Re: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help

 

I'm finding out that the turbo engine has oil sprayed under the piston to cool it and the compression need to be lower but I thought that was on gas motors does the diesel take a higher compression to run I though that it was that way but I now nothing, thanks anyway. 

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On Apr 4, 2011, at 10:58 PM, briankk <briankk@att.net> wrote:

 

The non-turbo engine has 23:1 cr, the turbo engine is 21:1, I think the difference is in the pistons..

bk

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From: barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 3:57 PM

 

Hi guys
I just found my self buying a 1979 300d 123
and then I found a turbo set up all the parts are there everything off a 79 turbo 300D what's the chance I can put it on my car with not a lot of trouble.
Is there a big difference between the two engines? Please someone give me some good news. Thank you for any advice you could give.
Barry,

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help

 

Thanks I'm trying to see what can be done

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On Apr 4, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Bogy Wan Kenobi <polespearbogy@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Not a good idea to put a turbo on a n/a engine. the n\a engines have a higher compression and may not be able to handle the (even) higher pressures a turbo would produce. Also, the turbo engines have an oil sprayer under the pistons to help remove heat that the n\a engines don't have. just my $0.02

Bogy.

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From: barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 6:57 PM

Hi guys
I just found my self buying a 1979 300d 123
and then I found a turbo set up all the parts are there everything off a 79 turbo 300D what's the chance I can put it on my car with not a lot of trouble.
Is there a big difference between the two engines? Please someone give me some good news.  Thank you for any advice you could give.
Barry,

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help

 

I found a page on this web site telling me it would damage the engine, what could happen? If I try could the engine be damage past repair? I only have 140.000 on this engine it is gutless and need one more gear I was thinking of a rebuild and putting in a small truck with a standard behind stand maybe a gear vender over drive it is a over and under gear set up hoping that the lighter truck and then some mod's that are out there for diesel engine I could make a truck that may get 40to 50 miles a gallon what do you think can it be done or I'm I over thinking this?

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On Apr 4, 2011, at 10:58 PM, briankk <briankk@att.net> wrote:

 

The non-turbo engine has 23:1 cr, the turbo engine is 21:1, I think the difference is in the pistons..

bk

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com> wrote:

From: barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 3:57 PM

 

Hi guys
I just found my self buying a 1979 300d 123
and then I found a turbo set up all the parts are there everything off a 79 turbo 300D what's the chance I can put it on my car with not a lot of trouble.
Is there a big difference between the two engines? Please someone give me some good news. Thank you for any advice you could give.
Barry,

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help

 

The non-turbo engine has 23:1 cr, the turbo engine is 21:1, I think the difference is in the pistons..

bk

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com> wrote:

From: barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 3:57 PM

 

Hi guys
I just found my self buying a 1979 300d 123
and then I found a turbo set up all the parts are there everything off a 79 turbo 300D what's the chance I can put it on my car with not a lot of trouble.
Is there a big difference between the two engines? Please someone give me some good news. Thank you for any advice you could give.
Barry,

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help

 

Not a good idea to put a turbo on a n/a engine. the n\a engines have a higher compression and may not be able to handle the (even) higher pressures a turbo would produce. Also, the turbo engines have an oil sprayer under the pistons to help remove heat that the n\a engines don't have. just my $0.02

Bogy.

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com> wrote:

From: barryedwards61 <duckn8r@me.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 6:57 PM

Hi guys
I just found my self buying a 1979 300d 123
and then I found a turbo set up all the parts are there everything off a 79 turbo 300D what's the chance I can put it on my car with not a lot of trouble.
Is there a big difference between the two engines? Please someone give me some good news.  Thank you for any advice you could give.
Barry,

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help

 

Barry:
welcome:

One thing I'm pretty sure about is the skirting and oil cooling for turbo
models is different than non turbo, on the pistons.

