[diesel_mercedes] Elektrikery Problems

 



FWIW ;

I don't ever sand nor abrade electrical connections as it forces the problem(s) to return , soon and worse .

I use METAL POLISH and you should too .

Lastly , a 70 Ampere alternator is a beautiful thing and prolly a good idea for those who live where freezing temps are routine .

-Nate
       Lawrence  wrote :

When I went in to get my alternator "fixed"  the first thing my mechanic(#2 guy) thought that since the problem happened when turning on the lights and fan is the alternator is weak..BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.  I insisted he fix my starter boot & clean & tighten the connection.  He was skeptical it would help.  Afterward I was very pleased and he was scratching his head.  Just goes to show a wrench monkey is a wrench monkey.  Fine at taking things apart and putting them in.  The # 1 guy knows, his underlings just follow orders and if you believe your mechanic(and he is not too bright) you wind up replacing parts because it is easier than finding the real problem.  This shop is good because they will do as you ask.  However if I believed the #2 guy I'd have a new 70 amp alternator. Lawrence Rhodes

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[diesel_mercedes] Jumping Balky Starters

 



Correct ~

You simply look at the two thicker wires , grab an old paper clip and jumper those two fatter wires , she'll begin to crank and roar into life in a moment .

FWIW , any time you turn the key to the  ' start ' position and there's a momentary delay before anything occurs , the starter solenoid is dying and if you (Like someone here ahem)  ignore this warning signal , you can expect $ome $eriou$ wallet drain and getting stuck some where it flat refuses to crank....

It'll also chew up your ignition switch and the wiring harness .

The _ONLY_ acceptable brands of NEW (only) solenoids are BOSCH and ECHLIN (sold my NAPA) , all others _will_ do you dirt and ' rebuilt ' starter solenoids are worthless .

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED .

-Nate
       Manjit (changed his spelling again)  wrote :

A side note on uses for the junction boxes..... On my 1984 300sd, I was having starter/starting issues .... I was able to 'jump start' the car from the junction box, by putting an insulated pair of needle nose pliers across the set of terminals at the junction box. I think they were the ones at the ends, but there is thread here which specifies which ones you need to jumper.   ....useful when stuck and you want to get to the shop.

1984 300sd....she has shown herself to be a trooper...dealing well with the cold in MD, away from CA sunshine.

Manjit

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Maybe sell our '81 300D, clean California car, now stored in Houston TX

 



Doug ;

If it's really clean and shiny inside & out , tell them $6K and see what happens .

The worst they can do is buy it.....

There are lots of interesting History Stories about Germans who came to Texas for the good life , glad to know they're still there and enjoying it .

-Nate
        Doug   wrote :

My pale yellow, w/ tan leather seats 300D is now just taking up space in my garage, my Millie cannot drive anymore, we are the second owners, always garage kept. Has 195 K since new, need some minor repairs, hoses etc. Nice interior, upgraded with MB mag wheels an Cooper premium tires.
Hate to sell it, has been the best of cars for the past six years at our lake home in Central Texas, wonderful for bombing around the Texas Hill Country, where especially the local German Texans always ask if its for sale. I get notes on my windshield asking to buy it. Its a clean, no dents, rust, or wreck damage, so its a nice buy for someone.
Problem is, I don't have a clue what to ask for it. Great miles per gallon since its Non Turbo, an four speed automatic. Drove it in a parade in Brenham Texas with the sun roof open, got lots of nice comments then too.
We are moving into a Seniors Apartment, an will hate to park it outside, in the weather, no doubt will end up with parking lots dents, especially in a Seniors parking area.
Any suggestions from the group, I have been here for years, mostly just a lurker, but learned a lot from you guys an gals.
Doug Traylor
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[diesel_mercedes] Cheapo RED L.E.D. Charging Tester

 

Understood Bobby ;

It'd be really nice next to the mirror or something where a glance would tell you what's what at any moment .

When I find & post it , you'll see why it's wretchedly cheap .

All it does is give you the volts DC at the plug .

The Innova ones show you the battery's charge in a bar scale and volts DC plus the alternator's output in a bar scale and three colored LED's .

Choose the one you prefer .

If you don't keep after me about it , it'll surely slip my alleged mind .

-Nate



        Bobby  wrote :

Nate,

Don't rush your bad back, but I would appreciate it if you could post it.

I like the Innova that Walmart has, but, like you, I would prefer to be able to put the meter up higher.

Bobby



 

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Cheapo RED L.E.D. Charging Tester

 

Max,

Unless you buy a couple of meters, I wouldn't cut the plug off.  Several of the reviewers comment that they like being able to move the meter to other cars to diagnose problems.

We may have to buy the Innova and a cigarette lighter extension cord.  Then we can have the best of both worlds.

