i looked at the fuse box, the fellow said the headlights and sunroof had stopped working. in the fuse box, a bunch of those metal covered snap in boxes to the rear of the fuses were missing. so i looked at the firewall to point out an example of what was missing to the fellow, and a foot away to the center between the sound capsule and the firewall, there was a plastic bracket with the female slots, missing 2 modules. unless that was a diagnostic socket, i think someone looted this guys car of some electrics componetry. he claims to know very little about the car, but has had a few knowledgeable shade trees come by and give him a minor educatelette, then lowball him bellow the belt. i wonder if someone grabbed a handful of electro tin when he was perusing the ozone. he claims to know nothing about fuses or anything. he said if i was serious, he would put a battery in and start it, but also said he was reluctant to add fuel because, apparently, that leak we discussed is more like a tributary than a weep or drip. when prompted, and offered the info you folks gave me, it sounded right to him, he said he thinks he recalled being told it was rottolla over the sub and around frame fuel line mounts. i believe we went over the subject of starting a long sitting car back in 2007, but i forgot, what to do to bypass this fuel line schtick, often used when starting cars to prevent fuel contaminants from getting in the injector pump. if i recall right, is there a rubber hose on the injector pump that can be taken off, and a longer hose put on, then stuck in a mayonnaise jar sitting pretty on the inside fender? like, diesel purge instructions, maybe? 'stick a jar on the fuel supply to stop spill, stick new supply hose in purge jar'. in this care, i'd need two jars, one for drip, other to fill with diesel.. can you cut a hole in a bottle cap, squeeze the hose in there, screw shut, and drive the car while on the bottle?
btw, is it the fuel lines in both directions that go? (delivery and return? .
weird, that he'd know nothing of electrics, but be willing to put the Camry battery in, or is that the minimal a male knows how to do? point in hand, being that this is not an appropriate battery to put in there. or is it ok for a temp? to start a two year outdoor storage diesel??
or at least to check new fuses/modules to see if lights go on, sunroof opens, etc?
other wise car was clean, very minimal rust, clean interior, a few cracks on dash and stretch marks on seat. nothing worse than what you'd find on a woman of comparable age :-)
dash disassembly for stereo theft that looks fixable, clean rust free trunk, lower edges of rear window free of fogging.
what are these modules missing in the fuse box and firewall? mucho expensive? pap fare? i think he'd put the battery in at least to get all new fuses in to check the electrics, but not yet start car. that'd be the next step. i think he won't mind letting me pop over there and fiddle with these things to be sure i am comfortable b4 taking car. he says he doesn't need the car gone. and i think he felt burnt by the low ballers. i have time to fidget and decide. He knows i have time. i think he feels ok with me doing for the car what he has no time or knowledge to do.
i am trying to see whether i trust that this guy is clueless, but patient and willing to work with me, or if he is just acting clueless to cover up worse issues with car. i don't think he'd be willing to let me fidget with it over there to take baby steps to get it going if he had a corpse up his sleeve. i said to him that if i were to get car in slightly better shape for him, at the least, and i decided not to take it, it would be easier for him to get someone else to take it. these minor parts are cheap enough, fuses, used modules, rubber/metal fuel lines, no battery till engine is bottle started and run and ac proves to work. the guy even picked me up today and took me over to look at the car and brought me back.... so in a way, he is making it much less of a risk for me to decide, and in return, i may lower the list of bugaboos that scare off other potential buyers or take the wind out of low ballers. i'd think we'd be easing issues for each other. Heck, maybe he'd even keep it.... i'd just be happy to be around one for a while. on the other hand, i am no mechanic, i'd hate to cause a liability issue...
i gather if i were to rent ramps and stands for a day, and borrow a pipe cutter, i could get under there do the fuel line. He said the leak was on the left side, just forward the rear wheel, and he said another low balling shadetree told him that was the world famous rotty metal fuel line location. i guess it would be best to put just enough fuel in there for a drip just to confirm where the leak is and to confirm it is not the rubber lines between the tank and steel lines. where exactly would those rubber lines drip? probably best to do rubber and metal all at once.
i wouldn't fiddle with the fuel lines without confirming electrics are ok and running the engine off a bottle long enough to see if the AC works as he claims it does.
also, if this tank sat empty, does that change the fungus dynamics? how so?
and do i also recall someone saying that there is someone making better bullet fuses for these cars now? where to get them?
