Re: [diesel_mercedes] Oil Pan skid plate

 

Trish, 
 
    On European 123s, a skid plate was standard.  Nate has one on his 300TD wagon (Euro delivery). 
 
    Try to find one in a p-a-p yard.  Scarce as hen's teeth.  I've never seen one on a 126, but Nate and I are talking about the idea, given how badly worked over most 126 oil pans seem to be. 
 
    Nate put the NEW oil pan on my 300SD this afternoon, with a new gasket.  I've got almost 100 miles on it already and no drippage apparent. 
 
Tom 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/25/2011 7:10:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, purrfectharmonyfarm@wifi45.com writes:
 

I thought this was a topic recently, but upon a search I was unable to find anything.

Has anyone put on a skid plate to protect their oil pan?

Trish Dougherty
PurrFect Harmony Farm
Ennis, TX

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] electrical gremlin

 

Sid, 
 
    STOP! 
 
    No drilling tiny holes in things.  No disassembling things and disconnecting wires before knowing what goes where, or at least being prepared to label things that you have disconnected. 
 
    At your level of knowledge, one of the most valuable and least dangerous tools you can own is a small spiral or other binding, plastic covered notebook.  In this you take notes AS you work.  You draw little diagrams of plugs and wires and list what color went to what pin, etc. 
 
    The window switches sit on your center console, where they can collect spilled coffee, soda, salt from french fries, etc. as well as just plain dust and lint from normal life. Drilling even tiny holes is calculated to aggravate any bad effects from such things.  AND is SO UNNECESSARY. 
 
    The window switches MAY be your problem  But they may not.  They come out easily.  That center console board comes out (two little screws in the back edge, if I recall correctly, then moves back and up, GENTLY.  You will see that the switches are on plugs and are pressure fit into the board.  Pressing the pressure plates on each side lets the switch lift out. 
 
    The switches can be opened and cleaned.  As with any good switch, the contacts are cleaned with electronic contact cleaner or a pencil eraser.  Anything more abrasive than a pencil eraser GUARANTEES future corrosion problems - GUARANTEES!!! 
 
    When you take the switches apart, you will discovery that they contain a variety of small springs and ball bearings, each of which is actually alive and will try to escape from you if you let it.  The trick is to do the disassembly on a CLEAN, white towel LARGER than you think that you will need, and to work in a well lit space.  If it wouldn't be guaranteed to lead to spouse-icide, I'd suggest the dining room table and your wife's best linen tablecloth as a nearly perfect environment and setting for such work. 
 
    These switches are also cheap items at any pick-a-part yard.  So grabbing a few for experimental disassembly and cleaning before you work on the ones in your car is a good idea.  (That way, you also end up with spare innards, for the ones that will escape when you disassemble the ones in your car.) 
 
    Step back and think about this.  Was the previous owner a smoker?  That could cause schmutz buildup in the switches.  But there are other possible reasons. 
 
    Have you checked the fuses, to make sure that contacts are good and you are actually getting full voltage to the switches and window motors? 
 
    You can open up the door panels and see if the window lifts are all dry.  You can apply power directly to the motors to see if they run up and down. 
 
    Everything on the car should be connected with plugs (except the damn seat position switches on early 126s, which are soldered!!!)  This means that you can rig up mirror plugs that let you power the motors from a battery or power supply, bypassing the switch, to check whether the wiring, the motor, or the lift mechanism is having any difficulty. 
 
    If you are lucky, cleaning or replacing the switches will solve your problem.  but if you start by taking things apart, without notes or any guide to how to put them back together, you are not going to be lucky.  Drilling holes in things that you don't YET know about is going to reduce your luck even further. 
 
Tom 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/25/2011 4:10:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sidcranston@yahoo.com writes:
 

Now that you have solved my shifting dilemma, I would like to attack my power window faliures.
The driver's window has been noticibly slower than the passanger's side. One day, I couldn't close it at all. Then it worked, later in the day. Now it is down 3/8ths", and annoying. I have tried the button at least 100 times. Might I be able to drill a tiny hole in the top of it and spray some good electrical contact cleaner in there and expect it to do any good?
I know when I bought the car, the seller said the rear windows had just quit working. I popped the rear switch out and was tinkering with it, and discovered that there are 6 wires to it, and I had them all over the place. I succeded in getting them back in the holder so thay can't short togeather, but not in any correct order! I am afraid to press the button back there now!
Now all I have working is the passanger's side front.
Sid, near Niagara Falls, (NY)
Where 'they' will be spreadding SALT on the roads soon! REAL soon!
This is a 1985 300 SD

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Oil Pan skid plate

 

Trish--what year and model? I put one on the '78 240D my daughter drove during high school. I don't recall where I got it, but think it was from Rusty. It bolted right on. I use a topsider for oil changes, but think there was access to remove the drain plug if needed.
John in the 208

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "patricia_dougherty" <purrfectharmonyfarm@...> wrote:
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> I thought this was a topic recently, but upon a search I was unable to find anything.
>
> Has anyone put on a skid plate to protect their oil pan?
>
> Trish Dougherty
> PurrFect Harmony Farm
> Ennis, TX
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Oil Pan skid plate

 

I thought this was a topic recently, but upon a search I was unable to find anything.

