I think it's too much effort. Perfection is rarely necessary.
Jim
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Veggie Set Up
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Drag racing in a 240D
Hey dunno what all the fuss is about, my 300D will do 0 to 60 the same day.
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Nate Rector <tccservice111@...> wrote:
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> add propane and nitrous for a 100 extra hp.
> Â
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: max_stemple <jasperezra@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:36 PM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Drag racing in a 240D
>
>
>
> Â
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>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Chip" <czulli@> wrote:
> >
> > Max,
> >
> > I can't use a 240 for drag racing Max.
> >
> > Chip
> > Houston
> > I guess you must of missed this story. Max
> "I took a ride in my venerable old '83 Mercedes 240D last night. 2.4 liters of raw power, 4 cylinders of asphalt-tearing terror with 67 rompin stompin horse power at my beck and call. It's stock, all right, nothing done to it, but it pushes the 3200 pounds of German engineering around with AUTHORITY. I'm always catching mopeds and 18-wheelers by surprise...
> I was headed back from Baskin Robbins with my manly triple-latte cappuccino blast ("No Cinnamon, ma'am, I take it BLACK"), when I stopped at a streetlight. As the "D" rattled its throaty idle around me, I sipped my bold beverage and wiped the white froth my stiff upper lip. I was minding my own business, but then I heard a rev from the next lane.
> I turned, made eye contact, then let my eyes trace over the competition. Geo Metro -- a late model, could be trouble. Low profile tires, curb feelers, and schoolbus-yellow paint. Yep, a hot rod, for sure.
> The howl of his motor snapped my reverie, and I looked back into the driver's eyes, nodded, then blipped my own throttle (Rattle Rattle!!). As I tugged on my driving gloves and slipped on my sunglasses (gotta look cool to be fast, and I am *damn* cool, hence...), the night was split with the sound of seven screaming cylinders...
> Then the light turned... I almost had him out of the hole, my four pounding cylinders thrusting me at least a millimeter back into my seat, as smoke pouring from exhaust pipe... I'd let it sit and idle too long! I saw in the corner of my eyes, a yellow snout gaining, and I heard the roar of his three cylinders. He slung by me, right front wheel juddering against the pavement, and he flashed me a smile as his gasoline powered 1.1 liters of motor stretched its legs. I turned off my AC to gain 10% more power and kept my foot gamely in it. Then I saw a glimpse of chrome under his bumper, and knew the ugly truth...
> He was running a custom exhaust -- probably a 1.5-into-1 dual exhaust... maybe even cutouts! Damn his hotrod soul! The old lady passing us on the crosswalk cast a dirty look in our boy-racer direction... Yet still I persisted, with my four pumping pistons singing a steady, deep, diesel song, wound fully out. Though only a few handfuls of seconds had passed, we were nearing the crosswalk at the other side of the intersection, and I heard the note of his engine change as he made his shift to second, and I saw his grin in his rearview mirror fade as he missed the shift! I rocketed by! Not ready to give up so easily, he left his foot in it, revving, and I heard one wheel *almost* chirp as he finally found second and dropped the clutch. We careened over the crosswalk, now going at least 15 miles per hour. A bicyclist passed us, but intent on the race as we were, neither of us batted an eye.
> I was waiting for the first dot on the speedometer to tell me to shift (no tachometer here!). Shifting, I nursed the clutch gently to keep from bogging, keeping my motor spinning hot and pulling me ahead, now trailing a cloud of stinking clutch smoke, no that's diesel exhaust again...
> He pulled slowly abreast of me, and neck and neck, I shifted into third at 38 MPH - a little early, but better safe than sorry. The scream of motors deafening all pedestrians within a five foot circle. He nosed ahead as we passed 42 miles an hour, then eased in front of me, taunting, as he shifted into fourth. I decided to keep my car in third, counting on the ability to pump out the power at higher speeds and lower gears. I was staring up the dual 6" chrome tips of his exhaust, snarling, my cappuccino forgotten, as he lifted a little to take the next corner.
