[diesel_mercedes] Diesel Kleen Cetane Boost

 



I put about 4 Oz. in every fillup and I generally run to the low fuel lamp coming on as that helps keep crud from accumulating in the fuel tank .

You can add more and feel the extra power but a little bit goes a long way here .

I hope you're doing well ? anything new on the twins ? .

-Nate
         Brian   wrote :

silver for summer, white for winter.  1/4 jug every fill up. It's like "an apple a day keeps the doctor away"

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Rubber Produtcs , Winwods Etc.

 



I've been working on old cars since I was in short pants and German cars since the late 1960's , I'm ' Yankee Thrifty ' (cheap) so I try to use the good stuff whenever it's important and keeping the water out , even here in the Desert ir paramount if you want it to last .

I don't see many 110's in the junkyards , keep hunting though .

-Nate
        Dexter   wrote :

Thanks for your input Nate. Tom has been recommended a few times now so I'm almost certain I'll get my parts from him. 

-Dexter

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Date:Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 10:52 PM
Subject:[diesel_mercedes] Rubber Produtcs , Winwods Etc.

 

Dexter ;

I've been a German car mechanic for over 40 years and I can tell you one thing for certain :

ALWAYS use the OEM German made rubbers ! at the very least on the windshield and back glass grommets .

I know the price differential is large but trust me here ~ the cheaper ones don't last long and after they begin to leak in a tear or two in spite of always parking inside your garage so they don't get much sun , you'll be seriously P.O.'d .

I see someone else had already posted Tom's E-mail , also a like to Peach Parts who also sells original Mercedes rubber , Tom @ The Classic Center will be the better price once you figure in shipping and it'll be faster and fresher too .

I'm a (damn) Yankee Farm Boy born and bred so when I get up off a dime , you can believe it's well worth every penny .

-Nate


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[diesel_mercedes] Tranny ' Flaring '

 



Alan ;

A HOT tranny and torque converter flush and fill with new gasket should have been you first thing to do .

I was recently suggested to try " TRANS-X " additive and I did , it seems to have noticeably improved the shifting .

There are three or four different bottles , I didn't know which one to use so I grabbed the silver quart bottle that looks like an ATF bottle , I've been using it to top up the weepy tranny on my '82 240D , it still drips the same but shifts firmer .

-Nate
      Alan   wrote :

At this point anything is possible, I haven't done anything on the trans yet.  Thanks for the suggestions.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:37 PM, 'Mark in Lakewood, CO' beeser750@... [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

That could be due to old, thick fluid or a dirty transmission filter.

Mark


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Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Tranny ' Flaring '

 

Seems to be primarily on the first shift up after starting off.  I haven't driven it more than around town and not above about 50 MPH.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:48 PM, 'Mark in Lakewood, CO' beeser750@... [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Is it flaring between all shifts, or only between specific gears?

 

Mark

        Al   wrote :


sounds great.  I recently purchased a 265,000 mi 85 300SD.  Starts good runs good interior is something of a mess and I have to rework the rear windows so that they operate.  They are both disconnected internally.  A winter job. That and a brake job.  My main problem is that the engine revs unduly at the shifts.  I think there is a relatively simple remedy for this but I can't remember what it is .  Can anyone help?

 




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[diesel_mercedes] Power Service ' Diesel Kleen '

 



That's it Max .

Also very good to prevent gelling of the Diesel fuel at this time of year....

Properly tuned engines should start and run after 3/4 to one full revolution .

This $aves the battery , starter and also extends overall engine life .

-Nate
      Max   wrote :

Cetane boost. And I think lubricating qualities too. I have a 300 gallon tank I use for my generator and tractor and I started to notice the generator was starting harder. I remembered the fuel was about 6 or 7 years old so I added some of that stuff. It worked, easier starting. Max

 

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[diesel_mercedes] Diesel Soot

 



If the back light is dirty but the cove isn't , the dirt isn't coming out the tail pipe Max .

-Nate
       Max  wrote :

Neither of my 240's smoke that you can see at all. Still I get  black when I clean the back windows, which I hardly never do, Just looking for input on the VW scandal. Even if my cars are truly "dirtier per mile" than the average, doesnt matter to me as I only drive about once a week, 50 miles. Max 

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, vwnate1@... [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



I dunno max ~

Until recently the 240D never smoked and didn't accumulate smoot on the back of the car atall .

Back in the 1960's I remember the buses belching out dense black clouds and was always told , even by the SMOG guys , that Diesel smoke was inert , almost completely soot .

I hate the smoke and smoot but a well tuned diesel engine doesn't smoke unless you force it to by full throttle under load .

my '84/'85 Europen wagon goes like stink and never soots at all .

-Nate
        Max   wrote :

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-analysis-dozens-deaths-likely-vw-pollution-dodge-125026628.html#


I wonder how many folks we are knocking off driving our cars. I have noticed when I wash my rear windows the paper towel comes out black. Max ps, still driving my 2 240's

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There's no picture here.......

The like to E-Bay only had 115 parts , 123 are different and apparently vary over the various years .

Still looking and accepting help ! .

TIA ,

-Nate
       Bill   wrote :

Is this the 240D throttle rod(s)?

Here is an eBay search:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=mercedes+240D+throttle&_sop=15

 

Which one is this picture?