Meanwhile, right now, i myself am very annoyed at the insurance companies. i live in new jersey. i got phone quotes, that were then sent to me via email, but in the email, the quotes were a couple hundred over what was stated on the phone. i have forgotten what companies were suggested for classics, etc, by the members here. please, don't get me wrong, i save everything i deem important you folks recommend, but my last attempt at this was 2 blown hard drives ago.
so,
access your opinions;
head to tails of wires
replace fuses,
replace modules;
test electrics off battery
install battery, bottles, to bottle start/drive
confirm ac works
wet tank, confirm leak(metal/rubber)
raise rear, fix fuel line.
decide if i want it, or if i just did a mitzva.(kind act)
give you guys a break
:-)
[diesel_mercedes] looked at 300sdl/wiring/modules/fuel line etc
[diesel_mercedes] Google Invites ?
What the heck is this ? .
I doubt very much I want one but I'm curious .
-Nate
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Diesel purge. 83 240D.
That's because the return is under slight pressure so it creates turbulence in the jar .
Remember to put a NAPA/WIX # 3011 filter in the return hose ! else you'll be sucking dirt and spooge back into your IP & injectors .
It is critical to vary the engine speeds so the rack in the IP it moved to it's various positions and gets fully cleaned out .
-Nate
Max wrote:
>
> When I did this I could not believe how much fuel came back in the return line. It seemed like more than it was sucking up. Max
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well ;
> >
> > You have to alternately rev & idle the engine a bunch as @ idle it *sips* fuel frugally .
> >
> > Yes , this takes a while but not 30 minutes .
> >
> > You do have *BOTH* hoses in the jar , correct ? .
> > One for the feed side , t'other to return to the jar .
> >
> > -Nate
> > Barry wrote:
> > >
> > > Today I ran a can, the page said that it would burn it up in about 15min, but it was pumping fuel
> > > Though the engine and back in the jar after 30min. I turned it of changed the filters does anyone think my fuel pump may not be making enough pressure? After twenty min, I tryed vice grips on the cigar hose to slow down the flow but it still would get by and fill the jar will just keep
> > > The same level in the jar, dose the pump build up pressure or dose it just flow though?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> >
>
[diesel_mercedes] Re: '83 300D Suspension noise. with video. '83 300D Suspension noise. with video.
Well ;
If the robber boot is ripped on anything , spray some lube in there and bounce it some more ~ if the noise abates or stops , !BINGO! .
-Nate
Dean wrote:
>
> On 7/14/2011 5:47 AM, c24052000 wrote:
> > Dean, did you check the power steering fluid?
> > Chuck
> >
> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Dean Chandler<deanstud@> wrote:
> >> Link to video
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqOh1q8J1zM&feature=youtube_gdata
>
> I did check the PS. Off another site, they thought maybe lower ball
> joint, since they saw it was ripped and some evidence of a rust cloud in
> the video.
>
> So, I went under there again and forced the noise. the vibration and
> sound seems to be coming from where the track rod connects to the lower
> control arm..............
>
> --
> -Dean E. Chandler
> '86 SDL
> '83 300D
> -=KE7TWY=-
> Cornelius, Oregon
> deanstud@...
>
Re: [diesel_mercedes] I have Google + Invites
On 7/18/2011 5:41 PM, eric peterson wrote:
Is it curable with penicillin? If so I'd like oneChipYes I'd like an invite
From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 5:27 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] I have Google + Invites
Let me know if you are interested in getting one of these invites for Google +.
Chip
Houston
Al Boucher
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Diesel purge. 83 240D.
When I did this I could not believe how much fuel came back in the return line. It seemed like more than it was sucking up. Max
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
>
> Well ;
>
> You have to alternately rev & idle the engine a bunch as @ idle it *sips* fuel frugally .
>
> Yes , this takes a while but not 30 minutes .
>
> You do have *BOTH* hoses in the jar , correct ? .
> One for the feed side , t'other to return to the jar .
>
> -Nate
> Barry wrote:
> >
> > Today I ran a can, the page said that it would burn it up in about 15min, but it was pumping fuel
> > Though the engine and back in the jar after 30min. I turned it of changed the filters does anyone think my fuel pump may not be making enough pressure? After twenty min, I tryed vice grips on the cigar hose to slow down the flow but it still would get by and fill the jar will just keep
> > The same level in the jar, dose the pump build up pressure or dose it just flow though?
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
>
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: '83 300D Suspension noise. with video. '83 300D Suspension noise. wi
On 7/19/2011 6:11 PM, Nate wrote:
There is also another pivot point that Mercedes sells a repair kit for. That point on my 560SEL is moaning softly, I guess I'll have to massage it.
That sure sounds like a dry pivot , maybe ball joint , maybe tie rod end .
Could be just the upper A Arm bushing needs some Rubber Lube or silicone sprayed into it .
-Nate
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Aleph93 <aleph93@...> wrote:
>
> Dean,
>
> It's hard to follow the indy film, I was waiting for a gremlin or
> something to jump out.
> Does that sound occur both when turning the wheel and when just pushing
> up and down on the car?
> Just to check the easy things first, hows the ATF level and color in the
> power steering pump, and how about belt tension?