> I saw my opportunity, and counting on the innate agility of my trusty steed, I pulled wide into the number two lane and kept my foot buried in carpet. Slowly, I inched around him, feeling my German Diesel roll slowly to the left as I came abreast in the midst of this gradual sweeping turn. I felt the front start to push a little, so I added more power only to realize that was all I had! But, I saw the right rear wheel lift on the Metro and realized he had reached his limit! Slowly I gained on him through the outside of the turn passing him with ease!!!
> The Metro driver beat his wheel in rage as my car eased past him on the outside, my P175/R14's screaming in protest, as we raced to the next light. We coasted down, neck-and neck, to the red light. I tightened my driving gloves, ready for another round, when this WIMP in the next car meekly flipped his turn signal and made a right. MB superiority reigns!!!
> I drove off sipping my masculine drink, awash in my sheer virility, looking for other unwitting targets.... Perhaps a Yugo, or maybe even a Volkswagen Van! ...Courtesy of Mark Shilling."
>
> Hey, mines a 4-spd, too, Max
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Mazatlan
Here are a few more pics from Mazatlan, taken at the food fiesta Nov 20th
http://www.flickr.com/photos/technicotony/sets/72157628168361301/show/
> > A few more pics from Mazatlan, most of these were taken of the Nov 20 celebration of the Revolution.
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/technicotony/sets/72157628121489127/show/
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Re: [diesel_mercedes]Re: CD - ROM Shop Manuals
No cheap wine this morning Brian, but I did have some cough medicine.
Maybe I can blame that for saying Thunderbird, when I meant Firefox
(Thanks Jim) which is the web browser.
Rob
On 11/29/11 12:59 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: CD - ROM Shop Manuals
> Posted by: "Aleph93"aleph93@ca.rr.com aleph93
> Date: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:02 am ((PST))
>
> Thunderbird works on a Mozilla framework, just like Netscape did, so you
> can read the files with that program.
>
> Rob
> '85 300D
> Garden Grove, CA
>
> On 11/29/11 1:11 AM,diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>> > Re: CD - ROM Shop Manuals
>> > Posted by: "Alan Boucher"alstheone@verizon.net alstheone2002
>> > Date: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:19 pm ((PST))
>> >
>> > On 11/28/2011 4:37 PM, Nate wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Yes , your up to date computer is missing Adobe Acrobat V. 3 , this is
>>>> >> > necessary to read the older PDF files , it shoukld be partof ther CD
>>>> >> > ROM , give it a look .
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > -Nate
>>>> >> > (who had the same issue)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Sid Asked :
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I tried to acess some of the infomation on that service manual, but my
>>>> >> > computer can't. Am I missing a program or something?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>> > the CD for my 83 SD etc requires Netscape. Remember Netscape. At least
>> > they had the foresight to put it on the disc.
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Electric Window Gremlins
I used this video as a guide when getting to my switches:
https://mercedessource.com/node/8554
And then this guide to refurbing switches:
http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/SwitchRefurb
I haven't gotten around to the window switches, I started with the hazard and then cleaned one other from the console before having to put it all back together for a bit. But the switch refurb pictorial did help in general (some pics are fuzzy, but you can get the idea)
Good luck!
Caitlin
Santa Fe
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "bmwsid" <sidcranston@...> wrote:
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> Tom,
> Thank you for the good advice. I will look into the screws holding the console plate on. Maybe the gremlin for the windows is in there. As you may have seen in my last post, I can look at the wires in the other rear window switch (without disturbing them) and get the proper order for the one I messed with.
> I see it can be tricky to get the switch badk togeather correctly. I saw one of them little balls in the switch, and wondered if there was supposed to be two.
> I will definately will have to slow down on taking thinga apart like that!
> BTW, the fuses are all OK and making contact.