 


From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com ]
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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] OM616 (four cylinder) Part

 

I need the black plastic cover that hides the vacuum switches on top of the rocker box .

It is slightly different from the OM617's I have spares of .

Also , one of the throttle rods is maybe  damaged , it appears to be designed to extend a bit but it's been jammed .

" Idle Path Rod " .

I'd love some decent diagrams for the 1982 240D's switchover valves , not in my factory service manual .

As always , I will travel to get these parts , pay for them and take them off your greasy old junk engine or dig through your parts boxes....

TIA ,

- Nate

 







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[diesel_mercedes] Cylinder Head Works [3 Attachments]

 
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Tom's 300SDL  with OM603 engine was leaking coolant and occasionally running warm , in time (3,200 miles from home)  it became clear the cylinder head was bad so I began hunting for a replacement one .

These InLine 6 cylinder Diesel engines came with a defective cylinder head from new , few still have the original head , Tom's did and it failed although it lasted some 200,000 miles .

Step one : find a same year , same color , decent condition car for a donor , must have the latest and greatest version of the cylinder head on it . .

Finding one with the improved # 022 head already 1/2 removed was nice , this saved me serious labor .

The # 6 cylinder looked like it might have coolant leaks in it but the Machine Shop pressure tested it and said it's fine , they did a valve job and installed all new valve stem oil seals and new improved bucket typ cam followers sourced from The Mercedes Classic Center , transferred the cam from Tom's car as the new (used,#22 replacement improved) head had a bad camshaft  and returned it to us , the car should be buttoned up and running this week .

Best of all , the $uper $pendy new head only co$t us $35 (!) as the junkyard had not a care what it was , just another 28 year old Mercedes wreck *:x lovestruck .

After the valve job , gaskets and so on , it will not have been a inexpen$ive repair but less than 1/3 the price of having a shop find us a good used head ~ the cheapest used head I'd been able to find was still $700 + freight , only warrantied to be crack free , not a fresh valve job nor the all important valve stem oil seals , they prevent exhaust smoking .

Meanwhilst Tom's old '81 300SD has been pressed back into daily service .

-Nate



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[diesel_mercedes] Been Busy [2 Attachments]

 
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With life and various things but not long ago I was in a junkyard and found a filthy but unworn driver's side carpet in matching Palomino color for my old Mercedes , bought it and dragged it home .

here are the before and first pass with cleaner photos .

I've forgotten what I cleaned it with  , my hands , a super soft bristle brush and a water hose .

Maybe Simple Green ? .

-Nate


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[diesel_mercedes] Injection Pump Questions - OM617 (5 cylinder turbocharged)

 


THANX Bill ! .

I only saw one good pic , in the video from the New York (? accent) guy , he shows two MW pumps sitting and they both have a bracket under neath with 6 MM holes , maybe I was looking in the wrong area for the rear support .

-Nate
       Bill  wrote :

Here is the Service Manual for the 617 on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oOwZI-m-g

 

Other video that may help find that hidden bolt:

https://www.google.com/#tbm=vid&q=remove+injection+pump+Mercedes+5+cylinder

 

 

General information on wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM617

 

"But it never rains in Southern California " - Barry Manilow


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Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 9:54 PM
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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Injection Pump Questions ?

 

Anyone here ever change one ? .

It looks like my turn in the barrel , I was trying to take a good one off a wreck to - day but there's a hidden support bolt under the rear of the pump (I think)  ~ I couldn't get it loose .

Felt like maybe a 5 or 6 MM hex cap screw ? .

OM617 (5 cylinder turbocharged) and this pump was on a California spec. model and had some box thing on the inner side of the IP , it has a two wire electrical harness coming out of it , my '84 doesn't so I wondered if it'd work anyway .

It looks like the car will be crushed to - morrow morning , IP still in it but I know i'll find another one ere long and just want to know how to get it loose after the three 13MM ATF nuts are removed .

TIA , - Nate

(at least the rain held off until I was washed up and driving home , then it came in sheets for 15 minutes or so)

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Injection Pump Questions - OM617 (5 cylinder turbocharged)

 

Here is the Service Manual for the 617 on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oOwZI-m-g

 

Other video that may help find that hidden bolt:

https://www.google.com/#tbm=vid&q=remove+injection+pump+Mercedes+5+cylinder

 

 

General information on wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM617

 

“But it never rains in Southern California” - Barry Manilow


From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 9:54 PM
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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Injection Pump Questions ?

 

Anyone here ever change one ? .

It looks like my turn in the barrel , I was trying to take a good one off a wreck to - day but there's a hidden support bolt under the rear of the pump (I think)  ~ I couldn't get it loose .

Felt like maybe a 5 or 6 MM hex cap screw ? .

OM617 (5 cylinder turbocharged) and this pump was on a California spec. model and had some box thing on the inner side of the IP , it has a two wire electrical harness coming out of it , my '84 doesn't so I wondered if it'd work anyway .

It looks like the car will be crushed to - morrow morning , IP still in it but I know i'll find another one ere long and just want to know how to get it loose after the three 13MM ATF nuts are removed .

TIA , -Nate

(at least the rain held off until I was washed up and driving home , then it came in sheets for 15 minutes or so)

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