heat. So yes they do smoke but since
> these cars only cost a couple of thousand each if I blow one up (which I never
> did) who cares. Very cost effective. I do have to say I lost one 300Turbo to a
> loud knocking in the motor & I lost a 6.2 Suburban to a connecting rod going
> through the case. This is over an 8 year period. The Suburban is still
> running. With an engine replacement. A bunch of kids drove it to San Diego from
> San Francisco and back and it's just being used by one of them. Lawrence Rhodes
>



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[diesel_mercedes] Veggie 83 Mercedes 240D for sale.

 

Well my wife did it. She leased a Leaf. So My 240D which she drove has got to
go as well as my Ford Aspire electric conversion.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/3518441685.html Here is the Craigslist ad.
The car was involved in a rear end accident. I pulled it out a bit and put in
new tail lights. Runs like a top but looks like shit. The plant drive kit will
be included. The car has 215k, Bunt rims. Electric sunroof and roll up
windows. I've driven it for a year and a half like this. It does now have a
salvage title for obvious reasons. Lawrence Rhodes..

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: What type of power steering fluid works?

 

As do I (me). Works fine for many things.

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 8:55 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: What type of power steering fluid works?

 

As it says on the cap , ' use ONLY ATF " . (in German of course)

I use Dexron , same as the tranny .

-Nate
bigbopper98118 wrote:
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> By "works" of course I mean doesn't attack components.
>
> I searched the email archive for ages (well, over 30 minutes) and could find nothing that answers that question.
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re:Re : my fuel froze this morning

 

OK it didn't freeze,but the gas sure helped.It was a combination off things battery needs replacing,Primary filter was clogged,and injection pumpI ran pretty dry,till I found a place to pull over.
My fix new filter,primed 2nd filter,, and jump with equal battery in my S 320.Still haven't had time to charge drove 750 mile since Friday,dying Aunt,Sickly neice.Funeral tommow for Aunt.She went to sleep and never woke up,perfect for Cancer.Saturday will make a 1,000 miles.One trip with my S 250 miles 8.1 gallons
 
 
 
Tennessee Nate
From: "Mark in Lakewood, CO" <beeser750@q.com>
To: diesel mercedes <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re:Re : my fuel froze this morning
 
Where is "here"?We've had similar temps around the Denver area, and the old ironhead continues to fire up every morning.  Running pump diesel with about 2.5 gallons of waste transmission fluid per tank.  I also add Amsoil's Diesel additive, and tried some of their "Cold Flow Improver".  I cycle the plugs twice, pump the pedal twice, hold it off idle and start cranking.  I don't let off the starter until it is consistently running on all five for 15-seconds, then I let it warm up a little, maybe about a minute.  Takes about four minutes from the time I get in the car until it is ready to motor off.At work, I'm considered the "reliable guy" in no small part because I know I can count on the old battle wagon.  Once I'm at work, I'm the go-to guy for jump-starting fellow employees' as well as customers' cars.  (I've installed an 85-amp alternator from a Porsche 924.)Mark in Lakewood, CO
From: "Joe ONeill" <mnijfo@yahoo.com>To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 11:07:08 AMSubject: [diesel_mercedes] Re:Re : my fuel froze this morning  
It was 4* F here yesterday and my 91 300D (285K) fired on first try, as aways.  I too use Power Service Cetane Boost and add ~3-4 oz. to each fillup.  It has been hovering around 10* the last few mornings, so am happy all works well.

 

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[diesel_mercedes] 300cd

 

1983 Mercedes-Benz 300CD (Coupe Diesel) - All Records - Single Family - $12900 (Central TX) 178000 repainted.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/cto/3439140041.html

If I give the fusion to swmbo, sell the 300sd, maybe I could live with this one. VBG

(Nate (calif)are you selling cars in Texas now?)

Chuck
84 300sd

P.S. I would offer 10 for it.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re:Re : my fuel froze this morning

 

Where is "here"?