Has anyone put on a skid plate to protect their oil pan?

Trish Dougherty
PurrFect Harmony Farm
Ennis, TX

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[diesel_mercedes] electrical gremlin

 

Now that you have solved my shifting dilemma, I would like to attack my power window faliures.
The driver's window has been noticibly slower than the passanger's side. One day, I couldn't close it at all. Then it worked, later in the day. Now it is down 3/8ths", and annoying. I have tried the button at least 100 times. Might I be able to drill a tiny hole in the top of it and spray some good electrical contact cleaner in there and expect it to do any good?
I know when I bought the car, the seller said the rear windows had just quit working. I popped the rear switch out and was tinkering with it, and discovered that there are 6 wires to it, and I had them all over the place. I succeded in getting them back in the holder so thay can't short togeather, but not in any correct order! I am afraid to press the button back there now!
Now all I have working is the passanger's side front.
Sid, near Niagara Falls, (NY)
Where 'they' will be spreadding SALT on the roads soon! REAL soon!
This is a 1985 300 SD

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

 

Max,
I tried to acess some of the infomation on that service manual, but my computer can't. Am I missing a program or something?

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "max_stemple" <jasperezra@...> wrote:
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> Did I go to sleep in November and wake up in December? 1 1/2 feet of snow melted overnight so maybe something else is up.. Max
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@> wrote:
> >
> > You do know that you will need to do this, don't you?
> >
> > You can access this file at the URL:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diesel_mercedes/files/123%20Index.doc
> >
> >
> > brian from la verne, ca
> >
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: 1985 300 SD was shifting problem?

 

Up to the top, maybe 1/2" under the lid.
 
brian from la verne, ca
From: bmwsid <sidcranston@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 12:58 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: 1985 300 SD was shifting problem?
 
Hooray!!!
TO Whoever suggested it might be the switch under the acelerator pedal...Thank you!!! You nailed it. It was stuck. I removed it and sprayed several concoctions in it, while exercising it. A bit of white lithium grease was the last try, seems to have done the job. Shifts like it should again!!
The ATF in my power steering is NOT black, but how do I know how full it is supposed to be? It is barely covering the filter, and seems to be making 'low' sounds while I am steering. How full if correct?
Thanks guys!!
Sid, near Niagara Falls, NY


