[diesel_mercedes] Re: Whoops- different trannys

 

I haven't taken the torque converter off yet, so thanks for the heads up on that. I finished pulling the first tranny last night and seem to remember that the output shaft of the transmission had spindles- but now that I'm thinking on it more- I only took one look and it was late and I had to pack up and go. Now all of a sudden I'm thinking the torque converter stayed on the flywheel on the first transmission, and stayed with the tranny on the second transmission, so that looking quickly one would looked spindled, or geared, and the other because of the torque converter, just have the nub that fits into the flywheel. Ok then- I'm back on track. Feeling just a little dumb. You all can erase this post if you like, but if it's still up and all goes well tomorrow I'll confirm.
Thanks
Mike
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Bogy Wan Kenobi <polespearbogy@...> wrote:
>
> If you haven't already then "it's too late" . . . but - you should always keep the torque converter ON the tranny input shaft. this is so that the seals keep their seat. In reality I've let them slip off a time or two and no obvious adverse consequences. Also, I don't know what you mean by "spindles" vs. "smooth nub". Which end of the tranny are you referring to by that. The output shaft should have one of those round rubber guibo connectors. Can you be more specific.
>
> Bogy
>
> --- On Thu, 3/17/11, MichaelA <mappley66@...> wrote:
>
> From: MichaelA <mappley66@...>
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Whoops- different trannys
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:56 PM
>
> My mom blew her trann on her SD, not sure of the year, so I dropped it and then just got done dropping my dads tranny from his parts car which is an 83 SD, and noticed the driveshafts are different. The one from my moms car has spindles, and the one from my dads has a smooth nub.
> This is my first try at transmissions- are we just out of luck?
> Should I swap flywheels? Should I swap torque converters?
> Little help, please.
> Mike
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Whoops- different trannys

 

If you haven't already then "it's too late" . . . but - you should always keep the torque converter ON the tranny input shaft. this is so that the seals keep their seat. In reality I've let them slip off a time or two and no obvious adverse consequences. Also, I don't know what you mean by "spindles" vs. "smooth nub". Which end of the tranny are you referring to by that. The output shaft should have one of those round rubber guibo connectors. Can you be more specific.

Bogy

--- On Thu, 3/17/11, MichaelA <mappley66@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: MichaelA <mappley66@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Whoops- different trannys
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:56 PM

My mom blew her trann on her SD, not sure of the year, so I dropped it and then just got done dropping my dads tranny from his parts car which is an 83 SD, and noticed the driveshafts are different. The one from my moms car has spindles, and the one from my dads has a smooth nub.
This is my first try at transmissions- are we just out of luck?
Should I swap flywheels? Should I swap torque converters?
Little help, please.
Mike


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Split boot that might work.

 

I also noted their (Dorman) Expansion Plug catalog (freeze plugs) which has many hundreds of thousands of  rubber, copper, steel, and brass plugs for your browsing enjoyment.
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:39:38 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Split boot that might work.

 

http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-11984-614-632.aspx
I wasn't able to measure the inner lip but the shaft size is ok.  I measured it
as one inch.  My inside inner  lip is currently covered.  Any one got a
measurement for it(Nate).  Hope it is around 3 inches.  Lawrence Rhodes........


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Split boot that might work.

 

That looks interesting. What is the cost?
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:39:38 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Split boot that might work.

 

http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-11984-614-632.aspx
I wasn't able to measure the inner lip but the shaft size is ok.  I measured it
as one inch.  My inside inner  lip is currently covered.  Any one got a
measurement for it(Nate).  Hope it is around 3 inches.  Lawrence Rhodes........


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[diesel_mercedes] Gasket for thermostat

 

I ordered the Autohaus AZ thermostat and glow plugs with a gasket for the
thermostat. The gasket looks nothing like the thermostat housing. Are the two
rubber parts gaskets all I need or do I need the paper gasket? Lawrence
Rhodes.....

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[diesel_mercedes] Labor hours to replace lower ball joint ?

 

Any one know how many hours a shop will bill me for to replace one lower ball joint ? How about if I need the upper also ?

I know the lower is on its way, boot is dry rotted and it was dry and groaning, squirt of Liquid Wrench quited it down for a few bounces.

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[diesel_mercedes] Whoops- different trannys

 

My mom blew her trann on her SD, not sure of the year, so I dropped it and then just got done dropping my dads tranny from his parts car which is an 83 SD, and noticed the driveshafts are different. The one from my moms car has spindles, and the one from my dads has a smooth nub.
This is my first try at transmissions- are we just out of luck?
Should I swap flywheels? Should I swap torque converters?
Little help, please.
Mike

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] lug nut torque for alloy wheels

 

Last time I asked re alloy wheels the guy looked it up in the book and said 80 ftlbs of torque (I think - dble check). You can stop by any Walmart auto or Goodyear tire and they will look it up for you. I think it is in the manual too.
 
brian from la verne, ca


From: bigbopper98118 <bigbopper98118@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 2:31:52 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] lug nut torque for alloy wheels

 

Searched for this info but got no hits.

Went through the first volume of the manual in the files; still no joy!

What do people think?


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[diesel_mercedes] Split boot that might work.

 

http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-11984-614-632.aspx
I wasn't able to measure the inner lip but the shaft size is ok.  I measured it
as one inch.  My inside inner  lip is currently covered.  Any one got a
measurement for it(Nate).  Hope it is around 3 inches.  Lawrence Rhodes........