We've had similar temps around the Denver area, and the old ironhead continues to fire up every morning.  Running pump diesel with about 2.5 gallons of waste transmission fluid per tank.  I also add Amsoil's Diesel additive, and tried some of their "Cold Flow Improver".  I cycle the plugs twice, pump the pedal twice, hold it off idle and start cranking.  I don't let off the starter until it is consistently running on all five for 15-seconds, then I let it warm up a little, maybe about a minute.  Takes about four minutes from the time I get in the car until it is ready to motor off.

At work, I'm considered the "reliable guy" in no small part because I know I can count on the old battle wagon.  Once I'm at work, I'm the go-to guy for jump-starting fellow employees' as well as customers' cars.  (I've installed an 85-amp alternator from a Porsche 924.)

Mark in Lakewood, CO

From: "Joe ONeill" <mnijfo@yahoo.com>
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 11:07:08 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re:Re : my fuel froze this morning

 

It was 4* F here yesterday and my 91 300D (285K) fired on first try, as aways.  I too use Power Service Cetane Boost and add ~3-4 oz. to each fillup.  It has been hovering around 10* the last few mornings, so am happy all works well.

 

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Headlight Upgrade

 

The Germans/Europeans have it right.  It's hard to be tolerant of crappy lighting when you're winding your way through the Alps at 140mph or so....

Mark in Lakewood, CO

From: "Nate" <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 10:23:22 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re :  Headlight Upgrade

 


I'm using German Hella non DOT approved bulbs they're much brighter and better focused , the low beam cut off absolutely prevents dazzle to on coming traffic as the Germans are not so tolerant of crappy lighting as is the good old U.S. of A. =8-) . these are low wattage @ 60 W high beam so I can still use the original headlight switch .

-Nate
Stan wrote :
>
> On 1/4/2013 8:01 AM, Nate wrote:
> > For quick relief , simply roll the fuses in place as you watch the
> > headlights , if they flicker & come back on , you've found the trouble .
>
>
> Thanks Nate (and others). Not having any problems at all. Just
> thinking of upgrading head lights to higher wattage.
>
> --
> Stan George Portland <<
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : '77 240D W-123 $3,5K

 

Thank you very much. I still have not had a chance to go check it out. It is a dealer and they still have it available. I may check it out tomorrow morning -- I'll give them a call and make sure its cold. It's been about 30 degrees all this week as well so it should be a pretty good worst case scenario. 


Thank you very much for all of the tips and things to looks for. It's very helpful. 

Thanks
Dan

On Jan 4, 2013, at 11:45 AM, "Nate" <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

 


The mail thing (IMO) is the rust . you *MUST* get dirty and unload the ENTIRE trunk and remove the filthy old spare tire or you might miss a bad surprise , this is critical no matter how clean the rest of the car looks .

Underneath & behind the hood hinges is also a serious rust area , and battery tray etc. holes are a no - no , light surface rust can be halted by you in your driveway , DO NOT neglect to address any rust you find .

Unless you have a trusted local Diesel Mechanic , I'd not bother with a compression test as it requires special tools only Journeyman Diesel Mechanics will have .

Much easier is to go look at it as early in the day as possible and tell him you don't want it to have been started before you get there , if you touch the engine and it is warm , you'll walk away .

Then , when you get there and ascertain the engine is indeed cold to the touch , have him start it whilst you stand behind it and observe the exhaust ~ it'll smoke some but the smoke should stop as soon as it revs up .

If he's tricky and the engine is warm no worries , just look closer and suspiciously .