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hear , hear .
> >
> > -Nate
> > Tom wrote:
> > >
> > > Sid,
> > >
> > > STOP!
> > >
> > > No drilling tiny holes in things. No disassembling things and
> > > disconnecting wires before knowing what goes where, or at least being prepared to
> > > label things that you have disconnected.
> > >
> > > At your level of knowledge, one of the most valuable and least
> > > dangerous tools you can own is a small spiral or other binding, plastic covered
> > > notebook. In this you take notes AS you work. You draw little diagrams of
> > > plugs and wires and list what color went to what pin, etc.
> > >
> > > The window switches sit on your center console, where they can collect
> > > spilled coffee, soda, salt from french fries, etc. as well as just plain
> > > dust and lint from normal life. Drilling even tiny holes is calculated to
> > > aggravate any bad effects from such things. AND is SO UNNECESSARY.
> > >
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Electric Window Gremlins
Tom,
Thank you for the good advice. I will look into the screws holding the console plate on. Maybe the gremlin for the windows is in there. As you may have seen in my last post, I can look at the wires in the other rear window switch (without disturbing them) and get the proper order for the one I messed with.
I see it can be tricky to get the switch badk togeather correctly. I saw one of them little balls in the switch, and wondered if there was supposed to be two.
I will definately will have to slow down on taking thinga apart like that!
BTW, the fuses are all OK and making contact.
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hear , hear .
>
> -Nate
> Tom wrote:
> >
> > Sid,
> >
> > STOP!
> >
> > No drilling tiny holes in things. No disassembling things and
> > disconnecting wires before knowing what goes where, or at least being prepared to
> > label things that you have disconnected.
> >
> > At your level of knowledge, one of the most valuable and least
> > dangerous tools you can own is a small spiral or other binding, plastic covered
> > notebook. In this you take notes AS you work. You draw little diagrams of
> > plugs and wires and list what color went to what pin, etc.
> >
> > The window switches sit on your center console, where they can collect
> > spilled coffee, soda, salt from french fries, etc. as well as just plain
> > dust and lint from normal life. Drilling even tiny holes is calculated to
> > aggravate any bad effects from such things. AND is SO UNNECESSARY.
> >
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Tool Question...27mm deep socket
Thanks Tom...I didn't plan to use the key ;) hence my 2-for-1 tool hunt.
I don't have a 22mm wrench, so I'd have to buy that too...am still hoping to get an answer about IF I can use a deep 27mm socket for both.
If my ship comes in, or the family is generous at xmas...I can probably spring for more tools ;) since "small increments" sounds like a bonus. I hope to hit both pawn shops (as per Nate...can be good cheap tool shopping) and the PAP after xmas. And come to think of it, it's not too likely I'll actually get to the valve adjust before then...
And much thanks for the warning about the nozzle pressure...yikes!
Caitlin
Santa Fe
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, audiolaw@... wrote:
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> Caitlin,
>
> DO NOT use the key to turn over the engine!! what if it starts on you?
> (Besides, you can't see what you need to see as you thumb the key.)
>
> Get a 22 mm box end wrench and put it on the nut on the front of the
> power steering pump. Use that to turn over the engine. Believe me, it
> works, even though you don't think that it will, when you look at it. (I may
> be wrong about the wrench size, it may be 24 mm - but I think 22.)
>
> This way, you can also turn in very small increments, so you can get
> the cam lobes just where you want them for adjustment.
>
> Turn ONLY clockwise, as viewed from the front looking at the engine.
> DO NOT go "backwards" if you overshoot, just keep turning until the lobe
> comes around again.
>
> Keep a note pad with you, and note which valves you have adjusted, AS
> YOU GO ALONG. This way, you can safely adjust the valves out of order,
> depending on which lobes come up first.
