[diesel_mercedes] Fuel filter housing discovery

 

While changing the fuel filters today, I found only half of the lower
seal on the bolt that goes in the top of the housing. A big chunk was
lodged in the hole in the side of the bolt, pretty much stopping it off.
I wonder where the rest of the seal is?
Even though I had the wrong filter (mine was not a cartridge, but a
spin-on), I did replace the clear one. It was filthy, but was not
clogged as I feared.
Maybe it was psychological, but it seemed to have more pep on the way
home from the shop. The right filter will be here tomorrow.
I sure like having a car that I can get parts for, vs. the Citroen GSA I
used to have! Two weeks wait for an oil filter and twice the price for
shipping!

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Caliper Service

 

On 7/31/2017 8:20 PM, vwnate1@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] wrote:
 

Go to .99 CENTS Store and buy package of toothbrush sized wire brushes, use the brass bristled one with plenty of alcohol, brake cleaner or brake fluid and NOTHING ELSE .

Mostly the  job entails elbow grease, patience and lots of lint free towels .

Green scrubby cleans the pistons. Alcohol or brake cleaner.

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[diesel_mercedes] Valve Adjusting

 

Mark  in Co. used to make these up affordably ~ not the pretties but far better than the more expen$ive Factory ones I purchased ! .


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[diesel_mercedes] Caliper Service

 

Go to .99 CENTS Store and buy package of toothbrush sized wire brushes, use the brass bristled one with plenty of alcohol, brake cleaner or brake fluid and NOTHING ELSE .

Mostly the  job entails elbow grease, patience and lots of lint free towels .

-Nate

      Max   wrote :

Finally got my pistons out of the calipers.(front) I had to go get help and it was a bear. I did not want to use grease. I tried to use my nozzle injector tester but I could not find a pipe adapter in my town. Ended up using solvent and air and hammer whacks. They are very gummed up. Now to figure how to clean them up. Parts are on the way. I figured I would learn something doing this the hard way. After seeing how gummed up these things are I am gonna do the rears even tho they are not worn out yet. I'm betting they could use to be cleaned up also. Front turned out to be ATE rears Bendix.Max

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] 1977 240D

 

highly recommend Nate's suggestions.   The wrenches are about $90 a pair.  I made my own,

by cutting / bending / welding.  Mercedes Source has a good set too.   Diesel Giant has

a great vid of valve adjusting.   

My 70 220 had been neglected (my Dad's car) for years.  I did what Nate suggested below

plus a diesel purge, and could not believe the increase in performance.  Also did a

vac pump rebuild.  Again vids on how to do this.  Check your vac lines too.   Fun to drive again.

 

Now there is a GP problem….

 

warren

 

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 8:36 AM
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1977 240D

 

 

#1 : get some special wrenches or pay to have it done but have the valves adjusted A.S.A.P. .

#2 : upgrade all the glow plugs to the later 'pencil' typ as your current series setup _will_ fail and when it does all four glow plugs quit .

To do this properly you'll need to replace the early glow plug harness, not hyard to make one up from scratch, use HEAVY GAUGE WIRE as they draw lots of current .

#3 : Do a HOT OIL & filter change, replacing the fuel filters (there's two of them) at the same time, be sure to only use the clear plastic primary intake fuel filter so you'll know whenever some crud gets into the fuel
(happens more often than most realize and the translucent filters mean you can't tell, the car just stops)


#4 : Go to your F.L.A.P.S. and buy a bottle of Poer Service (brand) "Diesel Kleen" in silver ot white bottle and dump 1/3 of it in, save the rest .

#5 : now go drive and enjoy your Classic Mercedes Diesel Economy car, don't be afraid of it .

If you choose 'no E-Mail' in the settings you won't be swamped with unwanted messages, you can always trap the 'reply' address and write replies from your E-Mail inbox .

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Hi Bill,
I have sent out several messages to the list, first through my regular email utility (Thunderbird), then through the Charter webmail, and finally on the group page. So far, that is the only one that has gotten through. I have retyped my info several times! Very frustrating.
So here goes again, on the group page. I have a 1977 W123 240D with series glow plugs and the metal relay under the dash. I just bought the car a few months ago and need to get the bugs out of it.
I'm beginning to realize that the car had fairly good cosmetic workover on it shortly before I bought it, and he did a few major things, but he seems to have ignored the basic condition of the engine. Well, that's fine. We can fix that, right?
I think I need to replace every filter. Three tries and then a stumbling start, no smoke. Since fiddling with the relay, that seems better, though the blade fuse looks corroded and I think it would be a smart thing to put a fresh one in.

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] 1977 240D

 

Regarding the change to pencil type GP's;

 

'70 220D.

 

The voltage to the first glow plug is 12 volts.  This is the output from the

salt shaker.  Is 12 volts OK to use with pencil type GP's?   I've read that the

voltage should be 9 volts. 

 

Let me know, because I am about ready to order either the Diesel Giant kit

or the Mercedes Source kit (with his reamer).

 

Thanks,

Warren -

 

 

From: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com [mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com]
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To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1977 240D

 

 

#1 : get some special wrenches or pay to have it done but have the valves adjusted A.S.A.P. .

#2 : upgrade all the glow plugs to the later 'pencil' typ as your current series setup _will_ fail and when it does all four glow plugs quit .

To do this properly you'll need to replace the early glow plug harness, not hyard to make one up from scratch, use HEAVY GAUGE WIRE as they draw lots of current .