Once you've done the walk around as it's warming up , tested all the lights, wipers , horn , radio & heater , hazzard lights , doors for easy opening and closing etc. , take it for a test drive and don't spare it ~ it should shift fairly firmly ~ if the engine revs up as it upshifts , this indicates a problem that might not be terrible , it *might* need a $1,000 +/- tranny job , just make a mental note and finish the test drive with the lights and heater all going , when you stop , leave the engine running and pop the hood , take your clean rag out of your pocket and remove the oil cap as the engine is idling ~ loosen it but leave it sitting there on the engine ~ it's O.K. for the oil cap to dance and shake but if it jumps off , the engine has fairly serious blowby and needs some sort of attention ~ once again , if you otherwise like the car and are handy with tools , you might be able to make it *much* better in time as you tune and service it back to robust health .

The dirty intake screen isn't a deal killer , it should just be used along with bald tires , slippy tranny and visible smoke after it warms up , to leverage a good deal .

If it starts easily and runs / shifts / drives acceptably , you can make good use of it even if it drinks up oil every 1,000 miles .

For your use it sounds very good .

Best of luck , let us know how it went .

-Nate
Daniel wrote :
>
> Thank you Nate, this is really good info. I am going to go see it some time this week.
> On Dec 23, 2012, at 11:29 AM, "Nate" wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes , it's actually fairly commn to find these with passably low mileage , also be aware the odometers often break so go test drive it and ensure it logs a few miles , not just the speed you're going .
> >
> I will def. test to make sure that it is logging miles.
> >
> > *_IF_* it's legit , _AND_ you find NO RUST HOLES after COMPLETELY unloading the trunk and spare tire well , and looking closely in the corners underneath the hood hinge pockets , and , the oil filler cap doesn't get blown off if you loosen it with the engine idling , then it's prolly a very good deal indeed .
> >
> Good tips -- I will check the trunk, and the hinges, and the drain valves. I would want to have it inspected by a 3rd party mechanic. Would it be worth it to have the compression tested?
> >
> > BE AWARE : you cannot just jump in and go in these cars ! they need regular service and maintenance else it'll become unreliable and a money pit .
> >
> Yes, I realize this -- I know these w123s need to have the valves timed yearly. Is there any other routine maintenance (other than oil changes) that I need to watch out for?
> >
> > If you ever had an old VW Beetle and tuned it and adjusted those vlves a few times a year , this car will be easy and dirt cheap to maintain .
> >
> That is my hope.
> >
> > I see the fuel intake screen is dirty so I'm betting they didn't service it much , just cleaned it up really nice .
> >
> That makes me a bit scared.
> >
> > These cars are fairly slow and if you insist on flooring it to keep up , it'll die soon .
> >
> My commute is about 10 miles, mainly 45 MPH tops roads. This is to get me to and from work, no highways.
> >
> > 65 MPH MAXIMUM on the open Highway else it'll chug fuel and drink oil like crazy .
> >
> Yes.
> >
> > I have one of these and I love it for filing jamb packed with kids and SWMBO hen long distance travlig in it out of state but I also don't go batshitdriving 6 hours @ 60 MPH in the killing desert heat or feezing cold winter…
> >
> Great to hear. I'm in NC, so pretty easy climate on the car.
> >
> > I'd say give it a good close look but be aware , these cars are not for everyone .
> >
> Agreed.
> >
> > If it looks good and everything (AC !!) works O.K. but you find the usual rust holes underneath the spare tire , offer them $1,800 ~ $2,000 for it including tax and tags , this is the WORST time of year to sell cars so they'l proly jump at it .
> >
> That sounds like a fair offer, depending on condition. Anything else I should look for?
> >
> > -Nate
> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Valente wrote:
> > >
> > > Does this look too good to be true? Miles seem super low...
> > >
> > > http://www.cardinalautosales.com/vehicledetails.aspx?VID=165390001
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:45 PM, "J.O." wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a 1991 300D with 285K miles that I drive locally daily and on 500 mile trips periodically. It is a great ride and gets 31+MPG on the road trips and 28-29MPG aroulocal driving.
> > > >
> > > > I've had a 1984 300CD and a 1987 300D as well and prefer the W124 series (87-95) for dependability and comfort.
> > > >
> > > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "danvprod" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Folks --
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking forward to your help. Here is my situation. I am currently driving a 2003 Honda Element with 125k. I am looking to acquire either a w123 300d Turbo or w124 300d 2.5 turbo diesel to become my daily commuter to and from work.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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[diesel_mercedes] Re:Re : my fuel froze this morning

 

It was 4* F here yesterday and my 91 300D (285K) fired on first try, as aways.  I too use Power Service Cetane Boost and add ~3-4 oz. to each fillup.  It has been hovering around 10* the last few mornings, so am happy all works well.

