Re: [diesel_mercedes] glow plug problem

 

If the dash light didn't come on you should suspect that at least two plugs are dead. And maybe three. There is a relay and control box under the hood on the left inner fender well near the left headlight - about 12 inches back from the headlight. It should b3 under a plastic form fitted cover. It has two plugs - one with smaller-ish wires and one with 5 larger-ish ones. The plug with the 5 larger wires is the feed for the glow plugs themselves. You will need to unplug that plug to test the glow plugs individually. Their resistance is near zero ohms to begin with so an ohm meter will only help detect an open plug. A shorted plug will likely blow the big fuse at the "rear" end of the relay. The best way to test them is with a DC ammeter under power. Each working plug should pull between 8 and 12 amps. A wire from the battery through an ammeter and to each plug, one at a time, is the best way to find a bad glow plug. But be sure to disconnect the feed plug
first.

bogy.

--- On Thu, 2/7/13, bmwsid sidcranston@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: bmwsid sidcranston@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] glow plug problem
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 12:39 AM
>   I tried to start my '85 
> TD  yesterday.  I saw the indicator on the dash
> did not light up, and it wouldn't start.  Obviously,
> the glow plugs didn't heat up, either.  Is there a
> relay that needs to be looked at, and where would it
> be?  The voltage in the battery is OK so it is not the
> problem.
>          Sid, near Niagara
> Falls.
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[diesel_mercedes] glow plug problem

 

I tried to start my '85 TD yesterday. I saw the indicator on the dash did not light up, and it wouldn't start. Obviously, the glow plugs didn't heat up, either. Is there a relay that needs to be looked at, and where would it be? The voltage in the battery is OK so it is not the problem.
Sid, near Niagara Falls.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] '84 300 SD Silvia - on the road again....

 

Well, I thought of you when I loaded my new Java today, even though your paycheck may come from elsewhere nowadays.

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Barton <barton.fiske@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:28 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] '84 300 SD Silvia - on the road again....

 
...well, the path of least resistance wins again - my last post about Silvia said she had too much valve slop discovered during a routine valve adjustment. Thank goodness for 2nd opinions. I had the good fortune to befriend a local diesel mechanic who was so intrigued with my plight that he made a house call. Long story short, yes, there is some valve slop on #2 exhaust valve, but not out of reason for 285k mi. He put the wrenches in the right places, got the valve train adjusted to spec and we're driving again. 6 weeks of angst worrying about a head job and the only head job I got was 6 weeks of needless worry.

Thanks to everyone for your comments and offers of help/support - over and out for now....

Barton



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[diesel_mercedes] '84 300 SD Silvia - on the road again....

 

...well, the path of least resistance wins again - my last post about Silvia said she had too much valve slop discovered during a routine valve adjustment. Thank goodness for 2nd opinions. I had the good fortune to befriend a local diesel mechanic who was so intrigued with my plight that he made a house call. Long story short, yes, there is some valve slop on #2 exhaust valve, but not out of reason for 285k mi. He put the wrenches in the right places, got the valve train adjusted to spec and we're driving again. 6 weeks of angst worrying about a head job and the only head job I got was 6 weeks of needless worry.

Thanks to everyone for your comments and offers of help/support - over and out for now....

Barton

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Wheels for 300 TD

 

Well, I can also do it minus the tires. We used to manufacture rims from 13" to 17" by the multiplied millions for GM, Ford, and Chrysler plants in the Los Angeles area. So I can measure them from the flat pieces of steel (rim) or the square piece of steel (spider) that was welded together (or riveted for larger truck rims). Four things stand out in my memory from those days:  1) when I shoved some steel into a guys chest (he survived); 2) When I stacked 10,000 lbs of steel off center and it crashed with an earthshaking roar; 3) when I dropped a wheel on my toe twice in a week; and 4) when I was stacking 3 pallets of wheels for storage and the bottom pallet broke causing 100-150 wheels to come tumbling down (being young and spry, I rolled off the forklift and hid until the noise stopped - then it was off to the hospital for a walking cast.