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[diesel_mercedes] lug nut torque for alloy wheels

 

Searched for this info but got no hits.

Went through the first volume of the manual in the files; still no joy!

What do people think?

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Type A ATF follow up

 

OK I thought type a and f were for older auto,and without detergents.

--- On Thu, 3/17/11, Stan George <ssgkag@frontier.com> wrote:

From: Stan George <ssgkag@frontier.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Type A ATF follow up
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 11:43 AM

 
On 3/17/2011 9:31 AM, Nate Rector wrote:
> I usally use type f if no MMO around

Type F was developed for FORD auto transmissions and contains MORE
friction enhancers than Dexron. Borg Warner T-35 trannys in many
European cars (Jag etc.) require Type F.

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On 3/17/2011 9:31 AM, Nate Rector wrote:
> I usally use type f if no MMO around

Type F was developed for FORD auto transmissions and contains MORE
friction enhancers than Dexron. Borg Warner T-35 trannys in many
European cars (Jag etc.) require Type F.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Type A ATF follow up

 

I usally use type f if no MMO around

--- On Thu, 3/17/11, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Type A ATF follow up
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 10:29 AM

 

Thanx Doug ;

Here in So. Cal. , I'm always stopping into Dollar Stores as they tend to have oddball stuff cheaply , no ATF or any kind for about 5 years now...... =8-( .

-Nate
Doug wrote:
>
> Gents, Someone said that Type A Automatic Transmission fluid is hard to find,,yES , because its not commonly sold at auto parts stores anymore, but many Dollar Stores, an grocery stores still sell it, an its cheap, about $2 a quart.
>
> Type A,, its not for modern transmissions, but a simple fluid for the transmissions of the 1940s an 50s, IE,, very simple transmissions, that only required a light weight oil with detergents.
>
> Forget who, but someone got off into Ford an Dexron types,of fluids,, NO, NEVER put those into engines, not in the crankcase or fuel.. They do contain various types of friction modifier chemicals, other chemicals,, an NO DOUBT would cause some problems in Fuel Injection pumps an maybe injectors, even engine valves too. May even blow the tips off your injectors too.
>
> Type A is a very simple lite weight oil with lots of detergents. Chemically its almost the same as 2 cycle small engine oil, but lots cheaper, sold in quarts. Many companies sell type A as 2 cycle oil, the cheaper brands such as sold in dollar stores.
>
> On the other hand, I would never use type A in my 2 cycle engine fuel mix, mainly because of the levels of alcohol put into gasoline these days, do not think the type A would mix well with current gasoline, an excessive wear would result.. piston scuffing for sure.
>
> It can be used safely, for an additive too Diesel fuel, especially if a few gallons of gasoline has been accidentally added to the fuel tank.
>
> I would not use it long term ,,for my baby 300d, just as a temp fix for some gasoline in the fuel tank, or an emergency fuel to get me to the next Diesel fuel stop..
>
> Type A can be a problem, as it contains about 50% more detergents, than Diesel fuel, if you have a very dirty fuel tank, it will clean the tank an the fuel filters will stop up,, most likely.
>
> An Last but not least, as I said before, Never add type A to the engine oil of a diesel, its too thin, an could cause rapid wear to various engine bearings.
>
> Doug Traylor 300d
> Baytown, TX
>


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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Type A ATF follow up

 


Thanx Doug ;

Here in So. Cal. , I'm always stopping into Dollar Stores as they tend to have oddball stuff cheaply , no ATF or any kind for about 5 years now...... =8-( .

-Nate
Doug wrote:
>
> Gents, Someone said that Type A Automatic Transmission fluid is hard to find,,yES , because its not commonly sold at auto parts stores anymore, but many Dollar Stores, an grocery stores still sell it, an its cheap, about $2 a quart.
>
> Type A,, its not for modern transmissions, but a simple fluid for the transmissions of the 1940s an 50s, IE,, very simple transmissions, that only required a light weight oil with detergents.
>
> Forget who, but someone got off into Ford an Dexron types,of fluids,, NO, NEVER put those into engines, not in the crankcase or fuel.. They do contain various types of friction modifier chemicals, other chemicals,, an NO DOUBT would cause some problems in Fuel Injection pumps an maybe injectors, even engine valves too. May even blow the tips off your injectors too.
>
> Type A is a very simple lite weight oil with lots of detergents. Chemically its almost the same as 2 cycle small engine oil, but lots cheaper, sold in quarts. Many companies sell type A as 2 cycle oil, the cheaper brands such as sold in dollar stores.
>
> On the other hand, I would never use type A in my 2 cycle engine fuel mix, mainly because of the levels of alcohol put into gasoline these days, do not think the type A would mix well with current gasoline, an excessive wear would result.. piston scuffing for sure.
>
> It can be used safely, for an additive too Diesel fuel, especially if a few gallons of gasoline has been accidentally added to the fuel tank.
>
> I would not use it long term ,,for my baby 300d, just as a temp fix for some gasoline in the fuel tank, or an emergency fuel to get me to the next Diesel fuel stop..
>
> Type A can be a problem, as it contains about 50% more detergents, than Diesel fuel, if you have a very dirty fuel tank, it will clean the tank an the fuel filters will stop up,, most likely.
>
> An Last but not least, as I said before, Never add type A to the engine oil of a diesel, its too thin, an could cause rapid wear to various engine bearings.
>
> Doug Traylor 300d
> Baytown, TX
>

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