[diesel_mercedes] Re : weekend work

 


FWIW ;

The electric motors in Tom's window lifts , worked just fine ~ he left them behind and I dropped them into the trash bin just to - night .

Thursday morning is trash day so if they're wanted , figure it out ASAP before they're gone forever .

I'm still waiting for Tom's comical writeup of my door repaid fun .

In the drizzle , dirt floor junkyard , against the clock , on and on...

-Nate
Tom wrote:
>
> Chuck,
>
> I'm fascinated by your comment about the window lift. Nate just
> replace the lift units in the driver's side front and rear doors (300SD). The
> plastic slide in the rear door had split. We couldn't see anyway for it to
> be a replacement part. So we P-a-P'd a 'new' rear lift.
>
> Were you able to replace just the plastic slide piece? If so, HOW did
> you get it over the large rivet head that it fits around?
>
> The 300SD front door lift had broken two rivets, rather than the
> plastic slide piece.
>
> Tom
>
>
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] weekend work

 

Chuck, 
 
    I'm fascinated by your comment about the window lift.  Nate just replace the lift units in the driver's side front and rear doors (300SD).  The plastic slide in the rear door had split.  We couldn't see anyway for it to be a replacement part.  So we P-a-P'd a 'new' rear lift. 
 
    Were you able to replace just the plastic slide piece?  If so, HOW did you get it over the large rivet head that it fits around? 
 
    The 300SD front door lift had broken two rivets, rather than the plastic slide piece. 
 
Tom 
 
In a message dated 12/20/2011 1:06:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jcrcpa@tx.rr.com writes:
 

On Sunday I finally repaired the rear window lift mechanism (the plastic slide had split in two)cheap part, my labor, also replaced the air cleaner mounts, replaced the two hood springs, and my aux fan switch arrived so that is next. Now I need to order the air cleaner mount bracket which has one end broken off, and a new antenna.

Chuck
84-300sd

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[diesel_mercedes] Power windows

 

I had a nonfunctioning front passenger side window. The nuisance
situation where the motor fails when the window is up so you can't pull
the whole assembly out. Thanks to an earlier post I replaced the motor
only by unscrewing the four bolts holding it to the spider gear
housing. I replaced the motor with a used one that I had in stock. The
motor worked and the window went up and down. Great! but there is a
downside (isn't there always) the battery started loosing charge. I
Pulled the door panel again and disconnected the motor at the terminal
block in the door. The battery drain stopped. I tested for current
flow to the terminal block with the ignition off and the window switch
in the normal position and found no current flow. I haven't reconnected
the motor but I assume that it is the problem. The question is with 12
volts to each terminal of the motor with ignition on and the teminals
alternately dropping to zero when the window switch is activated, how do
you test for a problem with the motor? Each of the motor leads shows
continuity to ground.

BTW I have a copy of the 1982 Electrical Trouble Shooting Manual MBNA #
SM1230 which covers in more detail sections of the wiring diagram,
components and location of each one with photos. This manual covers
240D, 300D & variations, 300SD, 380SL, 380SEL & SEC and Accessories for
all models. It has been a great help but it doesn't cover the problem I
am having with the window motor. Does anyone have any suggestions.

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[diesel_mercedes] weekend work

 

On Sunday I finally repaired the rear window lift mechanism (the plastic slide had split in two)cheap part, my labor, also replaced the air cleaner mounts, replaced the two hood springs, and my aux fan switch arrived so that is next. Now I need to order the air cleaner mount bracket which has one end broken off, and a new antenna.

Chuck
84-300sd

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Glow Plug Testing ~ the EASY Way

 

I just put my index finger on the tip of the glow plug and hold it there for 30 seconds (just joking in case someone is)
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:53 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Glow Plug Testing ~ the EASY Way
 


Or , as it's cold and maybe you like tools to play with , just buy a $19.95 Infra Red Thermometer from Harbor Freight Co. and shoot each glow plug when they're warm , either they'll all be the same temp. (good) or one or more will be cooler (bad and needing replacement)

-Nate
Lawrence Rhodes Wrote :

You must test each glow plug. I measured a used but good plug and it registered .9 ohm. Take off the relay cover & pull the connector out to test or disconnect each one at the plug. Test with a multimeter. If the relay is connected you won't get a good test. All the glow plugs must be good to get the motor to start well. Lawrence Rhodes......