--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> and the w126 CD's have been posted on the w126 group site. Someone on this list is a member, but I think I buried the w126 manual on my hard drive somewhere. As Tom said, a lot of the info for both species is interchangeable - but be careful, not all. Some of the parts houses (Autohausaz, Rock) have pictures of all parts which can be handy)
>
>  
> brian from la verne, ca
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "audiolaw@..." <audiolaw@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300 SD
>
>
>  
>     btw: There is NO Haynes manual for the SD.   
>     The manual for the 123 series diesels (300 D, 300 D
> turbo, 300TD) has a lot of useful information, particularly on the engine and
> drive train, because the 300D turbo and 300TD have essentially the same engine
> as the SD (the TD has a different head, to carry a hydraulic pump for the
> suspension). 
>  
>     When you get into it, you will learn that a lot of
> parts, switches, etc. are interchangeable.  Indeed, a lot of parts on the
> SD have 123 part numbers. 
>  
> Tom, '81 300SD, 353,5++ miles. 
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/20/2011 4:32:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> bstromsoe@... writes:
>  
> >No "one" manual is perfect and covers everything. You will get a lot of opinions (which is good) - here are mine:
> >1.  This group has lots of info in the archives.
> >2.  Haynes Manual for your specific model.
> >3.  Performance Product catalog for pictures and diagrams.
> >4.  CD Manuals from Tom at Classic Center
> >5.  Google for URL's to many DIY sites including Dieselgiant
> >6.  Mercedessource for DIY videos.
> >7.  PAP yards so you can take things apart and put things back together.
> >8.  MB Star book covering 50 years of "how to fix" things Mercedes.
> >9.  Did I mention Google? Punch in whatever your issue is, e.g., "fix 1983 w123 brakes" and see what pops up (100 or so articles, many with pictures).
> >10. There are other things, but I will let other people chime in.
> >
> >
> >Go slow, take your time, enjoy your car.
> >
> >
> > 
> >brian from la verne, ca
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: bmwsid <sidcranston@...>
> >To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:19 PM
> >Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300 SD
> >
> >
> > 
> >I recently purchased this car. Which shop manual would be the best one for the car? I am not very flimiliar with most of the stuff on this car. It is my first M.B., first diesel, too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Pacific Standard Time,
> bstromsoe@... writes:
>  
> >No "one" manual is perfect and covers everything. You will get a lot of opinions (which is good) - here are mine:
> >1.  This group has lots of info in the archives.
> >2.  Haynes Manual for your specific model.
> >3.  Performance Product catalog for pictures and diagrams.
> >4.  CD Manuals from Tom at Classic Center
> >5.  Google for URL's to many DIY sites including Dieselgiant
> >6.  Mercedessource for DIY videos.
> >7.  PAP yards so you can take things apart and put things back together.
> >8.  MB Star book covering 50 years of "how to fix" things Mercedes.
> >9.  Did I mention Google? Punch in whatever your issue is, e.g., "fix 1983 w123 brakes" and see what pops up (100 or so articles, many with pictures).
> >10. There are other things, but I will let other people chime in.
> >
> >
> >Go slow, take your time, enjoy your car.
> >
> >
> > 
> >brian from la verne, ca
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: bmwsid <sidcranston@...>
> >To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:19 PM
> >Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300 SD
> >
> >
> > 
> >I recently purchased this car. Which shop manual would be the best one for the car? I am not very flimiliar with most of the stuff on this car. It is my first M.B., first diesel, too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Pacific Standard Time,
> bstromsoe@... writes:
>  
> >No "one" manual is perfect and covers everything. You will get a lot of opinions (which is good) - here are mine:
> >1.  This group has lots of info in the archives.
> >2.  Haynes Manual for your specific model.
> >3.  Performance Product catalog for pictures and diagrams.
> >4.  CD Manuals from Tom at Classic Center
> >5.  Google for URL's to many DIY sites including Dieselgiant
> >6.  Mercedessource for DIY videos.
> >7.  PAP yards so you can take things apart and put things back together.
> >8.  MB Star book covering 50 years of "how to fix" things Mercedes.
> >9.  Did I mention Google? Punch in whatever your issue is, e.g., "fix 1983 w123 brakes" and see what pops up (100 or so articles, many with pictures).
> >10. There are other things, but I will let other people chime in.
> >
> >
> >Go slow, take your time, enjoy your car.
> >
> >
> > 
> >brian from la verne, ca
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: bmwsid <sidcranston@...>
> >To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:19 PM
> >Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300 SD
> >
> >
> > 
> >I recently purchased this car. Which shop manual would be the best one for the car? I am not very flimiliar with most of the stuff on this car. It is my first M.B., first diesel, too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Pacific Standard Time,
> bstromsoe@... writes:
>  
> >No "one" manual is perfect and covers everything. You will get a lot of opinions (which is good) - here are mine:
> >1.  This group has lots of info in the archives.
> >2.  Haynes Manual for your specific model.
> >3.  Performance Product catalog for pictures and diagrams.
> >4.  CD Manuals from Tom at Classic Center
> >5.  Google for URL's to many DIY sites including Dieselgiant
> >6.  Mercedessource for DIY videos.
> >7.  PAP yards so you can take things apart and put things back together.
> >8.  MB Star book covering 50 years of "how to fix" things Mercedes.
> >9.  Did I mention Google? Punch in whatever your issue is, e.g., "fix 1983 w123 brakes" and see what pops up (100 or so articles, many with pictures).
> >10. There are other things, but I will let other people chime in.
> >
> >
> >Go slow, take your time, enjoy your car.
> >
> >
> > 
> >brian from la verne, ca
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: bmwsid <sidcranston@...>
> >To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:19 PM
> >Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300 SD
> >
> >
> > 
> >I recently purchased this car. Which shop manual would be the best one for the car? I am not very flimiliar with most of the stuff on this car. It is my first M.B., first diesel, too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



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[diesel_mercedes] Re: 1985 300 SD was shifting problem?

