[diesel_mercedes] Re : battery dead/ no power

 


This is the usual failure mode for Auto batteries but before you $pend on a new battery ;

Get some typ of voltimiter and check it whilst it's running ~ Wally-Mart has those nifty charging gauges you plug into the cigarette lighter and it'll tell you how much it's charging , or you can cheap out and go to Harbor Freight and buy a $3.95 multi -meter , it'll do the same job , just a bit more difficulty is using it .

In any case , what you want to see is : over 13 VDC as you slowly rev. the engine up with the lights etc. off . if it remains at or below 13 VDC , the alternator brushes are probably worn out , this is a super simple fix you can do at home if you're handy with tools .

It's the perfect time to get the correct BOSCH brand # 1 197 311 028 voltage regulator (the brushes come with it , the only way to replace them) , it takes under one hour to install it and this one will out charge _ANY_ of the ones you get with the rebuilt $100 + alternator no matter what the lying sack behind the counter says .

O,T.O.H. , if it shows 13 + VDC as soon as you rev. the engine a little bit (NEVER race the engine !) , I'd say the battery is likely kaputi .

Wally-Mart had the best price for the _correct_ battery , many Auto Parts Stores tried to sell me a Volvo Diesel battery , it's wrong and bad for your car .

-Nate
Kevlog6 wrote:
>
> I had a few things replaced on my 84 300d and it was firing up just fine. i replaced the battery last fall. yesterday i took it out for a ride, fired right up and drove it 10 miles, parked it for about 4 hours and came back out and it was dead. i jumped it and drive it back 10 miles. turned it off and no power at all, not even any lights coming on. today i did the same, jumped it and let it run for about 45 mins. turned it off and nothing. any suggestions?
>
> what surprised me is that the battery was so dead in 4 hours when it had sit for weeks at a time and always started.
>
> could it be the alternator voltage regulator?
>
> thanks for any suggestions
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Oil Choices Sub Topic : FLAME WARS !

 

Please PLEASE Send that wonderful Parmesan Chicken recipe to the list so we can all enjoy it.  MMM!
 
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel the Diesel

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] My car is possessed!

 

Trish,
 
Where is the oil coming out?  Is it blowby coming out the breather or oil filler cap?  Main seal leak?  What happens if you do the oil cap loosening and removal test while the engine is running?  Does the cap move at all, dance around as blow by gasses try to push it off, or does it just fly right off?
 
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel the Diesel whose oil cap dances a bit.

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[diesel_mercedes] '84/'85 Euro 300TD Fiddles

 


I took SWMBO's wagon to work and then home the other day as the new (used , lovingly rebuilt) horns didn't work and the grille's plastic insert was beginning to look pretty rough from the sun .

The horns were a blown fuse , maybe I blew it whilst testing the BIG 1958 High Tone horns I rebuilt and installed , not sure but we'll soon know .

The grill , new ones are available from " URO " but the stamped steel surround SUX big time , it's cheesy , thin and poorly made so I get a good original German surround , dis assemble it carefully setting all the various clips , bumpers and screws aside (because the URO parts SUCK) , then I hand polish the chrome as it's *very* good quality and always shines up like new .

Then I swap the clips onto the new plastic insert and re assemble it to the now shiny German surround , adjust the aluminum strips for proper fitment and re - install using again, the correct original German ATF screws .

I top it off with a N.O.S. German OEM Mercedes badge and hood star ~ WOW ! the whole front of the car looks nice now .

I replaced the plastic headlight surrounds last year when I got a pair affordably .

SWMBO is pleased as am I .

As I now have a collection of used W-123 grilles & parts , I'm going to try and assemble at least one decent one out of the best parts , we'll see how that goes .

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : My car is possessed!

 


Electrical gremlins , in the main ,are usually bad connections here and there so be wary of the lazy " mechanic " who wants to cut any wires or re wire anything .

I didn't notice you mentioning any high oil usage before ~ does it smoke , puke it out or just has myriad leaks from all over the engine ? .

" Motor Honey " is BAD STUFF that will soon KILL THE ENGINE .

