Re: [diesel_mercedes] It is alive!

 

Ben, 
 
    FIRST, remember not to over complicate. 
 
    The symptoms you describe are bad water circulation symptoms.  Not Klima control symptoms.  Not AC symptoms.  In fact, the fact that your heat and defrost seem to be working is a vote in favor of it NOT being a Klima system-related issue. 
 
    Do the basics.  Figure out why water is not circulating adequately in your cooling system. 
 
    When you did the valves, did you also do a citrus flush on the cooling system?  If it's a 1979, you have had plenty of time for crud to build up, clog things, etc. 
 
    What about the thermostat?  Is it the proper temperature?  Is it opening (you can check it in a mug of boiling water)? 
 
    What is a "once over" in a radiator shop?  Did that include a citrus bath, rodding out or some other means of ensuring that it isn't clogged after more than 30 years of use? 
 
    Worse thought: While the engine was opened up for work, did a rag get used to stop up a leaky water jacket port, but not pulled when you put things back together? 
 
    Get one of those cheap IR thermometers and point it around the engine.  See if there is any part that it getting hotter.  Maybe you can find an error. 
 
    You DID connect the radiator lines back correctly, not backward, didn't you? 
 
    Sometimes, air pockets can form in the system.  There are archive posts about addressing this issue. 
 
Best of luck with it, 
Tom
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/27/2011 5:35:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bgiovan@cavtel.net writes:
 

Fired up the 300SD and cranked on the second try. Yay! Only took me 8 months to get it put back together.

Various nit pick issues which I can handle but one has me stumped. 1979 300SD (W116) with the lovely ACC/Chrysler Airtemp. If I run with the defrost on HIGH and heat on MAX, the car will hover around 100C. As soon as I turn off the defrost (because I'm boiling), the temp starts to climb. Then I chicken out, crank up the heat and it settles back to 100C.

History - bought the car from an old cat in Gainesville, FL back last December. Great shape but blown headgasket.

What I've done over the last 8+ months:
Professionally rebuilt head with all new innards
New 1985 Cam
Rebuilt starter
New water pump, new Meyle 7 blade plastic fan and clutch
Rebuilt vacuum pump
Rebuilt turbo
Sent radiator out to radiator shop for once-over.
Various "while I'm in there I might as well's"

Thoughts on the cooling issue? AC doesn't seem to want to engage from inside and being the dreaded Airtemp, not sure where to start.

Ben near Detroit

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] It is alive!

 

On 9/27/2011 5:34 PM, bgiovan wrote:
>
> Various nit pick issues which I can handle but one has me stumped.
> 1979 300SD (W116) with the lovely ACC/Chrysler Airtemp. If I run with
> the defrost on HIGH and heat on MAX, the car will hover around 100C.
> As soon as I turn off the defrost (because I'm boiling), the temp
> starts to climb. Then I chicken out, crank up the heat and it settles
> back to 100C.

my 83 240D only runs the electric fan when the
AC is on. Temp gauge is lower in hot weather if I have the AC on.

--
Stan George Portland <<

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[diesel_mercedes] It is alive!

 

Fired up the 300SD and cranked on the second try. Yay! Only took me 8 months to get it put back together.

Various nit pick issues which I can handle but one has me stumped. 1979 300SD (W116) with the lovely ACC/Chrysler Airtemp. If I run with the defrost on HIGH and heat on MAX, the car will hover around 100C. As soon as I turn off the defrost (because I'm boiling), the temp starts to climb. Then I chicken out, crank up the heat and it settles back to 100C.

History - bought the car from an old cat in Gainesville, FL back last December. Great shape but blown headgasket.

What I've done over the last 8+ months:
Professionally rebuilt head with all new innards
New 1985 Cam
Rebuilt starter
New water pump, new Meyle 7 blade plastic fan and clutch
Rebuilt vacuum pump
Rebuilt turbo
Sent radiator out to radiator shop for once-over.
Various "while I'm in there I might as well's"

Thoughts on the cooling issue? AC doesn't seem to want to engage from inside and being the dreaded Airtemp, not sure where to start.

Ben near Detroit

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze

 

radiator,thermostat housing,heater core?

From: max_stemple <jasperezra@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:57 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze

 
yEA BUT, Mercedes have no aluminum, do they? Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Nate Rector <tccservice111@...> wrote:
>
> MB fluid is low silicate,and not harmful to aluminum.However plenty after market brands do the same.
>  
>
> From: max_stemple <jasperezra@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:07 PM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze
>
>
>  
>
> So, speaking of anti freeze, would someone please tell me again why we need to use MB anti freeze, the orange stuff? It's time to test or change for me, and I've never used anything but green stuff. I've had MB diesel since 1976. So why should we use orange stuff? Max
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze

 

Thats Wal-Mart brand. Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Nate Rector <tccservice111@...> wrote:
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> I switched to Super Tech 15w40.Cheaper and does the job.
>
>
> From: BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...>
> To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze
>
>
>  
>
> Orange is prettier?
>
> OK - here is the real news. In Honor of Mark's birthday, Autozone has Shell Rotella on sale today (and maybe the rest of the week too). A gallon for $12.99 reduced from $17.99 - a $5.00 savings. I was going to get a couple of quarts, but the sale price convinced me to splurge. I'm not going to change oil until November or December but I am tempted to grab a few more (8 quarts x 2 cars = 16 quarts = 4 gallons x $13 = $52).
>
> brian from la verne, ca
>
> From: max_stemple <jasperezra@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:07 PM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze
>
>
>  
> So, speaking of anti freeze, would someone please tell me again why we need to use MB anti freeze, the orange stuff? It's time to test or change for me, and I've never used anything but green stuff. I've had MB diesel since 1976. So why should we use orange stuff? Max
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze

 

Wow. Holy crap. We ARE in the future. Last year, or maybe the year before, Wal-Mart had Delo on sell, for something, I can't remember now, but it was a good price I bought about 20 gallons and still have most of em. Now I am really glad. Plus I just found a 55 gallon drum of diesel I've had for about 5 years. I guess I better use it. Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> Orange is prettier?
>
> OK - here is the real news. In Honor of Mark's birthday, Autozone has Shell Rotella on sale today (and maybe the rest of the week too). A gallon for $12.99 reduced from $17.99 - a $5.00 savings. I was going to get a couple of quarts, but the sale price convinced me to splurge. I'm not going to change oil until November or December but I am tempted to grab a few more (8 quarts x 2 cars = 16 quarts = 4 gallons x $13 = $52).
>
>  
> brian from la verne, ca
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: max_stemple <jasperezra@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:07 PM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze
>
>
>  
> So, speaking of anti freeze, would someone please tell me again why we need to use MB anti freeze, the orange stuff? It's time to test or change for me, and I've never used anything but green stuff. I've had MB diesel since 1976. So why should we use orange stuff? Max
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze

 

yEA BUT, Mercedes have no aluminum, do they? Max

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Nate Rector <tccservice111@...> wrote:
>
> MB fluid is low silicate,and not harmful to aluminum.However plenty after market brands do the same.
>  
>
> From: max_stemple <jasperezra@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:07 PM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Any one Remember ? Whats with the Cost of Coolant / Antifreeze
>
>
>  
>
> So, speaking of anti freeze, would someone please tell me again why we need to use MB anti freeze, the orange stuff? It's time to test or change for me, and I've never used anything but green stuff. I've had MB diesel since 1976. So why should we use orange stuff? Max
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