Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Glow plug issues

 

You won't believe it (hah), but I already have 2 PAP relays in my inventory. Like a Boy Scout, I am "prepared" to do everything but an engine overhaul on the side of the road.

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:29 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Glow plug issues

 

A few things :

Test the resistance of all five glow plugs from the relay , if they're not all very close , look harder to find out why ~ might be old / failed / defective glow plugs , might be a wire issue .

Then go grab a used glow plug relay in the junkyard , I saw a brandy new one the last time Tom and i were out walking .

I know one can take the relay apart for service and cleaning but I assume most would rather just replace it .

Hot or cold , for the absolute fastest starts , I wait for the light to go off before cranking .

-Nate
Chip wrote :
>
> So...I had been having this recurring problem of burning out the 70A fuse block on my relay every few weeks in my 1982 300CD turbo. I probably put in 8 different fuses in a 6 month period of time.
>
> Then I got to looking at the two screw mounts for that fuse bar and found one of the two screws with a good but of tarnish and corrosion. I took out the screw and both washers and really polished them back to new again along with the copper bottom of the relay itself. Put it all back together and I have not had to replace the fuse link since. It has been maybe 6 months of the 70A bar fuse holding without replacement.
>
> But...there are now occasions when my glow plug light on the dash will not come on. On those occasions I have to start the car without the aide of glow plugs and it takes a good bit of fast cranking before she fires up. (good thing I live in Houston in this summer heat)
>
> So I am still thinking it is something in the relay that does not always get power over to the glow plugs or the ignition might not be feeding power to the relay block.
>
> I would love to have some ideas from the board about what might be going on.
>
> Chip
> Houston
>



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[diesel_mercedes] Re : New Keys

 


I don't know ~

I don't want to bend it and find out the hard way so stay tuned ~ if they're crap like the Dealer replacement head covers , you'll soon know .

They _look_ fine and sturdy like my well worn original keys do .

-Nate
Jim Asks :
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> Are they full size steel keys or just the stubs with a small T at the top inside a rubber ring?
>
> Jim
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Drive way job time estimate needed - W123 rear trailing arm

 


Depends on your ability and how much rust there is ~ I'd say a DIY job of one or two days .

I may need to do this to SWMBO's Wagon as I'm hearing clunks from the L/R trailing arm .

-Nate
Steve wrote :
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> My shock mount rusted through again on the drivers rear trailing arm.
> Shop that welded a plate on there last time states the complete arm should be replaced this time.
>
> Any one ever do this in their drive way, no lift, jack, stands, and hand tools, if is, how long did it take ?
>
> I am debating selling or parting the car out, or doing it myself, if I can find a good arm for a reasonable price and it can ge done in a reasonable amount of time.
>
>
> Thanks
> Steve
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Lost Keys

 


It's those ding-dang Government mind control rays again ! .

I took my tinfoil hat off for just a *moment* and look what happened.

Just because I'm paranoid/crazy doesn't mean they're not after me , right ? =8-) .

-Nate
Tom wrote :
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> Last case I heard was an electronic key that had fallen behind a dresser drawer.
>
>
> Tom Hanson
> Mercedes Benz Classic Center USA
> MBUSA, LLC
> thomas.hanson@...
> 949 598-4842 direct
> 949 598-4870 fax
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nate <vwnate1@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:09 AM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Keys
>
>  
>
> As surmised , the very same day that Tom Hansen told me he'd shipped my four new keys , SWMBO called me @ work to let me know she'd found my Coupe's key under the bed ~ apparently I'd left it in my pants back pocket & washed them , when I carried the dry clothes into the bedroom for sorting & folding @ 0-Dark:30 the key dropped to the floor and I kicked in under the bed....
>
> Oh well .
>
> In any case , Tom's new keys cut from the master according to my VIN , fit my 387,000 + mile locks (ALL of them) like the car was new again ~ I am well pleased and got four keys delivered to my door for less than the dealer wants .
>
> I'm driving it again and the AC is working fine , gotta love that R-12 freon . we're forecasted to be 102° F to - day .
>
> -Nate
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : New Seat Trims

 


Try Tom @ The Classic Center , then ask Brian who spends more time perusing the P-A-P wares than I do these days .

