On 11/30/2011 7:39 PM, audiolaw@aol.com wrote:
I believe it is "air powered".Is it diesel, I didn't see any ignition system?
It is TOTALLY kool! But: Why pushrods instead of overhead cams? Is it diesel, I didn't see any ignition system? Tom In a message dated 11/30/2011 9:44:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, vwnate1@yahoo.com writes:
In case anyone ever wondered what a Master Machinist means....
-Nate
Chip wrote:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YfTtGCsiD8
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On 11/30/2011 9:53 AM, Mark in Lakewood, CO wrote:
Yeah, but starters usually last longer than light bulbs.HA! Child's play, in both cases. Look up "Northstar Starter Removal". The starter's buried inside the engine, between the cylinder banks, UNDER the intake manifold.
Mark in Lakewood, CO
From: "Nate" <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:55:16 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Design News - Made by Monkeys - Malibu Headlamp Replacement Necessitates Bumper Removal
Welcome to the hell that is being a Dealer Mechanic .
This is nothing new , look up " Ford Y Block Starter Removal " that involved rubbing the backs on your hands on the hot exhaust manifold because back in the day , Mechanic's were not allowed to wait for the engine to cool off , they fixed it right then .
-Nate
Alan wrote:
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> http://www.designnews.com/author.asp?section_id=1367&doc_id=235968
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>YOU THINK WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH HEATER SYSTEMS ETC, LOOK AT THIS.
>
What Was Right: body style of the w123, it has grown more appealing with age; the 5 cylinder diesel engine; the exhaust system that seems to last forever; and MB Tex material on the seats.
What Was Wrong: The dash, and what ever it is made of; vacuum locking system; everything Klim; and god awful yellow fog light in front.
1. I may forget to close the garage door
2. I am lousy at backing up
3. When I charge the battery overnight (see prior posts re: electrical)the charger would be close to the street for someone to borrow
4. Less of a chance for someone to steal my star
5. When people see the front of my great looking car, they are going to think I am rich, and try to break in to the house. (We can legally shoot them protecting our property, or if they are in the back yard after dark.
All kidding aside, I have just done it for the last year. I just have to get rid of some junk in the garage. Item 4 is probably the real reason. And the driveway probably goes up maybe 3 feet the whole length of the driveway.
Chuck
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
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> Chuck, why not park nose downhill instead of nose uphill?
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> brian from la verne, ca
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> From: c24052000 <jcrcpa@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:38 AM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: (unknown)
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> Ben, my rear footwell flood was caused by leaves in the engine area under the fuse box and other areas. I shop vac'd them out and so far no more leaks. So if the sunroof seal does not fix it, be sure the wells and drains below the front window are clear. I think I can now re-install the panel below the steering wheel.
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> Note I park in a driveway where the front of the car is uphill. Which is why the water, seeking the path of least resistance, travelled down the wire channel to the rear footwell.
>
> Chuck
> car in shop to find that electrical drain.
> They are thinking it is probably the "lousy" alternator put in by firestone.
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "bgiovan@" <bgiovan@> wrote:
> >
> > Sadly, they're going after Mac's now too. Mark, ever have to deal with
> > water in the left rear footwell on the SD?
> >
> > Got me a leak!
> >
> > Ben near Detroit.
> >
> > On 11/30/2011 9:46 AM, Mark in Lakewood, CO wrote:
> > > I run MacOS and have no fear....
> > >
> > > Mark in Lakewood, CO
> > > *From: *"oldsinner111" <tccservice111@>
> > > *To: *"diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
> > > *Sent: *Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:36:42 AM
> > > *Subject: *[diesel_mercedes] (unknown)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't click links without a explanation.To many viruses
> > >
> > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>, Louis Companys
> > > <companys@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://gelatobio.eu/qwertyuasz.html
> > > >
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The hardest part of the Machine work was the crankshaft , it shows him turning it on the lathe .
It is a 6 throw crank as it uses double bearings on each rod journal .
I was wondering how it ran sans piston rings , he made the ring lands but left them empty .
-Nate
Stan wrote:
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> On 11/30/2011 9:44 AM, Nate wrote:
> > In case anyone ever wondered what a Master Machinist means....
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>
> I would have liked to see the milling and lathe work. Watching him
> assemble was fascinating but I can't conceive the machining involved.
>
> --
> Stan George Portland <<
>
IIRC ;
The drains comprise of plastic tubes that run from the sunroof tray down the 'C' pillars and exit the body via the pinchwelds in front of the rear wheel openings , (look in your parts car) ~ if so , it'll be a simple thing to gently blow air in the bottoms until the dirt comes loose then flush back down and out again , this might take a few tires but beats ruining an otherwise good original headliner .
That's how we did them back in the Dealer when I were young .
Semi - flexible wires or old speedo cable centers run up from below works well too , once the tube is open , the rest of the dirt usually runs out easily with a bit of water .