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From: "barryedwards61" <duckn8r@me.com>
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 3:57 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help

Hi guys
I just found my self buying a 1979 300d 123
and then I found a turbo set up all the parts are there everything off a 79
turbo 300D what's the chance I can put it on my car with not a lot of
trouble.
Is there a big difference between the two engines? Please someone give me
some good news. Thank you for any advice you could give.
Barry,

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1987 MB 300 SDL Ignition Lock Problem

 

You need a new tumbler for sure and you might end up needing a new lock along with it if you don't get the tumbler out of there before it locks up on you permanently. Please contact me at the office for more details.
 
Tom Hanson
Mercedes Benz Classic Center USA
MBUSA, LLC
thomas.hanson@mbusa.com
949 598-4842 direct
949 598-4870 fax



From: rv_jeff <rv_jeff@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 7:49:44 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1987 MB 300 SDL Ignition Lock Problem

 

My ignition lock locked up twice last week. I still had about an inch of play in the steering wheel but no play with the key in the lock. The mechanic (not a MB shop) said my lock is old (probably the original from 1987) and replacing it should take care of the problem. I paid $340 and picked the car up on Friday.

Today (Saturday), I had the same problem occur in a low shopping mall garage. No tow truck fits under that low roof. It took about 20 (twenty) minutes of trying to get the lock to release and turn again. I started the car and drove home to feed my animals. When I wanted to start the car again the iginiton lock was stuck again.

I tend to think there was nothing wrong with the old lock and the problem was misdiagnosed. What do you think the real problem is ?
Jeff

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[diesel_mercedes] Doing some R&D need your help

 

Hi guys
I just found my self buying a 1979 300d 123
and then I found a turbo set up all the parts are there everything off a 79 turbo 300D what's the chance I can put it on my car with not a lot of trouble.
Is there a big difference between the two engines? Please someone give me some good news. Thank you for any advice you could give.
Barry,

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[diesel_mercedes] I love it !

 

Licensed the Mercedes today, went for a 10 min drive, what a car! I think the LV PAP mono valve did the trick, had warmies all the way! After driving the Toyota all winter, i have DAGTH.

Max looked all over Coleville for you, we were in the Toyota, parked one night at the Chewella Casino, second night we were guests of the Walton Family, at their Coleville campground.

Wahoo, got my car back for the summer.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Best injector pump shutoff solenoid.

 

Lawrence, this is a loaded question depending how fat your wallet is. If I am broke, I head for Autohaus or a PAP. If my wife have given me some play money and I am flush, I go for Classic Center and Mercedes Source. And sometimes I go in between cheap and whatever. My personal philosophy is that you usually get what you pay for - and in that most MB repairs are going to survive another 25 years, I want good quality over good price. However, a new shut off valve does not strike me the same way as a new radiator. Anyway, it is like the computer parts in recent threads - I had to balance (a) cheap price, (b) shipping & handling costs, (c) tax or no tax, (d) driving to Fry's and using 1 gallon of fuel, and all that stuff. It was a close call, but I went with Amazon (I think, maybe it was Newegg). When things get down to $5 either way, I try to support Mercedes Source because I want more videos on utube.
 
brian from la verne, ca



From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobassoon@sbcglobal.net>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 8:44:42 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Best injector pump shutoff solenoid.

 

I'm going to buy a shutoff valve.  There is an ebay seller with a 59 buck one
with gaskets for 1.50 each you need two.  Autohaus AZ for 72 bucks for the Bosch
and others at varying prices.  What is the best value?  Lawrence Rhodes....

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[diesel_mercedes] Best injector pump shutoff solenoid.

 

I'm going to buy a shutoff valve.  There is an ebay seller with a 59 buck one
with gaskets for 1.50 each you need two.  Autohaus AZ for 72 bucks for the Bosch
and others at varying prices.  What is the best value?  Lawrence Rhodes....

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Ubuntu

 

I'm not trying to convince you. The OS is loaded to the pc's memory and runs from there, primarily; the settings are saved at power down and the boot time is consistent with XP Professional. I use it to surf the web and watch videos on a cheap Acer brand P4 machine; performs as well as my Dell P4 4 gig with 2 Meg Ram running XP.
 
The older versions of linux were not as reliable; Red Hat 7.0 was the best of the mainstream versions (IMO). Puppy Linux will run similarly to Ubuntu but uses less memory but can be a bit buggy.
 