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 1:57 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Wheels for 300 TD

 

Correct Boyd ! .

How many people other than I do you know who'll take the time to buy tires by the O.D. ? .

Most folks will say " it doesn't make any difference " ~ they're dead wrong .

-Nate
Boyd wrote :
>
> You should not hinder the acelleration if you reduce the height of the tire.  Am I wrong?
>
>
> Boyd
>
> From: Nate
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 5:14 PM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Wheels for 300 TD
>
>  
>
> As mentioned ;
>
> 14" tires are cheap & plentiful .
>
> Of course if you want 15" wheels that's fine too , just be aware they'll seriously hinder your acelleration....
>
> -Nate
> Houston wrote :
> >
> > Long time reader here with a question, I'm have a '85 300 TD with factory 14" rims that I want to change over to 15" Mercedes rims (can't find 14" tires anymore). What ofter years and models will fit?
> >
>



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Wheels for 300 TD

 

Nate, you must be my age.  I remember that from high school.  Don't think they cover that anymore.
 
Boyd
From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:57 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Wheels for 300 TD
 

Correct Boyd ! .

How many people other than I do you know who'll take the time to buy tires by the O.D. ? .

Most folks will say " it doesn't make any difference " ~ they're dead wrong .

-Nate
Boyd wrote :
>
> You should not hinder the acelleration if you reduce the height of the tire.  Am I wrong?
>
>
> Boyd
>
> From: Nate
> To: mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 5:14 PM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Wheels for 300 TD
>
>  
>
> As mentioned ;
>
> 14" tires are cheap & plentiful .
>
> Of course if you want 15" wheels that's fine too , just be aware they'll seriously hinder your acelleration....
>
> -Nate
> Houston wrote :
> >
> > Long time reader here with a question, I'm have a '85 300 TD with factory 14" rims that I want to change over to 15" Mercedes rims (can't find 14" tires anymore). What ofter years and models will fit?
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Window problems

 


As you stated you can make the windows work by applying 12 VDC to the switch plugs .

IIRC , the windows have the power run directly to them and the switches operate the ground paths...

This one should be fun if frustrating to figure out .

-Nate
Kevin wrote :
>
> The connections are clean. Yea, the switches are new. Don't think there is
> a problem there.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:24 AM, n61cm wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > It must be something between the switch and where you have jumpered.
> >
> > Did you test the switch resistance to make sure they are working? I doubt
> > if new switches are bad...
> >
> > Maybe the connector(s) have crud in them?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Seuferer wrote:
> > >
> > > My other problem with my 85 300D is the windows.
> > >
> > > I have jumpered from the battery to the connections in the center
> > console.
> > > All 4 windows will roll up and down by applying 12 volts from the battery
> > > directly to the wires in the center console. I have replaced both sets of
> > > window switches with BRAND NEW switches. When I turn the key on, I get 12
> > > volts on the front terminal of the front window switches. Yet, I cannot
> > > make the windows go up and down with the switches. All of the fuses are
> > > brand new.
> > >
> > > Grounding problem possibly?
> > >
> > > Any suggestions would be helpful.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kevin
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Wheels for 300 TD

 


Correct Boyd ! .

How many people other than I do you know who'll take the time to buy tires by the O.D. ? .

Most folks will say " it doesn't make any difference " ~ they're dead wrong .

-Nate
Boyd wrote :
>
> You should not hinder the acelleration if you reduce the height of the tire.  Am I wrong?
>
>
> Boyd
>
> From: Nate
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 5:14 PM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Wheels for 300 TD
>
>  
>
> As mentioned ;
>
> 14" tires are cheap & plentiful .
>
> Of course if you want 15" wheels that's fine too , just be aware they'll seriously hinder your acelleration....
>
> -Nate
> Houston wrote :
> >
> > Long time reader here with a question, I'm have a '85 300 TD with factory 14" rims that I want to change over to 15" Mercedes rims (can't find 14" tires anymore). What ofter years and models will fit?
> >
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : THANK YOU !