-Nate
Ben wrote:
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> We got 2" of rain yesterday and found out the sunroof leaks (wet butt)
> then found Lake Huron behind the driver's seat. Tom Hanson hooked me up
> with new seals yesterday and unfortunately need to drop the headliner
> and sunroof tray to clear the rear drain hoses and install the new
> seals. I'll report back. Luckily I have the '80 SD parts car carcass
> in my warehouse to use as a guide.
>
> Ben near Detroit.
>
> On 11/30/2011 10:16 AM, Mark in Lakewood, CO wrote:
> > TRYING to go after Macs. After nearly 30-years on Mac OS's, I still
> > haven't encountered anything....
> >
> > Yeah, a little water in the rear footwells. Front footwells, too. My
> > car is from Sunny and Rubber-Rotting San Diego (La Jolla, actually),
> > and both of my windshield grommets are completely trashed. The car
> > whistles Dixie through the various tuned orifices in the front anytime
> > I get it over 45-mph. Then there's the greyish black rocky chunks
> > that were once the sunroof seal. Luckily, I live where the high and
> > dry desert plains meet the Rocky Mountains: On average, we get about
> > 2-inches more precipitation per year than a full-on desert. I'd have
> > a real problem if I lived in a climate where rain and snow are a
> > common occurrence. As it is, only the trunk lakes up somewhat badly.
> >
> > Mark in Lakewood, CO
> > *From: *bgiovan@...
> > *To: *"diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:47:49 AM
> > *Subject: *Re: [diesel_mercedes] (unknown)
> >
> > Sadly, they're going after Mac's now too. Mark, ever have to deal with
> > water in the left rear footwell on the SD?
> >
> > Got me a leak!
> >
> > Ben near Detroit.
> >
> > On 11/30/2011 9:46 AM, Mark in Lakewood, CO wrote:
> > > I run MacOS and have no fear....
> > >
> > > Mark in Lakewood, CO
> > > *From: *"oldsinner111" <tccservice111@...
> > <mailto:tccservice111%40yahoo.com>>
> > > *To: *"diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > *Sent: *Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:36:42 AM
> > > *Subject: *[diesel_mercedes] (unknown)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't click links without a explanation.To many viruses
> > >
> > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>, Louis Companys
> > > <companys@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://gelatobio.eu/qwertyuasz.html
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Yeah ;
that's what the bozos who ruined the engine in my '84 300CD thought too.
So , I got the car cheaply and only needed to rebuild the engine for $5,000.00 plus shocks , tires , radio , belts & hoses and on and on...
No veggie fuel nonsense for me because I'm lazy and will skip important filtration steps once I get tired of the routine .
-Nate
Jim wrote:
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> I think it's too much effort. Perfection is rarely necessary.
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> Jim
>
Yes BUT :
Not all 27MM deep sockets will fit the fuel injectors ! I wound up buying two before I got the correct one .
Remember when you're turning the engine by hand , to always remove the socket and wrench because if you forget it , damage will occur when the engine is started .
If you can find an old injector (most have spares) clean it up and take it to the tool store & test fit it before buying .
I *think* I bought a Craftsman 6 point 1/2" drive one for this job .
I buy my Craftsman tools @ OSH Hwe. because they're cheaper there than at SEARS , same tools tough .
Lifetime guaranty too ! , no receipt needed .
-Nate
Caitlin wrote:
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> Can I use a 27mm deep socket on the crankshaft AND to remove/install injectors on my OM617 300SD?
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> My next big (for me) task is the valve clearance adjustment and I don't have tools to turn the engine (or know how to do it without tools, like the turn the key and hunt method) AND I will want to check and clean my injectors at some point (and maybe seek spares at a PAP) and I've gotten the impression the 27mm deep socket would work for both purposes...true?
>
> Thanks!
> Caitlin
>
You'd be surprised to hear how many people tell me I should write a book because I always try to flesh out my Tech Advice with real life stories....
I do have a nice old 1949 Chevrolet 3100 Series 1/2 tin pickup with a 235 6 cylinder engine , it's now for sale...
Good unrestored shape , as with all my vehicles it's been to Death Valley and beyond , fully loaded , towing , so on and so forth .
-Nate
Max wrote:
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> Maybe you could think about writing a novel. The exploits of you and Nate or something. One of my dreams was(before my body slipped into a state of not being able to do theses things by myself anymore) was to get a OLD Chevy pickup, either a 1948 to 1953, or a 1940's something, and to put a 5 cylinder Mercedes turbo into it. Wow, that would be a cool truck to drive into town once in a while. But now I'm just a dreamer. Having to leave the farm and all. Max
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, audiolaw@ wrote:
> >
> > Max,
> >
> > You have NO idea! Nate's deaf as a post (actually, that may be mean
> > to posts) so he can cruise along with window's wide open and the roar of the
> > wind (that he can't hear) trying to burst ear drums. Since I still
> > consult, occasionally, on music mixes and sound tracks, I'm not so cool with
> > that.