 

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Headlight Upgrade

 


Then you certainly should use some relays ! .

There are many available kits , me i'd just buy some of those cube relays and wire them in and run a dedicated , fused hot wire of at least 1.5 MM directly from the battery to the relay , I'd mount the relay on the radiator core support .

If you hunt , you'll find these cube relays with plug in ATCO typ fuses as part of each relay .

The hot wire needs it's own fuse or circuit breaker right at the battery .

I'm using German Hella non DOT approved bulbs they're much brighter and better focused , the low beam cut off absolutely prevents dazzle to on coming traffic as the Germans are not so tolerant of crappy lighting as is the good old U.S. of A. =8-) . these are low wattage @ 60 W high beam so I can still use the original headlight switch .

For those on a budget , simply use # 2014 or 2016 seal beams these are truck headlights , significant improvement and they fit all DOT legal cars & trucks using 7" round seal beams .

-Nate
Stan wrote :
>
> On 1/4/2013 8:01 AM, Nate wrote:
> > For quick relief , simply roll the fuses in place as you watch the
> > headlights , if they flicker & come back on , you've found the trouble .
>
>
> Thanks Nate (and others). Not having any problems at all. Just
> thinking of upgrading head lights to higher wattage.
>
> --
> Stan George Portland <<
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : ! HEY !

 


I'd like to remind you : I am a _special_ nut job , not any random one =8-) .

-Nate
Taran wrote:
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> Thanks Brian. Just another case of a random nut-job stopping by to show everyone what a fool sounds like.
>
> Appreciate the kind words. Between work and kid I don't have a lot of free time these days, but I do like to see the group running smoothly. Happy New Year!
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe wrote:
> >
> > Taran is the HERO who started this group 11-12 years ago now. He was (and is) a superior person who moderates well and wisely. Don't know what the current brouhaha is all about.
> >
> >
> >  
> > brian from laverne, ca
> > Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
> > 1983 w123 300d's
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Nate
> > To: briankk ; "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com"
> > Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 6:48 AM
> > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Banned
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> > I don't get it .
> >
> > Oh well .
> >
> > Taran only occasionally ever shows up .
> >
> > I tried CC'ing your messages to the list , no joy .
> >
> > I'm sorry Brian .
> >
> > -Nate
> >  Â Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Brian Â  wrote :
> >
> >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >Here's the crux of the problem.  Although Yahoo says this is an unmoderated
> > >list, evidently someone called "Taran" is an actual moderator.  Since I'm
> > >banned, I can't send him mail to make him quit sending the list.
> > >
> > >
> > >What's got "Taran"'s panties in a bunch shall forever be a mystery, I guess..
> > >
> > >bk
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Rules & Banned

 


Thank you Taran ;

I seem to have missed quite a few messages .

I also know I've got a fairly short temper and when that mixes with my lack of sleep and general grumpieness , you have only gently chided me when I gor rude or go too far afield , I appreciate that courtesy .

-Nate
Taran wrote:
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> Nope, not an accident. I have zero tolerance for name-calling, and insulting the moderator is generally a great way to be shown the door. Basic manners required here.
>
> In case any one else encounters this problem, once a user is banned, they are also unsubscribed. So if they are getting messages after being banned, they are either subscribed using an additional account or Yahoo is having problems. Either way, they need to take it up with Yahoo support, nothing I can do about. Sadly, Yahoo support can't cure stupidity.
>
> Cheers all. Happy New Year!
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