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[diesel_mercedes] Glow Plug Testing ~ the EASY Way

 



Or , as it's cold and maybe you like tools to play with , just buy a $19.95 Infra Red Thermometer from Harbor Freight Co. and shoot each glow plug when they're warm , either they'll all be the same temp. (good) or one or more will be cooler (bad and needing replacement)

-Nate
Lawrence Rhodes Wrote :

You must test each glow plug. I measured a used but good plug and it registered .9 ohm. Take off the relay cover & pull the connector out to test or disconnect each one at the plug. Test with a multimeter. If the relay is connected you won't get a good test. All the glow plugs must be good to get the motor to start well. Lawrence Rhodes......

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Leak Found and Fixed (temporary)

 


Good deal Chip ;

Be aware that steam cleaning is very bad for the whole electrical system , next time use the cold de greaser and the garden hose , you'll be happier in the long run .

Remember to use W-107 exhaust donuts , they're ' lifetime ' and cannot possibly ever break .

-Nate
Chip wrote:
>
> My car went up on the rack this morning, with me inside, while my mechanic stood underneath. He had me bring my rpm's up to 2,000 and hold it and within minutes he found the leak.
>
> The large oil hose that runs from my filter to the top of my radiator had been sliced by the fan belt, and I know when it happened.
>
> As I was coming into Mongomery, Alabama a big truck pulled up really short in from of me and caused me to need to brake hard. During that hard braking I lost 3 of my four doughnuts that hold my muffler in place as I noticed rattling just after starting to pull off from that quick stop. I pulled over shortly there after and noticed some engine oil under the hood.
>
> Things must have slipped enough in the engine compartment to have allowed the fan belt to contact the hose. I had him also check my motor mounts, which are new, and they seemed fine.
>
> The fix will be temporary for the hose with a splice and a connector placed where the cut was, but it should allow me to get back to Texas and order a proper hose.
>
> Thanks from so many on this board for help and assistance. It took the rpm's to allow the leak to show up.
>
> I am having the undercarrage and motor steam cleaned before I pick the car up, as I had noted being worried about all that oil on the rubber stuff under the car.
>
> Chip
> Windsor, NC
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Glow Plug Warning Lamp

 


It's underneath the dash , I always pull the entire binnacle out as I have fairly large hands .

You'll need to unscrew the speedo cable and un hook the metal oil pressure line , then it slides out to - wards you and you can gently wiggle the round MPC connector for all those wires off and take it into the Kitchen & clean out the accumulated dust so it lights up brighter at night , then replace pretty much ALL the various bulbs as it's not a job you want to do again just for a crummy .50 Cent bulb .

-Nate
"bigbopper98118" <bigbopper98118@...> wrote:
>
> I found the glow-plug relay; it's far forward on the left side, and the cover pops off, so you can access the 80 Amp fuse and access the multi-pin connectors.
>
> I was lazy, and tried starting it by just waiting to see if it would start--and it did; I just waited ~30 seconds, and it then started without any throttle.
>
> Two people tried starting it and, not noticing the glow-plug light didn't light, proceeded to crank it as though it had cycled--that makes three dim bulbs!
>
> Any idea how hard it is to get at the glow-plug light bulb?
>
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Emergency Breakdown Help. Leak Found and Fixed (temporary)

 

Congratulations. Easy is good.
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Stan George Portland <<

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Emergency Breakdown Help. Leak Found and Fixed (temporary)

 

Great. Not only did you find your issue, but we all waited with intense anxiety to find out which theory would win. I think hoses and fittings are the two main culprits for sudden oil, fuel, and water losses, so was happy to hear your issue solved. Nice that they are also relatively cheap fixes too.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 7:06 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Emergency Breakdown Help. Leak Found and Fixed (temporary)
 
My car went up on the rack this morning, with me inside, while my mechanic stood underneath. He had me bring my rpm's up to 2,000 and hold it and within minutes he found the leak.