Navy Blue interior is nice .

I'm considering having my seats re upholstered but if/when I do I'll prolly want to replace the seat back vacuum locks and use M-B Tex too all this means yet another repair that's more than the whole car is worth .

-Nate
Chip wrote :
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> I finally gave up stitching up my own seats in my 300 CD coupe and took it to a shop and got new seats. My interior was dark blue. He did all of the seats for $1200 and they look fantastic. I don't know what he did to the seat springs and padding but it is like sitting in a new car.
>
> Question though. Where could I find the plastic trim covers for the outside seat buckets. Mine are all broken and shot and I need new ones now that my seats are like new. Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Chip
> Houston
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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Glow plug issues

 


A few things :

Test the resistance of all five glow plugs from the relay , if they're not all very close , look harder to find out why ~ might be old / failed / defective glow plugs , might be a wire issue .

Then go grab a used glow plug relay in the junkyard , I saw a brandy new one the last time Tom and i were out walking .

I know one can take the relay apart for service and cleaning but I assume most would rather just replace it .

Hot or cold , for the absolute fastest starts , I wait for the light to go off before cranking .

-Nate
Chip wrote :
>
> So...I had been having this recurring problem of burning out the 70A fuse block on my relay every few weeks in my 1982 300CD turbo. I probably put in 8 different fuses in a 6 month period of time.
>
> Then I got to looking at the two screw mounts for that fuse bar and found one of the two screws with a good but of tarnish and corrosion. I took out the screw and both washers and really polished them back to new again along with the copper bottom of the relay itself. Put it all back together and I have not had to replace the fuse link since. It has been maybe 6 months of the 70A bar fuse holding without replacement.
>
> But...there are now occasions when my glow plug light on the dash will not come on. On those occasions I have to start the car without the aide of glow plugs and it takes a good bit of fast cranking before she fires up. (good thing I live in Houston in this summer heat)
>
> So I am still thinking it is something in the relay that does not always get power over to the glow plugs or the ignition might not be feeding power to the relay block.
>
> I would love to have some ideas from the board about what might be going on.
>
> Chip
> Houston
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Keys & Parts

 


No ;

Just use his E-Mail and send the VIN along with whatever it is you need , not cheap but cheaper than most Dealers plus they'l ship it right to your front door .

I got hard to find Palomino sun visor clips from his for one of my old M-Bs...

-Nate
The OTHER Nate Asked :

>
> does he have a webstie for parts?
>
>  
> Tennessee Nate
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] A/C repaired and window regulator

 

Just for my info, who did your air, and are they crooks?
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Aleph93 <aleph93@ca.rr.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:29 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] A/C repaired and window regulator

 
I had the A/C repaired the other day, and now it's nice and cold,
perfect for my trip to NoCal coming up, as well as other trips inland to
the lands of summer heat. It was out for 2yrs, and around here it'll be
nice too, especially for my wife's Scottish relatives that are coming
out here soon. What do they know about heat? The cost is best described
as "the high cost of cold air."

Yesterday, I replaced the window regulator on my LR window, and now it
moved nice and smooth. Removing the old one, I noticed the clunking was
from a few missing teeth. Not too hard to replace. My RR window is
clunking too, so off to the junkyard to see if there's a good one there.

The Turbo rebuild kit came in, yet I'll get to that later.
I also have a bunch of suspension parts for my wives Volvo, so I'll be
busy for a bit.

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA



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[diesel_mercedes] A/C repaired and window regulator

 

I had the A/C repaired the other day, and now it's nice and cold,
perfect for my trip to NoCal coming up, as well as other trips inland to
the lands of summer heat. It was out for 2yrs, and around here it'll be
nice too, especially for my wife's Scottish relatives that are coming
out here soon. What do they know about heat? The cost is best described
as "the high cost of cold air."