 

Hooray!!!
TO Whoever suggested it might be the switch under the acelerator pedal...Thank you!!! You nailed it. It was stuck. I removed it and sprayed several concoctions in it, while exercising it. A bit of white lithium grease was the last try, seems to have done the job. Shifts like it should again!!
The ATF in my power steering is NOT black, but how do I know how full it is supposed to be? It is barely covering the filter, and seems to be making 'low' sounds while I am steering. How full if correct?
Thanks guys!!
Sid, near Niagara Falls, NY


--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> and the w126 CD's have been posted on the w126 group site. Someone on this list is a member, but I think I buried the w126 manual on my hard drive somewhere. As Tom said, a lot of the info for both species is interchangeable - but be careful, not all. Some of the parts houses (Autohausaz, Rock) have pictures of all parts which can be handy)
>
>  
> brian from la verne, ca
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "audiolaw@..." <audiolaw@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300 SD
>
>
>  
>     btw: There is NO Haynes manual for the SD.   
>     The manual for the 123 series diesels (300 D, 300 D
> turbo, 300TD) has a lot of useful information, particularly on the engine and
> drive train, because the 300D turbo and 300TD have essentially the same engine
> as the SD (the TD has a different head, to carry a hydraulic pump for the
> suspension). 
>  
>     When you get into it, you will learn that a lot of
> parts, switches, etc. are interchangeable.  Indeed, a lot of parts on the
> SD have 123 part numbers. 
>  
> Tom, '81 300SD, 353,5++ miles. 
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/20/2011 4:32:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> bstromsoe@... writes:
>  
> >No "one" manual is perfect and covers everything. You will get a lot of opinions (which is good) - here are mine:
> >1.  This group has lots of info in the archives.
> >2.  Haynes Manual for your specific model.
> >3.  Performance Product catalog for pictures and diagrams.
> >4.  CD Manuals from Tom at Classic Center
> >5.  Google for URL's to many DIY sites including Dieselgiant
> >6.  Mercedessource for DIY videos.
> >7.  PAP yards so you can take things apart and put things back together.
> >8.  MB Star book covering 50 years of "how to fix" things Mercedes.
> >9.  Did I mention Google? Punch in whatever your issue is, e.g., "fix 1983 w123 brakes" and see what pops up (100 or so articles, many with pictures).
> >10. There are other things, but I will let other people chime in.
> >
> >
> >Go slow, take your time, enjoy your car.
> >
> >
> > 
> >brian from la verne, ca
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: bmwsid <sidcranston@...>
> >To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:19 PM
> >Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300 SD
> >
> >
> > 
> >I recently purchased this car. Which shop manual would be the best one for the car? I am not very flimiliar with most of the stuff on this car. It is my first M.B., first diesel, too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Pacific Standard Time,
> bstromsoe@... writes:
>  
> >No "one" manual is perfect and covers everything. You will get a lot of opinions (which is good) - here are mine:
> >1.  This group has lots of info in the archives.
> >2.  Haynes Manual for your specific model.
> >3.  Performance Product catalog for pictures and diagrams.
> >4.  CD Manuals from Tom at Classic Center
> >5.  Google for URL's to many DIY sites including Dieselgiant
> >6.  Mercedessource for DIY videos.
> >7.  PAP yards so you can take things apart and put things back together.
> >8.  MB Star book covering 50 years of "how to fix" things Mercedes.
> >9.  Did I mention Google? Punch in whatever your issue is, e.g., "fix 1983 w123 brakes" and see what pops up (100 or so articles, many with pictures).
> >10. There are other things, but I will let other people chime in.
> >
> >
> >Go slow, take your time, enjoy your car.
> >
> >
> > 
> >brian from la verne, ca
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: bmwsid <sidcranston@...>
> >To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:19 PM
> >Subject: [diesel_mercedes] 1985 300 SD
> >
> >
> > 
> >I recently purchased this car. Which shop manual would be the best one for the car? I am not very flimiliar with most of the stuff on this car. It is my first M.B., first diesel, too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Veggie Set Up

 

That's all fine and dandy but for about 500 dollars in parts you can convert you car to single tank.   I can just use veg oil with a single tank.  I cold filter at room temp using blue jeans.  That gets you to about 10 micron.  Any heat allows dirt and other impurities to go through your filters. What looks like grit or fine paste.  If you don't believe me look on the bottom of a cubie after your process.  Give it a couple of weeks.   After a year you'd be way ahead using my technique.  No other toxic fluids.  Just pure 100% veg.  Works for me and I've been doing it for 7 years.  BTW when I pour form cubies which I use for settling I stop if I see any dirty oil.  Gotta be as clear as a lens when pouring.  Lawrence Rhodes....

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[diesel_mercedes] (unknown)

 

Needed pre-1980 passenger side seat mounted seat belt receptacle.  The one with the red button on the back of the receptacle that released the belt.  Saw one on eBay but it was the driver side.  Are these flippable?  That is ability to install on the opposite side?Lawrence Rhodes.....

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