The large oil hose that runs from my filter to the top of my radiator had been sliced by the fan belt, and I know when it happened.

As I was coming into Mongomery, Alabama a big truck pulled up really short in from of me and caused me to need to brake hard. During that hard braking I lost 3 of my four doughnuts that hold my muffler in place as I noticed rattling just after starting to pull off from that quick stop. I pulled over shortly there after and noticed some engine oil under the hood.

Things must have slipped enough in the engine compartment to have allowed the fan belt to contact the hose. I had him also check my motor mounts, which are new, and they seemed fine.

The fix will be temporary for the hose with a splice and a connector placed where the cut was, but it should allow me to get back to Texas and order a proper hose.

Thanks from so many on this board for help and assistance. It took the rpm's to allow the leak to show up.

I am having the undercarrage and motor steam cleaned before I pick the car up, as I had noted being worried about all that oil on the rubber stuff under the car.

Chip
Windsor, NC



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Emergency Breakdown Help. Leak Found and Fixed (temporary)

 

Sounds like your motor mounts are gone, ought to have the mechanic look at that too, you may need to chain the engine down to drive home.  Literally chain the engine down, so that it doesn't walk around under the hood while you are trying to get it home...

bk

--- On Tue, 12/20/11, Chip <czulli@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Emergency Breakdown Help. Leak Found and Fixed (temporary)
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 7:06 AM

 

My car went up on the rack this morning, with me inside, while my mechanic stood underneath. He had me bring my rpm's up to 2,000 and hold it and within minutes he found the leak.

The large oil hose that runs from my filter to the top of my radiator had been sliced by the fan belt, and I know when it happened.

As I was coming into Mongomery, Alabama a big truck pulled up really short in from of me and caused me to need to brake hard. During that hard braking I lost 3 of my four doughnuts that hold my muffler in place as I noticed rattling just after starting to pull off from that quick stop. I pulled over shortly there after and noticed some engine oil under the hood.

Things must have slipped enough in the engine compartment to have allowed the fan belt to contact the hose. I had him also check my motor mounts, which are new, and they seemed fine.

The fix will be temporary for the hose with a splice and a connector placed where the cut was, but it should allow me to get back to Texas and order a proper hose.

Thanks from so many on this board for help and assistance. It took the rpm's to allow the leak to show up.

I am having the undercarrage and motor steam cleaned before I pick the car up, as I had noted being worried about all that oil on the rubber stuff under the car.

Chip
Windsor, NC

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Ontario CA PAP today/No start

 

You must test each glow plug.  I measured a used but good plug and it registered .9 ohm.  Take off the relay cover & pull the connector out to test or disconnect each one at the plug. Test with a multimeter.  If the relay is connected you won't get a good test.  All the glow plugs must be good to get the motor to start well.  Lawrence Rhodes......

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Emergency Breakdown Help. Leak Found and Fixed (temporary)

 

Texas had snow I'd leave oil on it for salt on the roads.Then steam clean in Texas.

From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:06 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Emergency Breakdown Help. Leak Found and Fixed (temporary)
 
My car went up on the rack this morning, with me inside, while my mechanic stood underneath. He had me bring my rpm's up to 2,000 and hold it and within minutes he found the leak.

The large oil hose that runs from my filter to the top of my radiator had been sliced by the fan belt, and I know when it happened.

As I was coming into Mongomery, Alabama a big truck pulled up really short in from of me and caused me to need to brake hard. During that hard braking I lost 3 of my four doughnuts that hold my muffler in place as I noticed rattling just after starting to pull off from that quick stop. I pulled over shortly there after and noticed some engine oil under the hood.

Things must have slipped enough in the engine compartment to have allowed the fan belt to contact the hose. I had him also check my motor mounts, which are new, and they seemed fine.

The fix will be temporary for the hose with a splice and a connector placed where the cut was, but it should allow me to get back to Texas and order a proper hose.

Thanks from so many on this board for help and assistance. It took the rpm's to allow the leak to show up.

I am having the undercarrage and motor steam cleaned before I pick the car up, as I had noted being worried about all that oil on the rubber stuff under the car.

Chip
Windsor, NC



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