>
> As for injectors, the first step in cleaning them is the diesel purge
> operation that Nate has described (archives). Injectors wear, so dirt
> isn't their only problem. Wear affects spray pattern. There are sites on the
> web that will show you how to 'home brew' an injector tester. If you try
> this, you must be VERY CAREFUL. The injector spray looks very delicate.
> But it is under extreme pressure and will spray right through you skin and
> underlying flesh and right through leather gloves. Then all your savings
> from doing your own work get lost for the required medical treatment.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/29/2011 4:39:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> tinymachine@... writes:
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>
>
>
> Can I use a 27mm deep socket on the crankshaft AND to remove/install
> injectors on my OM617 300SD?
>
> My next big (for me) task is the valve clearance adjustment and I don't
> have tools to turn the engine (or know how to do it without tools, like the
> turn the key and hunt method) AND I will want to check and clean my
> injectors at some point (and maybe seek spares at a PAP) and I've gotten the
> impression the 27mm deep socket would work for both purposes...true?
>
> Thanks!
> Caitlin
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Tool Question...27mm deep socket
Can I use a 27mm deep socket on the crankshaft AND to remove/install injectors on my OM617 300SD?Caitlin, DO NOT use the key to turn over the engine!! what if it starts on you? (Besides, you can't see what you need to see as you thumb the key.) Get a 22 mm box end wrench and put it on the nut on the front of the power steering pump. Use that to turn over the engine. Believe me, it works, even though you don't think that it will, when you look at it. (I may be wrong about the wrench size, it may be 24 mm - but I think 22.) This way, you can also turn in very small increments, so you can get the cam lobes just where you want them for adjustment. Turn ONLY clockwise, as viewed from the front looking at the engine. DO NOT go "backwards" if you overshoot, just keep turning until the lobe comes around again. Keep a note pad with you, and note which valves you have adjusted, AS YOU GO ALONG. This way, you can safely adjust the valves out of order, depending on which lobes come up first. As for injectors, the first step in cleaning them is the diesel purge operation that Nate has described (archives). Injectors wear, so dirt isn't their only problem. Wear affects spray pattern. There are sites on the web that will show you how to 'home brew' an injector tester. If you try this, you must be VERY CAREFUL. The injector spray looks very delicate. But it is under extreme pressure and will spray right through you skin and underlying flesh and right through leather gloves. Then all your savings from doing your own work get lost for the required medical treatment. Tom In a message dated 11/29/2011 4:39:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, tinymachine@gmail.com writes:
My next big (for me) task is the valve clearance adjustment and I don't have tools to turn the engine (or know how to do it without tools, like the turn the key and hunt method) AND I will want to check and clean my injectors at some point (and maybe seek spares at a PAP) and I've gotten the impression the 27mm deep socket would work for both purposes...true?
Thanks!
Caitlin
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: It's Good To Be Back
Max, "Having to leave the farm"? I thought old farmers just go put out to pasture. I suggested to Nate that he could stuff one of the new 6 cylinder MBZ diesels in the truck. That way, he'd be able to still tell people that it was powered by a straight 6, as it is now. That would also provide both more power and better fuel economy. Tom In a message dated 11/29/2011 4:31:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jasperezra@gmail.com writes: Maybe you could think about writing a novel. The exploits of you and Nate or something. One of my dreams was(before my body slipped into a state of not being able to do theses things by myself anymore) was to get a OLD Chevy pickup, either a 1948 to 1953, or a 1940's something, and to put a 5 cylinder Mercedes turbo into it. Wow, that would be a cool truck to drive into town once in a while. But now I'm just a dreamer. Having to leave the farm and all. Max
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[diesel_mercedes] Tool Question...27mm deep socket
Can I use a 27mm deep socket on the crankshaft AND to remove/install injectors on my OM617 300SD?
My next big (for me) task is the valve clearance adjustment and I don't have tools to turn the engine (or know how to do it without tools, like the turn the key and hunt method) AND I will want to check and clean my injectors at some point (and maybe seek spares at a PAP) and I've gotten the impression the 27mm deep socket would work for both purposes...true?