 

Possibly Tom at the Classic Center could come up with one.

Mark in Lakewood, CO
From: "Mag" <magconsulting2@yahoo.com>
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:45:29 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : THANK YOU !

 

Anyone know of someone that carries pitman arms for an 83 300D?



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On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:00 AM, "Nate" <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

 


I got them from The Shock Warehouse.com for $20 less than anywhere else , including shipping , $163 the pair for HD as I won't wa$te one penny I don't need to and so far , I've never yet worn out any Bilsteins so they're very good Dollar Value to me .

Yes , I try _really_ hard to wear them out but no luck so far .

One of these dayze I really need to creat a parts supplier folder , you alls collectively have shared so many good vendors over the years .

Feel free to hijack any thread I'm on just *PLEASE* ~ _always_ change the subject box so we can find it again later .

-Nate
Mark wrote :
>
> AutoZone sell the Bilsteins at right around $100 a pop for the rear of the W123 CDs through their VDP (Vender Direct Parts) program. They'll have them next day if ordered in the morning.
>
>
> I see they have KYB Gas-A-Justs at about $70 for this application.
>
>
>
> http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/1981-Mercedes-Benz-300CD/Shock-Strut-Rear/_/N-ilqq5Z8oxxx
>
>
> Nate in California is right: Monroes/Gabriels are OK, but, to hijack a phrase: "Bilstein: There is no substitute."
>
>
> Mark in Lakewood, CO
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Exhaust Manafold to down pipe connection question

 

That actually makes sense now that I am thinking back to when I was under there last time to put the springs in, which may now come out.
I did make some adjustments to the bracket you mention so I could locate the pipe more towards the center of its route.

Been sick for a week so I have not had a chance to see if its leaking at my spring fix.

Many Thanks !

Steve

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Alan Boucher wrote:
>
> Actually the way I think it works is the pipe from the manifold is fixed to
> the transmission by the bracket there. Effectively there is no need for a
> flex connection between those two points. The pipe after that flexes in
> the hangers to absorb the rotation of the engine/transmission.
>
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Steve Parolin wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Many Thanks.
> > No springs and no flex pipe, that's what I also.
> > I put springs on last weekend, I don't know if its me, but I think its
> > louder than when it was loose, as there is no way it can be louder based on
> > how loose it was. I am edging just being me being paranoid, but will do a
> > check this weekend to see whats up.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "David Starbuck" wrote:
> > >
> > > I was working on it yesterday. No flex pipe on mine.
> > > -David
> > >
> > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Parolin" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Its an 84, but not a US model.
> > > > No Turbo, antenna on the front fender, no sun roof. Most of the time
> > when I am looking for parts I tell the guy behind the counter its an 80.
> > The guys a the stealership are confused by my VIN #, non US compliant.
> > > >
> > > > The down pipe is for an 80, it matched with I pulled off, no flex
> > coupling on it. 1 piece, solid.
> > > >
> > > > Does your pipe from the manafold to the resonator pipe have the flex
> > peice on it ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "David Starbuck" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > > What year is yours? Mine is a 79 300D, no springs on mine.
> > > > > -David
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Parolin" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 300D, non turbo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I dont have spring bolts at the junction between the Exhaust
> > manafold and the down pipe, I beleive there should be, none of the chains,
> > nor my online searches have turned up spring bolts or anything else for
> > this junction.
> > > > > > I have straight through bolts, and they have to be re-tightened
> > every six months or so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What doese everyone else have ?
> > > > > > Bolts, Studs, Bolts with springs, studs with springs.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Pitman Arm 1983 300D

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380306202137

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mag
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:45 PM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : THANK YOU !

 

Anyone know of someone that carries pitman arms for an 83 300D?

 

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Wheels for 300 TD

 



I'm mounted 16s on my w126,to lower hwy mpg,it will hurt take off but hell shes a diesel.Every inch you add to tire height reduces rpms by 200.

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