-Nate
Trish wrote:
>
> OK so today is the 4th time I've driven my car since we got it back on the
> road and only the 3rd time ever to drive at night.
>
> We were leaving camp when all of a sudden the car started screaming at us
> from what we figured was the emergency blinker button. We turned them on
> and off and eventually the screaming stopped.
>
> Then the seat belt light started blinking on and off, then the glow plug
> light! Then the light for the shifter went on and off! All the way
> home...45 minutes it was a freaking light show on my dash! Oh and those
> are the ONLY dash lights I have. I use the light from my phone to see how
> fast I'm going. But in this car I really don't have to worry about going
> too fast.
>
> The car is still blowing oil like crazy. I feel sorry for anyone behind
> me. It's embarrassing! I put in a quart of Motor Honey Stop Leak, drove
> the specified miles...150 and it's still leaking. I put in at least a
> gallon of oil today! Tomorrow when I go into town I'll pick up MORE oil
> and another quart of the MHSL, I guess. *Sigh*
>
> -- '81 300 SD...yes it is!
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Fuel Economy Check

 


Hm ;

I drove SWMBO's Euro Spec. '84/'85 300TD the other day to work on it and filled it up , the fuel economy was 22.? MPG's and this with all in town driving by SWMBO , no AC as it quit .

-Nate
Brian wrote:
>
> Hooray - 327 miles @ 12.46 gallons = 26.24 mpg. 90% of that was highway driving @ 70 mph. In town stop n go averages 24, hwy 26.
>
> brian from laverne
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Nor Cal. Pick-A-Part

 


I know that yard ! I got a cherry Becker Electronic there for $15 a few years ago as I was passing through ~ I saw the sign and just *HAD*
to stop in and have a look , dirt floor but lots of W-123's, mostly 240's , several looked ready for the used car lot =8-^ .

They don't separate them very well , I found Mercedes' all over the yard , no particular area so I had to walk the whole yard in the 100° sun .

My advice is free and usually worth 1/2 the cost .

-Nate
Tony wrote:
>
> Ah Nate, dunno what we would do without you, you seem to be an encyclopedia of knowhow. Will try to pick up a mechanism en route N. There is a biggie on hwy 99 south of Chico which we should pass on thrusday. Will prolly get my door panel off, only to find a clip has come off the drive pin or some such.
> Tony.
>
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Oil Choices Sub Topic : FLAME WARS !

 

Didn't mean to start a war!  Geez. 

I can send you the recipe for the chicken if you want. In fact it came from Gilroy, CA, the garlic capital!  You gotta love garlic to love this chicken.  It was delicious by the way! :) 



On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 


Boy howdy did you ask the $64 Question Trish ! .

Everyone has an opinion on this but few have any real idea what they're talking about so much yelling and name calling always ensues whenever oil domes up .

Sort of like politics , knowhutimean ? =8-) .

Anyways , in the end , using a good quality oil and _HOT_ changing it along with the oil filter , will be sufficient to keep your soon to be beloved Mercedes running for years to come .

Synthetics are always better than the Dino based oils it was designed and built to use *but* they tend to find weeps & seeps moreso than do Dino based oils .

Me , I use the thinnest multi - viscosity Diesel rated oils I can find as I live in the Southwest and run all my engines _hard_ . 5W-whatever , not -50 as the polymer chain that allows 10W-50 is rather long and doesn't stand up well to harsh service .

I wish you were here around _MY_ birthday ~ I'd love some Parmisan Chicken ! =8-) .

-Nate
Trish wrote:
>
> So what oil does everyone recommend? I'm using what the former owner put
> in the car...Rowtella (I think that's what it's called) 15/40.
>
> Have a GREAT weekend everyone! I'm gonna go drive my car!
>
> BTW it's Kevin's birthday on Sunday..I'll be fixing his favorite
> meal...garlic Parmesan chicken. I was shocked he didn't ask for a slab of
> medium rare beef! Maybe because we just had huge steaks for my birthday
> and since he's the one that had them hand cut, he knows just how pricey
> they were!
>
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>




--
Trish Dougherty
PurrFect Harmony Farm
Ennis, TX
http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Oil Choices Sub Topic : FLAME WARS !

 


Boy howdy did you ask the $64 Question Trish ! .

Everyone has an opinion on this but few have any real idea what they're talking about so much yelling and name calling always ensues whenever oil domes up .

Sort of like politics , knowhutimean ? =8-) .

Anyways , in the end , using a good quality oil and _HOT_ changing it along with the oil filter , will be sufficient to keep your soon to be beloved Mercedes running for years to come .

Synthetics are always better than the Dino based oils it was designed and built to use *but* they tend to find weeps & seeps moreso than do Dino based oils .

Me , I use the thinnest multi - viscosity Diesel rated oils I can find as I live in the Southwest and run all my engines _hard_ . 5W-whatever , not -50 as the polymer chain that allows 10W-50 is rather long and doesn't stand up well to harsh service .

I wish you were here around _MY_ birthday ~ I'd love some Parmisan Chicken ! =8-) .