Thanks!
Caitlin
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: It's Good To Be Back
Maybe you could think about writing a novel. The exploits of you and Nate or something. One of my dreams was(before my body slipped into a state of not being able to do theses things by myself anymore) was to get a OLD Chevy pickup, either a 1948 to 1953, or a 1940's something, and to put a 5 cylinder Mercedes turbo into it. Wow, that would be a cool truck to drive into town once in a while. But now I'm just a dreamer. Having to leave the farm and all. Max
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, audiolaw@... wrote:
>
> Max,
>
> You have NO idea! Nate's deaf as a post (actually, that may be mean
> to posts) so he can cruise along with window's wide open and the roar of the
> wind (that he can't hear) trying to burst ear drums. Since I still
> consult, occasionally, on music mixes and sound tracks, I'm not so cool with
> that.
>
> Of course, in the 1/2 century this truck has been working, no one
> thought about replacing the worn out window channels. So the windows rattle
> like snare drums even when rolled up. And this particular design was never
> equipped with any sound deadening on the broad expanses of sheet metal. So
> instead of sitting in an environment like a 126 or 123, it's like sitting
> inside a drum.
>
> Nate won't buy any vehicle unless he first has convinced himself that
> it has a good variety of obscure mechanical, electrical and other issues to
> confound him for a few months. So this one, which is an automatic,
> converted from originally being a manual, had an f-'d up column. Watching him
> struggle to get it into or out of gear was a pretty good reminder of the
> truism "white men can't dance." (Of course, once we got it home, he just
> disassembled the steering column, replaced the various broken bits, and made it
> work like new.)
>
> It wouldn't be a real vehicle for a long trip if the instruments
> worked, or even the instrument lighting. So we spent plenty of time in the
> evening with Nate squinting at the dash, trying to figure out what was going on
> (like, 'can we get to the next gas station (100 miles ahead) on the
> indicated 1/16 tank left?') Or, 'is that wisp of smoke curling up out of the
> dash really a bad thing or just something that smells bad?
>
> Actually, now that I reminisce about the trip, I have to admit that
> the passenger's side of the cab might have been a little quieter than the
> driver's side, because the leaves packed into the fresh air inlet, vent, HVAC
> system, etc. were so dense that they had to have some damping effect on the
> various panels of sheet metal (It really doesn't have an "HVAC" system,
> just a heater, with broken controls.)
>
> But it was a good trip. Especially things like getting stopped by the
> gate guards at the White Sands Missle range in N.M. and seeing that the
> construction of a lot of the '60s vintage missles in their museum area had
> about the same build quality as a GM truck of that period. Amazing that we
> ever won the Cold War.
>
> The mileage will improve when Nate gets the silly after market 15"
> wheels off of it and puts some real wheels and tires on it.
>
> This past weekend, we found the same truck in a junkyard and recovered
> the heater controls, so maybe it will not be an icebox during the upcoming
> winter. And the proper door latch shims, so the doors will close without
> damaging their latches (this is the kind of little stuff that Nate obsesses
> on, that most people ignore - which is why Nate's rides last so long).
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/29/2011 3:35:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> jasperezra@... writes:
>
> 50 degrees, cold?. Ho Ho, you guys crack me up. You must of had a great
> drive back from Texas. Gad, 13 mpg. My 460 Ford gets so bad all it does is
> plow snow and haul firewood. Have no even licensed it for 10 years or so.Max
>
> --- In _diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) , "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Recently Tom and I went to Dallas TEXAS where I bought an old 1969 Chevy
> C/10 pickup truck and drove it back to L.A. , having fun ever since
> tinkering with it , repairing the many DPO & DPM bodges & deferred maintenance
> items , driving it instead of my trusty 1984 300CD Sports Coupe .
> >
>
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