Re: [diesel_mercedes] Will seats from 86 300SDL fit my 83 300SD?

 

Caitlin, 
 
    I've just looked through the 1997 Mercedes Chassis / Body Service Manual for w126 vehicles.  The Seats are covered in Vol. 2, Sec. 91. 
 
    The "removal / installation" section talks about removing and installing front and rear seats.  the manual makes NO distinction for seats of different years.  It doesn't say that some years have different sizes or fittings. 
 
    If you are familiar with them, you will know that later years got fancier controls, including powered headrest height adjustment. 
 
    But the basic fitting seems to be all the same.  The easiest way to get seats in and out is with the mounting bolts to the floor.  DO NOT try to take them off the adjusting sliders - instead, take the whole seat assembly out.  There are four bolts, one at each side at the front and one at each side in the back.  Then there is a sliding rail, along the inside of each front seat (I think it is part of the safety equipment), and the seat belt anchor on the inside. 
 
    The 126 seats are DIFFERENT from the 123 seats.   
 
    The book also does NOT mention any difference between the 126 and 126L versions. 
 
    But, if you are aware of them, the gasser 'L' cars had rear seats that had a semi-reclining mechanism.  I think that it is the same basic seat, but with a recliner mechanism in the rear.  If it's the same basic seat, it comes out very easily, (MUCH easier than the fronts), and you can just scrap the reclining gear set up. 
 
Tom 
 
 
In a message dated 7/4/2013 6:02:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tinymachine@gmail.com writes:
 

Hi folks...I am still here, and now that some life things are calming down its time to get back to work on ole Betty.

Saw some seats for sale nearby on CL. They are from a 86 300SDL W126. I have a 83 300SD W126. The current seats I have appear to be from a W123 and arent in great shape and the rear doesn't even seem to be properly installed. The price on these are good so I am wondering if they are a fit.

Thank you!
Caitlin in Santa Fe
83 300SD

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Will seats from 86 300SDL fit my 83 300SD?

 


Hi Caitlin ;

WELCOME HOME ! .

Wasn't it your mustard yellow Mercedes ? .

That was a W-123 , not a W-126 .

That I know of ,there are at least two different types of W-123 seats , both electrical and some interchangability between them .

You'd best be certain what chassis you have then remove the old seats & toss them in Keith's truck to motorvate over to wherever the new seats are being sold and match up the mounting points before parting with any lolly .

-Nate
Caitlin wrote :
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> Hi folks...I am still here, and now that some life things are calming down its time to get back to work on ole Betty.
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> Saw some seats for sale nearby on CL. They are from a 86 300SDL W126. I have a 83 300SD W126. The current seats I have appear to be from a W123 and arent in great shape and the rear doesn't even seem to be properly installed. The price on these are good so I am wondering if they are a fit.
>
> Thank you!
> Caitlin in Santa Fe
> 83 300SD
>

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[diesel_mercedes] wont shift into park

 


Always remember :

K.I.S.S. ! .

'won't shift into park' is -VERY- different than ' won't start in park but starts O.K. in neutral ' ! .

If it truly won't shift into park , the very firsdt thing I'd do is remove the ash tray and *gently* slide the shifter surround back until the easy to break pin on the rear most edge of it is loose so it pops up 1/4" , then CAREFULLY work the connections loose from the window switches and hazard light and electric mirror switches as applicable before removing the cover and looking to see what came loose and jammed the shifter from moving all the way forward .

You may remember an old ammoco TV commercial that showed two monkeys in coveralls beating on an automatic tranny with baseball bats ~ that was in fact , an internal , secret ammoco training film showing *exactly* what those idiots to to your car if you're foolish enough to allow them to touch it .

-Nate


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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Fuel Tank 1981 grey mkt 300D

 


What's wrong with your current tank ? .

Try cragislist too , there's always someone breaking a W-123 for parts , tanks almost never sell before crushing for scrap .

I'd offer to remove it from the junker and take along a strong flashlight to peer inside with , you don't want to buy a rusty tank .

Remember : 240D's fuel tanks are smaller than are 300D's .