#3 : Do a HOT OIL & filter change, replacing the fuel filters (there's two of them) at the same time, be sure to only use the clear plastic primary intake fuel filter so you'll know whenever some crud gets into the fuel
(happens more often than most realize and the translucent filters mean you can't tell, the car just stops)


#4 : Go to your F.L.A.P.S. and buy a bottle of Poer Service (brand) "Diesel Kleen" in silver ot white bottle and dump 1/3 of it in, save the rest .

#5 : now go drive and enjoy your Classic Mercedes Diesel Economy car, don't be afraid of it .

If you choose 'no E-Mail' in the settings you won't be swamped with unwanted messages, you can always trap the 'reply' address and write replies from your E-Mail inbox .

-Nate
         Mark   wrote :

Hi Bill,
I have sent out several messages to the list, first through my regular email utility (Thunderbird), then through the Charter webmail, and finally on the group page. So far, that is the only one that has gotten through. I have retyped my info several times! Very frustrating.
So here goes again, on the group page. I have a 1977 W123 240D with series glow plugs and the metal relay under the dash. I just bought the car a few months ago and need to get the bugs out of it.
I'm beginning to realize that the car had fairly good cosmetic workover on it shortly before I bought it, and he did a few major things, but he seems to have ignored the basic condition of the engine. Well, that's fine. We can fix that, right?
I think I need to replace every filter. Three tries and then a stumbling start, no smoke. Since fiddling with the relay, that seems better, though the blade fuse looks corroded and I think it would be a smart thing to put a fresh one in.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] brakes

 

On 7/30/2017 4:40 PM, jasperezra@gmail.com [diesel_mercedes] wrote:
 

Finally got my pistons out of the calipers.(front) I had to go get help and it was a bear. I did not want to use grease. I tried to use my nozzle injector tester but I could not find a pipe adapter in my town. Ended up using solvent and air and hammer whacks. They are very gummed up. Now to figure how to clean them up. Parts are on the way. I figured I would learn something doing this the hard way. After seeing how gummed up these things are I am gonna do the rears even tho they are not worn out yet. I'm betting they could use to be cleaned up also. Front turned out to be ATE rears Bendix.Max

Finally got my email fixed!
Clean the pistons carefully. If they are metal, they are likely to be chrome plated, in which case, any flaws in the plating with mean that the pistons are junk. Just replacing the rubber bits will do no good. If you have new pistons, you should be good to go if you clean out the bore really well, make sure the seal groove is smooth and clean and that the groove for the boot is in good nick.
I've seen this on other makes of cars where there are mixed caliper makers.
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Battery hold down wanted

 

On 7/30/2017 8:13 AM, corvallis@peoplepc.com [diesel_mercedes] wrote:
 

Whoa. I am impressed at your searching prowess.  Bill in Oregon

Simple enough to do what he did. Hammer out a few fender washers and two new nuts. But I wonder what the original looks like. One piece?
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[diesel_mercedes] Wanted battery hold down

 

Hey,
1977 Mercedes 240. Need a tie down plate and bolt. Or is it two?
Thanks,

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Battery hold down wanted

 

Good luck. Ive talked to them and wrote them too. I got the message they are too popular and don't have any visitors or give any advice out. Max  P.S. let us know how it goes

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[diesel_mercedes] brakes

 

Finally got my pistons out of the calipers.(front) I had to go get help and it was a bear. I did not want to use grease. I tried to use my nozzle injector tester but I could not find a pipe adapter in my town. Ended up using solvent and air and hammer whacks. They are very gummed up. Now to figure how to clean them up. Parts are on the way. I figured I would learn something doing this the hard way. After seeing how gummed up these things are I am gonna do the rears even tho they are not worn out yet. I'm betting they could use to be cleaned up also. Front turned out to be ATE rears Bendix.Max

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[diesel_mercedes] 1977 240D

 

#1 : get some special wrenches or pay to have it done but have the valves adjusted A.S.A.P. .

#2 : upgrade all the glow plugs to the later 'pencil' typ as your current series setup _will_ fail and when it does all four glow plugs quit .

To do this properly you'll need to replace the early glow plug harness, not hyard to make one up from scratch, use HEAVY GAUGE WIRE as they draw lots of current .

#3 : Do a HOT OIL & filter change, replacing the fuel filters (there's two of them) at the same time, be sure to only use the clear plastic primary intake fuel filter so you'll know whenever some crud gets into the fuel
(happens more often than most realize and the translucent filters mean you can't tell, the car just stops)


#4 : Go to your F.L.A.P.S. and buy a bottle of Poer Service (brand) "Diesel Kleen" in silver ot white bottle and dump 1/3 of it in, save the rest .

#5 : now go drive and enjoy your Classic Mercedes Diesel Economy car, don't be afraid of it .

If you choose 'no E-Mail' in the settings you won't be swamped with unwanted messages, you can always trap the 'reply' address and write replies from your E-Mail inbox .

-Nate
         Mark   wrote :

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So here goes again, on the group page. I have a 1977 W123 240D with series glow plugs and the metal relay under the dash. I just bought the car a few months ago and need to get the bugs out of it.
I'm beginning to realize that the car had fairly good cosmetic workover on it shortly before I bought it, and he did a few major things, but he seems to have ignored the basic condition of the engine. Well, that's fine. We can fix that, right?
I think I need to replace every filter. Three tries and then a stumbling start, no smoke. Since fiddling with the relay, that seems better, though the blade fuse looks corroded and I think it would be a smart thing to put a fresh one in.

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