Re: [diesel_mercedes] W-123 Master Cylinder Died

 

Once you disconnect the lines from the master cylinder, there may be a little dribble, but mostly it's downhill from the flare nut. I reconnected mine once and when I reconnected them I just pushed the pads in on one front and one rear wheel and that forced the air at the top of the lines back into the master cylinder where they found the top of the cylinder and then the port to the reservoir. A few pumps on the pedal to bring everything tight and the job was done.

It just never made sense to me trying to push an air bubble downhill.

BTW. I got this idea from my 75 300D sedan, on which someone had installed a 240D manual transmission, and on which the bleeding procedure was to run a hose from the clutch cylinder bleeder to each of the wheel cylinders and, after purging the hose, pump the clutch until no more air showed up in the master cylinder reservoir. IIRC, they both used the same reservoir so it was self replenishing. When done you shut off the last brake bleeder and the clutch bleeder and emptied the hose either into the reservoir or the trash can and topped off the tank. 

My current setup involves a check valve on a short piece of hose that fits tightly over the bleeder nipples. Then a long piece of clear hose from the other end of the check valve that is long enough to reach from the right rear brake to the brake reservoir. The other end of the long clear hose goes back into the reservoir. You sit and pump the brakes watching the clear hose and when there are no more bubbles passing through the hose the job is done.

FWIW,
Bogy.





On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:36 PM, "vwnate1@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes]" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:





What's going on in Arizona Max ? .

It'll go easily , I'll flush and then drain the hydraulic system first , then place some plastic bags underneath the master , put a clean absorbent rag over the plastic so if I drip any brake fluid it won't hit the paint and cause rusting .

The actual R & R of the master is dead simple , two 13 MM ATF nuts and three 11 MM flare nuts on the brake pipes IIRC , swap over the resivoir off the car  re install and then fill and pressure bleed it , should take only a couple hours including setting up the jack stands and flushing out the old brake fluid .

I have a dedicated 7 MM 6 point combination wrench I bought specifically to bleed German cars' brakes ,it's got a bend in the ring end I really like for easy access .

I also just got a new bleeder bottle , with a wider mouth so I can keep two different size rubber bleeder hoses in it at all times .

Maybe I'll spring for the <magic> M-B factory DOT 4 brake fluid , they sell it at my local Partshaus .
As soon as I get this done it's back to my Morris Minor , I discovered loose front end parts , mostly  due to 50 year old rotted away rubber bushings so now it all comes apart and gets de rusted , wire brushed and re painted gloss black  before fitment of new bushings .

I hope my Morry Parts Supplier has polyurethane bushings in stock to - morrow .

I also need to go borrow an engine hoist so I can yank the driveline and begin major servicing of it .

-Nate
        Max  wrote :

Summer of master cylinders. Let me know how it goes. One of my twins is here taking care of me this summer, he told me to order one and he would put it in. You going for Arizona? Maz


 




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[diesel_mercedes] W-123 Master Cylinder Died

 


What's going on in Arizona Max ? .

It'll go easily , I'll flush and then drain the hydraulic system first , then place some plastic bags underneath the master , put a clean absorbent rag over the plastic so if I drip any brake fluid it won't hit the paint and cause rusting .

The actual R & R of the master is dead simple , two 13 MM ATF nuts and three 11 MM flare nuts on the brake pipes IIRC , swap over the resivoir off the car  re install and then fill and pressure bleed it , should take only a couple hours including setting up the jack stands and flushing out the old brake fluid .

I have a dedicated 7 MM 6 point combination wrench I bought specifically to bleed German cars' brakes ,it's got a bend in the ring end I really like for easy access .

I also just got a new bleeder bottle , with a wider mouth so I can keep two different size rubber bleeder hoses in it at all times .

Maybe I'll spring for the <magic> M-B factory DOT 4 brake fluid , they sell it at my local Partshaus .
As soon as I get this done it's back to my Morris Minor , I discovered loose front end parts , mostly  due to 50 year old rotted away rubber bushings so now it all comes apart and gets de rusted , wire brushed and re painted gloss black  before fitment of new bushings .

I hope my Morry Parts Supplier has polyurethane bushings in stock to - morrow .

I also need to go borrow an engine hoist so I can yank the driveline and begin major servicing of it .

-Nate
        Max  wrote :

Summer of master cylinders. Let me know how it goes. One of my twins is here taking care of me this summer, he told me to order one and he would put it in. You going for Arizona? Maz


 

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I dunno ;

I have three of these things and don't keep sharp records of what I replace ~ I just try hard to keep 'em in good nick as I drive all of them a lot .

Sigh .

Tom says I replaced his W-126 master cylinder last Summer , maybe that's what I was thinking of

-Nate



       Mark wrote :

Maybe it's still under warranty?

Mark

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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Master Cylinder Died

 

It's all you guys fault ! .

You were talking about master cylinders and mine failed esterday , it began slowly sinking as I waited for a red light , would hold O.K. if I pressed hard on the brake pedal .

To - day I took it out for a haircut and take SWMBO to lunch , after two hours it bothered me so much I swapped it for my Metropolitan and parked it in front of my garage so I can replace it as soon as the new one I ordered up last night comes in , prolly Monday or tuesday .

I blame YOU ! =8-) .

(didn't I replace it a couple years ago ?) .

-Nate


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[diesel_mercedes] injector line clips

 

Anyone know where I can get the vibration clips?  I need a full set for a 4cyl.

The basket case is officially on the road.  There are still a lot of piddling things that need attention, bolting the dashboard the rest of the way in for starters, But I got everything working and ready for new tires and a sticker.

Haven't checked the brakes yet.  Almost afraid to.

OH!  What's the deal with the fog lights?  They work if I jump them at the headlight switch, but where is the dang fog switch?  The biggest problem with this car, they apparently had a melt down in the lighting system (behind the instrument panel) and rewired it kind of hinky.  Took me 4 days to get all the lights working.

The glow plug timer/relay was blown out so I just put it on a button with a ford starter relay. one one thousand, two one thousand...   :o)
I'm pretty happy about saving 80 bucks.  Hopefully, I can teach the wife to use it.

Thanks
Fred..

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Summer of master cylinders. Let me know how it goes. One of my twins is here taking care of me this summer, he told me to order one and he would put it in. You going for Arizona? Maz


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 6:11 PM, vwnate1@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


It's all you guys fault ! .

You were talking about master cylinders and mine failed esterday , it began slowly sinking as I waited for a red light , would hold O.K. if I pressed hard on the brake pedal .

To - day I took it out for a haircut and take SWMBO to lunch , after two hours it bothered me so much I swapped it for my Metropolitan and parked it in front of my garage so I can replace it as soon as the new one I ordered up last night comes in , prolly Monday or tuesday .

I blame YOU ! =8-) .

(didn't I replace it a couple years ago ?) .

-Nate





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