-Nate
Devon wrote :
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> i hope you are correct, thanks for the tip.
> -dw
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> devon warner
> san francisco, CA USA
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> From: Nate <vwnate1@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 6:38 AM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: looking for a fuel tank for my 1981 grey mkt 300d
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> I didn't notice any difference in the tanks between gray market and U.S. version tanks.... ? .
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> There are several Pick-A-Parts right across the bay from you , every time I've ben in them , there are *pristine* gray market W123 Diesels .
> -Nate
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> > people, does anyone have a lead for me, or the exact part laying around in your own stash?
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> > my mechanic can get me one, but the cost is way way too much.
> > Grazie,
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> > devon warner
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Red Max Pro wax job - almost 1 year later

 


I understand the longevity issue but , wax works best in a cumulative fashion ~ you wax it one or two times a year and occasionally wash it , then the paint is effectively sealed and remains bright and shiny for decades .

I _wish_ I could still make repetitive circular motions ~ just reaching my arm out is likely to ruin my day pain wise .

-Nate
Steve wrote :
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> Wash sooner than the fall. Its been raining almost non stop here this spring and still going into summer.
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> It will get a followup coat of wax before winter even though I am tempted to see how long it will last with out a redo.
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> Steve
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> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
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> > Very good Steve ! .
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> > Thanx for the update .
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> > I assume you'll be washing it and adding another coat of wax this Fall ? .
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> > -Nate
> > Steve wrote :
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> > > Here is a pic of my roof, pealing clear coat, after the Red Max Pro, wax job last Aug/Sept.
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> > > The car has not been washed or rewaxed since other than nature, rain and snow, and its been through a NH winter.
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> > > Looks pretty good to me, I dont know of any other wax that lasts this long.
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> > > Pic in the photo section of the group, or by using the URL below.
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> > > http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/215526/sn/1389136810/name/IMG_0666.jpg
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[diesel_mercedes] Will seats from 86 300SDL fit my 83 300SD?

 

Hi folks...I am still here, and now that some life things are calming down its time to get back to work on ole Betty.

Saw some seats for sale nearby on CL. They are from a 86 300SDL W126. I have a 83 300SD W126. The current seats I have appear to be from a W123 and arent in great shape and the rear doesn't even seem to be properly installed. The price on these are good so I am wondering if they are a fit.

Thank you!
Caitlin in Santa Fe
83 300SD

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Car wont shift into park

 

    How about the neutral safety switch.  When loosened, it can be adjusted in place. 
 
    If it can be adjusted in place, the natural assumption might be that it can get misadjusted during driving. 
 
Tom 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/4/2013 10:53:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bstromsoe@yahoo.com writes:
 

Did you ever resolve this issue? If so, what did it turn out to be?

brian from la verne

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Kevlog6" <kevlog6@...> wrote:
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> I have a 84 300d which has not been going into park for quite a while, i have to move it to neutral to start it, otherwise it drives great.
> Any idea what this is? Is it the bushing or possibly the parking pawl? I brought it to aamco and they were useless. Thanks all for your help
>

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Car wont shift into park

 

I googled this; here are some ideas.  Bill in Corvallis

 

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1583443-starts-neutral-doesnt-start-park.html

 

http://voices.yahoo.com/mercedes-e320-wont-crank-neutral-safety-switch-bypass-7164056.html

 

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/325056-will-only-start-neutral.html


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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Car wont shift into park

 

 

Did you ever resolve this issue? If so, what did it turn out to be?

brian from la verne
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--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Kevlog6" <kevlog6@...> wrote:
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> I have a 84 300d which has not been going into park for quite a while, i have to move it to neutral to start it, otherwise it drives great.
> Any idea what this is? Is it the bushing or possibly the parking pawl? I brought it to aamco and they were useless. Thanks all for your help
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Car wont shift into park

 

Did you ever resolve this issue? If so, what did it turn out to be?

brian from la verne

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Kevlog6" <kevlog6@...> wrote:
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> I have a 84 300d which has not been going into park for quite a while, i have to move it to neutral to start it, otherwise it drives great.
> Any idea what this is? Is it the bushing or possibly the parking pawl? I brought it to aamco and they were useless. Thanks all for your help
>

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