Yesterday, I replaced the window regulator on my LR window, and now it
moved nice and smooth. Removing the old one, I noticed the clunking was
from a few missing teeth. Not too hard to replace. My RR window is
clunking too, so off to the junkyard to see if there's a good one there.

The Turbo rebuild kit came in, yet I'll get to that later.
I also have a bunch of suspension parts for my wives Volvo, so I'll be
busy for a bit.

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Glow plug issues

 

Just trying to get my head around this - in Mary, the glow plugs work fine and dandy 95% of the time. It is the "other 3%" that bothers me. No problems when it has been sitting for a couple of hours, or when the engine is hot. Light comes on, glow plugs heat up, and away we go. But, every now and then, when you least expect it, no light, and I have to start it via compression. Now, I have set of glow plugs laying around so it would be easy to change them out. But, that would not solve the mystery, and you know how much we like to solve mysteries.

BTW, here is another mystery. Yesterday I changed the oil and filter in Mary - and dropped one of the nuts holding down the oil filter cap. The mystery is "where do all of these dropped nuts and bolts go when they fall down into the dark recesses of the engine compartment. Maybe everything should be chromed so they are visible. But, it proved once again how important it is to order an inventory of nuts and bolts and keep them handy. Of course, once I put a new nut on the cap and moved the car, I found the old nut laying on the ground.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: "okldboy@yahoo.com" <okldboy@yahoo.com>
To: "czulli@gmail.com" <czulli@gmail.com>; "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 7:19 AM
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Glow plug issues

 
Hi all
Mine did this and replacing the glow plugs cured it. Does not make sense to me that the light would work intermittently but nevertheless replacing them worked. Car also started better and idled more smoothly.

Andrew


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From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>;
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Glow plug issues
Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2013 2:29:03 PM

 
So...I had been having this recurring problem of burning out the 70A fuse block on my relay every few weeks in my 1982 300CD turbo. I probably put in 8 different fuses in a 6 month period of time.

Then I got to looking at the two screw mounts for that fuse bar and found one of the two screws with a good but of tarnish and corrosion. I took out the screw and both washers and really polished them back to new again along with the copper bottom of the relay itself. Put it all back together and I have not had to replace the fuse link since. It has been maybe 6 months of the 70A bar fuse holding without replacement.

But...there are now occasions when my glow plug light on the dash will not come on. On those occasions I have to start the car without the aide of glow plugs and it takes a good bit of fast cranking before she fires up. (good thing I live in Houston in this summer heat)

So I am still thinking it is something in the relay that does not always get power over to the glow plugs or the ignition might not be feeding power to the relay block.

I would love to have some ideas from the board about what might be going on.

Chip
Houston


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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Glow plug issues

 

Hi all
Mine did this and replacing the glow plugs cured it. Does not make sense to me that the light would work intermittently but nevertheless replacing them worked. Car also started better and idled more smoothly.

Andrew


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From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>;
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Glow plug issues
Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2013 2:29:03 PM

 

So...I had been having this recurring problem of burning out the 70A fuse block on my relay every few weeks in my 1982 300CD turbo. I probably put in 8 different fuses in a 6 month period of time.

Then I got to looking at the two screw mounts for that fuse bar and found one of the two screws with a good but of tarnish and corrosion. I took out the screw and both washers and really polished them back to new again along with the copper bottom of the relay itself. Put it all back together and I have not had to replace the fuse link since. It has been maybe 6 months of the 70A bar fuse holding without replacement.

But...there are now occasions when my glow plug light on the dash will not come on. On those occasions I have to start the car without the aide of glow plugs and it takes a good bit of fast cranking before she fires up. (good thing I live in Houston in this summer heat)

So I am still thinking it is something in the relay that does not always get power over to the glow plugs or the ignition might not be feeding power to the relay block.

I would love to have some ideas from the board about what might be going on.

Chip
Houston

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