>
>
> Rob
> '85 300D
> Garden Grove, CA
>
> On 7/12/11 1:15 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > '83 300D Suspension noise. with video. '83 300D Suspension noise. wi
> > Posted by: "Dean Chandler"deanstud@... deanstud
> > Date: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:23 pm ((PDT))
> >
> > Link to video
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqOh1q8J1zM&feature=youtube_gdata
> >
> > My wife came home and told me the car was making a weird noise. I went
> > out to look and OMG that is the most awful noise I have ever heard from
> > a car.
> >
> > The video pretty much enplanes it all. Its last "LOF" was about 4k miles
> > ago, I don't know how much L is included in the LOF, but it was at a non
> > dealer Mercedes Benz friendly shop, where the car was always serviced
> > before I got it.
> >
> > Also, as said in the video, the "front end" was rebuilt @ 298k miles in
> > 10/09.
> >
> > upper/lower control arms/bushings, tie rods, idler arm.
> > __________________
> >
> > -- -Dean E. Chandler '86 SDL '83 300D -=KE7TWY=- Cornelius, Oregon
> > deanstud@...
>
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Diesel purge. 83 240D.
Well ;
You have to alternately rev & idle the engine a bunch as @ idle it *sips* fuel frugally .
Yes , this takes a while but not 30 minutes .
You do have *BOTH* hoses in the jar , correct ? .
One for the feed side , t'other to return to the jar .
-Nate
Barry wrote:
>
> Today I ran a can, the page said that it would burn it up in about 15min, but it was pumping fuel
> Though the engine and back in the jar after 30min. I turned it of changed the filters does anyone think my fuel pump may not be making enough pressure? After twenty min, I tryed vice grips on the cigar hose to slow down the flow but it still would get by and fill the jar will just keep
> The same level in the jar, dose the pump build up pressure or dose it just flow though?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
[diesel_mercedes] Re: '83 300D Suspension noise. with video. '83 300D Suspension noise. wi
That sure sounds like a dry pivot , maybe ball joint , maybe tie rod end .
Could be just the upper A Arm bushing needs some Rubber Lube or silicone sprayed into it .
-Nate
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Aleph93 <aleph93@...> wrote:
>
> Dean,
>
> It's hard to follow the indy film, I was waiting for a gremlin or
> something to jump out.
> Does that sound occur both when turning the wheel and when just pushing
> up and down on the car?
> Just to check the easy things first, hows the ATF level and color in the
> power steering pump, and how about belt tension?
>
>
> Rob
> '85 300D
> Garden Grove, CA
>
> On 7/12/11 1:15 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > '83 300D Suspension noise. with video. '83 300D Suspension noise. wi
> > Posted by: "Dean Chandler"deanstud@... deanstud
> > Date: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:23 pm ((PDT))
> >
> > Link to video
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqOh1q8J1zM&feature=youtube_gdata
> >
> > My wife came home and told me the car was making a weird noise. I went
> > out to look and OMG that is the most awful noise I have ever heard from
> > a car.
> >
> > The video pretty much enplanes it all. Its last "LOF" was about 4k miles
> > ago, I don't know how much L is included in the LOF, but it was at a non
> > dealer Mercedes Benz friendly shop, where the car was always serviced
> > before I got it.
> >
> > Also, as said in the video, the "front end" was rebuilt @ 298k miles in
> > 10/09.
> >
> > upper/lower control arms/bushings, tie rods, idler arm.
> > __________________
> >
> > -- -Dean E. Chandler '86 SDL '83 300D -=KE7TWY=- Cornelius, Oregon
> > deanstud@...
>
Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300D Parts
On 7/19/2011 1:52 PM, BStromsoe wrote:
You could put the parts on her side of the bed.I am salivating, but have no room and my wife would leave me.brian from la verne, ca
From: Alan Boucher <alstheone@verizon.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300D Parts
1985 300D Last call for body parts. New windshield, all good panels
from front doors back. It's going to the wreckers by the end of the
week. Car is in lower NY State. Call me at 845-534-9092.
Al Boucher
Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300D Parts
From: Alan Boucher <alstheone@verizon.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300D Parts
from front doors back. It's going to the wreckers by the end of the
week. Car is in lower NY State. Call me at 845-534-9092.
Al Boucher
[diesel_mercedes] 1985 300D Parts
1985 300D Last call for body parts. New windshield, all good panels
from front doors back. It's going to the wreckers by the end of the
week. Car is in lower NY State. Call me at 845-534-9092.
Al Boucher
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: '83 300D Suspension noise. with video. '83 300D Suspension noise
it looked like to me the shock tower or spring perch was moving away from body.Needs a good weld. --- On Tue, 7/19/11, Aleph93 <aleph93@ca.rr.com> wrote:
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