-Nate
Trish wrote:
>
> So what oil does everyone recommend? I'm using what the former owner put
> in the car...Rowtella (I think that's what it's called) 15/40.
>
> Have a GREAT weekend everyone! I'm gonna go drive my car!
>
> BTW it's Kevin's birthday on Sunday..I'll be fixing his favorite
> meal...garlic Parmesan chicken. I was shocked he didn't ask for a slab of
> medium rare beef! Maybe because we just had huge steaks for my birthday
> and since he's the one that had them hand cut, he knows just how pricey
> they were!
>
> --
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
> http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com
>

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[diesel_mercedes] My car is possessed!

 

OK so today is the 4th time I've driven my car since we got it back on the road and only the 3rd time ever to drive at night.

We were leaving camp when all of a sudden the car started screaming at us from what we figured was the emergency blinker button.  We turned them on and off and eventually the screaming stopped. 

Then the seat belt light started blinking on and off, then the glow plug light!  Then the light for the shifter went on and off!  All the way home...45 minutes it was a freaking light show on my dash!  Oh and those are the ONLY dash lights I have. I use the light from my phone to see how fast I'm going.  But in this car I really don't have to worry about going too fast.

The car is still blowing oil like crazy.  I feel sorry for anyone behind me.  It's embarrassing!  I put in a quart of Motor Honey Stop Leak, drove the specified miles...150 and it's still leaking.  I put in at least a gallon of oil today!  Tomorrow when I go into town I'll pick up MORE oil and another quart of the MHSL, I guess.  *Sigh* 

-- '81 300 SD...yes it is!
Trish Dougherty
PurrFect Harmony Farm
Ennis, TX
http:/purrfectharmonyfarm.intuitwebsites.com

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Flex Disk Vs. U-Joint

 


BIG difference ! .

The Mercedes Automobiles tend to have the final drive unit ('pumpkin' ,' chunk' etc,) mounted to the unibody along with the transmission so the drive shaft doesn't move up/down , it only spins . thus , a flat rubber " Flex Disc " is used to absorb vibrations .

Lesser Automobiles have the entire rear axle and final drive as a single unit , attached to the vehicle by the suspension so the drive shaft not only rotates but it must , perforce , move up and down several degrees at the rear end and a pair of U- Joints are used to allow this drive shaft movement .

Mercedes and other fine cars, do use Constant Velocity or " CV " joints between the drive axles on each drive wheel and the fixed pumpkin , this ' CV ' joint works similarly to a U-Joint although it is constructed *very* differently .

I've never seen a W-123 with any U-Joints yet but there's also much I don't know about Motor Vehicles .

-Nate
Giancarlo Asked :

>
> Is there a difference between u-joints and flex disks or is it another way to say same thing? I am having carrier bearing replaced in a'85 300DT and am seeing references to both of these in addition.
> Thanks in advance,
> Giancarlo
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Anyone got an extra $18k laying around?

 

It is pretty. But, is it $19K pretty?
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: bgiovan <bgiovan@cavtel.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:26 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Anyone got an extra $18k laying around?

 
Here you go:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160767114611+&viewitem=

Ben near Detroit.



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[diesel_mercedes] Anyone got an extra $18k laying around?

 
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Mercedes Benz Service Manual Model Year 1985 USA #190655242885

 


Looks like a good book .




                       
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Tires

 



--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, deanstud@... wrote:
>
>
> I get no benefit from you clicking or buying, I just think this is a good deal and wanted to pass it on...
>
>
> $100 off and free shipping when you buy a set of 4 tires...
>
>
> Now, you could look through and tell me the best deal for my '83 300d if you felt like it :) Several different brands available, and even there most expensive ones seem affordable with the discounts.
>
>
> Or, tell me if it isn't a good deal...
>

> $100 Visa Gift Card with the purchase of 4 tires through Discount Tire Direct - March 16th - March 25th
> http://stores.ebay.com/Discount-Tire-Direct
>
> -Dean E. Chandler
> -=KE7TWY=-
> '86 SDL
> '83 300D
> Cornelius, Oregon
> deanstud@...
>

I have Discount Tire stores all over my neck of the woods. The only time I've ever ordered tires was to get something specific that wasn't readily available locally. Even then, your local tire shop should be able to get it for you. Even with the $100 credit you still get dinged for shipping. On the off chance that you actually save some money I doubt it will be enough to compensate for the PITA factor. All that said I'm going to plug the Nokian EnTyres I have on both my Merc's. Quiet, good in the wet, low rolling resistance and the increase in fuel economy was noticeable.

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