"Storage" in this case is storing the vehicle, as in parking it in a storage
facility/location at home/etc, with the tires on the rims and rims on the
vehicle ready to drive.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Waterhouse
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:43 AM
To: Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Diesel-RVs] Re: Vapor Barriers Beneath Tires
Question on "storage".
Is this on a rim, mounted with air or other substance, or just
"storage", unmounted?
Sorta like the old Battery thing on concrete... sucks the power out of a
battery..
No.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Rider" <afchap@mindspring.com>
To: <Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Diesel-RVs] Re: Vapor Barriers Beneath Tires
: Carefully note exactly what I said. I stated "many will argue" that water
is
: absorbed into a tire and will rust the steel belts. I have not argued that
: (and have doubt about it myself), but have seen it argued on various lists
: many times so I threw that in as I figured someone else would if I did
not.
: I don't think dry concrete will put moisture into a tire, nor will a mere
: barrier under the tire protect it when it is standing in water, if that is
: indeed a "hazard". I have noticed that www.rangerdesign.com makes that
claim
: ("damage caused by moisture leaching into the tread and steel belts")
along
: with a claim that "tire mfgs recommend a vapor barrier be used" on their
web
: site as a reason you should buy their product, though they do not give any
: specific tire mfg references for their statement.
:
: One reference recommending vapor barriers I CAN give is this. In the
: Michelin RV Tire brochure (available on their web site), they state:
:
: "...some storage surfaces can cause tires to age faster. That's why
Michelin
: recommends placing a barrier (cardboard, plastic or plywood) between your
: tire and the storage surface."
:
: They do not state why ...but my understanding of it is the surface pulling
: moisture/oils out. Which, I suspect, is part of the reason for the marks
: that tires leave on vinyl/tile/or very smooth concrete which you mention
: using a pad to protect the floor from. Me thinks you are protecting more
: than just the floor from unsightly marks...
:
: Paul
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com] On
: Behalf Of Russ Waterhouse
: Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 7:43 PM
: To: Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com
: Subject: Re: [Diesel-RVs] Re: Vapor Barriers Beneath Tires
:
: Water is absorbed in a tire? Just last week it was air was leaking out
: through the rubber in the tire. I bet 100 PSI of air leaking out will
: prevent natural absorption of water in.
: Would you post this tire manufacturers recommendation Please? I never
: heard of it.
: I have been into show cars and collector cars for most of my adult
life,
: no one I know puts the car on pads to save the tire. Yes, on vinyl or tile
: floors, to protect the floor, not the tire.
: Russ
:
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Paul Rider" <afchap@mindspring.com>
: To: <Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com>
: Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 4:51 PM
: Subject: RE: [Diesel-RVs] Re: Vapor Barriers Beneath Tires
:
:
:: I've never heard that reason for vapor barriers... :) ...but the first
:: "advantage" sounds like WITHOUT the barriers...
::
:: Tire mfg's recommend a vapor barrier under your tires, especially when
:: parked on concrete, as the concrete draws the moisture/oils out of the
:: tires. Many surfaces do to one extent or another, but concrete is about
: the
:: worst. You don't have to deal with the effects of this on your car tires
: in
:: your garage because you wear them out before they dry out. But owners of
:: show cars & collector cars will normally protect the tires from drying
out
:: by using a vapor barrier. Anything is better than nothing, but something
:: that does not absorb water is best. IN ADDITION, many will argue that you
:: should not park your RV where the tires will be standing in water. The
:: argument is that the tires will absorb the water, which will rust the
: steel
:: belts, possibly causing premature failure.
::
:: Paul ... fulltimin', currently at Montgomery AL
:: '03 Winnebago Ultimate Advantage 40e
:: '00 Honda Odyssey toad
:: KE5LXU, Escapees, FMCA, SMART, WIT
:: http://afchap.home.mindspring.com
::
:: -----Original Message-----
:: From: Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com] On
:: Behalf Of tomoneal1
:: Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 3:53 PM
:: To: Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com
:: Subject: [Diesel-RVs] Re: Vapor Barriers Beneath Tires
::
:: I put down a 4' X 4' squares of 1/2" CDX plywood over a sheet of 10'
:: X 35' plastic weed mat so that tires rest on the plywood and weed mat
: blocks
:: insects and weed growth under coach.
::
:: Advantage: weight of coach causes a small bowel in the ground under each
:: wheel that retains a little standing water most of the time.
:: This puddle under the tires effectively blocks ants from crawling up the
:: tires. (Had ant problems before I tried this now none!) Plywood keeps
: tires
:: from tearing the plastic or sinking into ground.
::
:: Even if dry, the plywood soaks up insecticide and a good dose lasts a
long
:: time to block insects during dry spells as crawling insects have to crawl
:: over several feet of plywood to get to tire and into coach. I have our
: home
:: insect control company spray the plywood each time they spray the house.
::
:: Tom
::
::
::
:: --- In Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com, "Rose" <roseport2000@...> wrote:
:: >
:: > Can you explain to me Why I need to do this?
:: > TIA
:: > Rose
:: >
::
::
::
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