From what I understand, it is possible to run a virtual pc from a thumbdrive including the apps; I don't know the details but it allows for creating a familiar computing environment while on a foreign machine.

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From: Old Grumpy <grumpygubbe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Ubuntu
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 10:46 AM



But it's much slower running from the thumb drive or Live CD rather than importing it onto the hard drive. But if your HD is bust or you just want to check Ubuntu out without changing anything - way to go.

2011/4/4 john public <brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com>


I fired up my windows machine, went to the bootable Ubuntu site, put a thumbdrive in the pc and downloaded the OS. Took the thumbdrive out of the pc, stuffed it into my lapdrive USB port and the laptop fires up using Ubuntu, from the thumbdrive. The laptop has a non-functioning harddrive that isn't worth the $ to fix.  Couldn't be more simple.
 
BTW, a bootable version can be burned to CD that can be used to fire up your pc, also; since it cannot be written to, it is a safer way to access bank accounts, tranfer funds etc. (IMHO, of course).

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From: briankk <briankk@att.net>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Ubuntu
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 11:50 AM



This what I meant by "A certain amount of hand-holding.."

When I upgraded from open SUSE 11.3 to 11.4, I had to find and go to the site that provides the upgrade, download the file, specifying the appropriate format (12 hr download), then start the CD burner, insert a new DVD, burn the upgrade, remove the burned disk, and re-start the computer. Upon re-boot, access the Bios settings, change the startup device from the HD to the CD drive, re-boot again, insert the DVD in the CD drive, and follow the upgrade instructions as provided on the screen.  When the upgrade is finished, re-boot again, re-select the hard drive as the first boot device, close the Bios, re-boot, and Bob's your uncle.

The majority of folk who are pissed at MS and would like to change, don't even know what I'm talking about, let alone how to do it, and there' the problem...

bk

Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 8:26 AM


THANX ! .

This sounds interesting but I dunno how to do it.... the startup device from

--- On Sun, 4/3/11, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Ubuntu
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 8:26 AM

 

THANX ! .

This sounds interesting but I dunno how to do it....








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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Ubuntu

 

But it's much slower running from the thumb drive or Live CD rather than importing it onto the hard drive. But if your HD is bust or you just want to check Ubuntu out without changing anything - way to go.

2011/4/4 john public <brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com>


I fired up my windows machine, went to the bootable Ubuntu site, put a thumbdrive in the pc and downloaded the OS. Took the thumbdrive out of the pc, stuffed it into my lapdrive USB port and the laptop fires up using Ubuntu, from the thumbdrive. The laptop has a non-functioning harddrive that isn't worth the $ to fix.  Couldn't be more simple.
 
BTW, a bootable version can be burned to CD that can be used to fire up your pc, also; since it cannot be written to, it is a safer way to access bank accounts, tranfer funds etc. (IMHO, of course).

--- On Sun, 4/3/11, briankk <briankk@att.net> wrote:

From: briankk <briankk@att.net>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Ubuntu
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 11:50 AM



This what I meant by "A certain amount of hand-holding.."

When I upgraded from open SUSE 11.3 to 11.4, I had to find and go to the site that provides the upgrade, download the file, specifying the appropriate format (12 hr download), then start the CD burner, insert a new DVD, burn the upgrade, remove the burned disk, and re-start the computer. Upon re-boot, access the Bios settings, change the startup device from the HD to the CD drive, re-boot again, insert the DVD in the CD drive, and follow the upgrade instructions as provided on the screen.  When the upgrade is finished, re-boot again, re-select the hard drive as the first boot device, close the Bios, re-boot, and Bob's your uncle.

The majority of folk who are pissed at MS and would like to change, don't even know what I'm talking about, let alone how to do it, and there' the problem...

bk

Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 8:26 AM


THANX ! .

This sounds interesting but I dunno how to do it.... the startup device from

--- On Sun, 4/3/11, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Ubuntu
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 8:26 AM

 

THANX ! .

This sounds interesting but I dunno how to do it....






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