> >
> > Of course, in the 1/2 century this truck has been working, no one
> > thought about replacing the worn out window channels. So the windows rattle
> > like snare drums even when rolled up. And this particular design was never
> > equipped with any sound deadening on the broad expanses of sheet metal. So
> > instead of sitting in an environment like a 126 or 123, it's like sitting
> > inside a drum.
> >
> > Nate won't buy any vehicle unless he first has convinced himself that
> > it has a good variety of obscure mechanical, electrical and other issues to
> > confound him for a few months. So this one, which is an automatic,
> > converted from originally being a manual, had an f-'d up column. Watching him
> > struggle to get it into or out of gear was a pretty good reminder of the
> > truism "white men can't dance." (Of course, once we got it home, he just
> > disassembled the steering column, replaced the various broken bits, and made it
> > work like new.)
> >
> > It wouldn't be a real vehicle for a long trip if the instruments
> > worked, or even the instrument lighting. So we spent plenty of time in the
> > evening with Nate squinting at the dash, trying to figure out what was going on
> > (like, 'can we get to the next gas station (100 miles ahead) on the
> > indicated 1/16 tank left?') Or, 'is that wisp of smoke curling up out of the
> > dash really a bad thing or just something that smells bad?
> >
> > Actually, now that I reminisce about the trip, I have to admit that
> > the passenger's side of the cab might have been a little quieter than the
> > driver's side, because the leaves packed into the fresh air inlet, vent, HVAC
> > system, etc. were so dense that they had to have some damping effect on the
> > various panels of sheet metal (It really doesn't have an "HVAC" system,
> > just a heater, with broken controls.)
> >
> > But it was a good trip. Especially things like getting stopped by the
> > gate guards at the White Sands Missle range in N.M. and seeing that the
> > construction of a lot of the '60s vintage missles in their museum area had
> > about the same build quality as a GM truck of that period. Amazing that we
> > ever won the Cold War.
> >
> > The mileage will improve when Nate gets the silly after market 15"
> > wheels off of it and puts some real wheels and tires on it.
> >
> > This past weekend, we found the same truck in a junkyard and recovered
> > the heater controls, so maybe it will not be an icebox during the upcoming
> > winter. And the proper door latch shims, so the doors will close without
> > damaging their latches (this is the kind of little stuff that Nate obsesses
> > on, that most people ignore - which is why Nate's rides last so long).
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/29/2011 3:35:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > jasperezra@ writes:
> >
> > 50 degrees, cold?. Ho Ho, you guys crack me up. You must of had a great
> > drive back from Texas. Gad, 13 mpg. My 460 Ford gets so bad all it does is
> > plow snow and haul firewood. Have no even licensed it for 10 years or so.Max
> >
> > --- In _diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> > (mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) , "Nate" <vwnate1@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Recently Tom and I went to Dallas TEXAS where I bought an old 1969 Chevy
> > C/10 pickup truck and drove it back to L.A. , having fun ever since
> > tinkering with it , repairing the many DPO & DPM bodges & deferred maintenance
> > items , driving it instead of my trusty 1984 300CD Sports Coupe .
> > >
> >
>
Sid ;
IIRC , the windows work by having power to the motors then the switch actually reverses the ground path...
Just looking at the color codes of the wires on the other , still assembled switches oughta get you going again .
-Nate
Sid wrote:
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> I just bought my 300SD from Charlotte, N.C. this summer. The odometer had alreadt stopped, at 256K The AC still works, the power door locks still work, and the vacuum system holds good...the rear windows had just quit, and now the driver's window is down 1/4" and I can't see how I am going to get power to it to raise it. Is there a schematic for the window switches? I popped one of the rear ones apart, not knowing all the wires would become seperate!! I guess I can pull the oyher rear switch and see the order that one is in, and replace the others to their rightful order. I don't need them to open anyhow, but the driver's window would be nice! Maybe I can canabilize the rear to fix the driver window!
> Have to understand the problem before I pull anything else apart.
> Oh, BTW, the car had 5 brand new Michelins on it, and a 6th wheel with an almost new tire on it! Once they salt the roads, I won't drive it till spring. It is too nice to destroy by roadsalt. It would be like a death sentence for it.
> Sid, near Niagara Falls, NY
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "max_stemple" <jasperezra@> wrote:
> >
> > My door locks on my 1980 240 still work fine, still hold vacuum for days after shutting down. The car could use new door seals though. Max
> >
> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Chip" <czulli@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't suppose anyone on this board has been with their 240 or 300 d since the beginning. Yet I am curious when the onset of age was apparent in these cars. Did the doors stop locking 10 years from new? The transmission start "flaring" after 15 years? The rough idle until 20 years?
> > >
> > > The problems seem so predictable now, we all post in about the same shit. (me excepted because I drag race mine)
> > >
> > > But who among us has lived through the aging process of these great cars. Was the first 20 years flawless?
> > >
> > > Someone please tell us of the early years, when sun roofs flew open and shut and not a cracked dash to be found.
> > >
> > > Chip
> > > Houston
> > >
> >
>