But I'm still holding out for the red one on a cord - if it looks as good as the Innova.

 Bobby


On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Max temple jasperezra@gmail.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I would like one up higher too. I took out that useless ashtray and just use the space like a little tray.  Should be easy to cut the plug off the voltmeter and find some good place to wire it. Good idea to have a voltmeter. Max

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Bobby Yates Emory liberty1@gmail.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Nate,

Don't rush your bad back, but I would appreciate it if you could post it.

I like the Innova that Walmart has, but, like you, I would prefer to be able to put the meter up higher.

Bobby



On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:18 AM, vwnate1@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Uh , O.K. ~ I was looking at it sitting forlornly on my Kitchen Stove this morning as I left out @ 0-Dark:30 , I'll grab it and post up it's info later , O.K. ? .

I think you should buy the better Innova one Bill found for $16 .

-Nate
(who needs to go back to his recliner , too much pain from yesterday's workout)

      Bobby  wrote :

Nate,

I need one also.

Can you tell us the brand name and model number of the one with the red numerals and long thin cord?

Thanks,
Bobby


On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:21 AM, vwnate1@... [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




Because both Tom and I got blindsided by this design failure , we both now have a " INNOVA " brand voltmeter that plugs into the cigarette lighter socket and provides both battery voltage and charging rate .

I found it at Wall Mart IIRC , mine is back lighted so it's useful at night , Tom's isn't so read the packaging carefully .

About $20 IIRC ..

I also bought one else where , it has red LED  numerals and the plug is on the end of a long thin wire so you can stick it to the dash board and not have to look down to see the charge rate .

FWIW , I think these are very useful items .

-Nate
        Lawrence  wrote :

Well what do you know.  Took it to my mechanic and it's now 13.75.  I just scratch my head.  When I put the "good" alternator back in I still got battery voltage.  I guess the drive on the freeway to the mechanic must have loosened something up.  Maybe the brushes had to wear in a bit.  By the time I got home it was at 13.45vdc.  I'm keeping my volt meter with me though.  I'll be testing it quite frequently until I'm sure it's not a fluke......Fluke tests for flukes.   Lawrence Rhodes.





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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Charging Tester

 

Why is the corded one the chepo crapo? They all look like cheap Chinese junk. But if it works. Those plugs (cigarette plug) are problematic at best, not to mention sticking out to get bumped or banged. Just wondering? max

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Aleph93 aleph93@ca.rr.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Doesn't every FLAP have an extension for the cig lighter plug?
I have one of the splitters that give you 4 slots, for all the road trip
needs.
Works great with the charging tester, as you can see it better.
Get the good one and a separate cord.

Rob
Garden Grove, CA
=


On 2/28/15 1:40 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> .1. Charging Tester
>      Posted by:vwnate1@yahoo.com  vwnate1
>      Date: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:27 am ((PST))
>
>
>
> O.K. Bobby ;
>
> I cannot imagine why you'd want the crappo corded one but I will now make a concentrated effort to get the info to you .
>
> I posted it once long ago .
>
> It has a tape thing on the back of it making it easy to mount wherever you want it .
>
> -Nate
>         Bobby  wrote :
>
>   Everyone,
>
>
>   Walmart has the Innova for $13.95.  It looks like it is lighted.  For many products, Walmart will deliver to your local Walmart for free.
>
> <http://www.walmart.com/ip/Equus-Innova-3721-Battery-and-Charging-System-Monitor/15137663?sourceid=csesh023c9c8e33314941e18e9f64a99ed4365f&wmlspartner=shoppingcom2&affcmpid=2072379427&tmode=0000&veh=cse&sdc_id=1425013786z509904z48073b0a25292z http://www.walmart.com/ip/Equus-Innova-3721-Battery-and-Charging-System-Monitor/15137663?sourceid=csesh023c9c8e33314941e18e9f64a99ed4365f&wmlspartner=shoppingcom2&affcmpid=2072379427&tmode=0000&veh=cse&sdc_id=1425013786z509904z48073b0a25292z>
>
>
>   I'm holding out for the corded one.
>
>
>   Bobby
>
>



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Cheapo RED L.E.D. Charging Tester

 

I would like one up higher too. I took out that useless ashtray and just use the space like a little tray.  Should be easy to cut the plug off the voltmeter and find some good place to wire it. Good idea to have a voltmeter. Max

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Bobby Yates Emory liberty1@gmail.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Nate,

Don't rush your bad back, but I would appreciate it if you could post it.

I like the Innova that Walmart has, but, like you, I would prefer to be able to put the meter up higher.

Bobby



On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:18 AM, vwnate1@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Uh , O.K. ~ I was looking at it sitting forlornly on my Kitchen Stove this morning as I left out @ 0-Dark:30 , I'll grab it and post up it's info later , O.K. ? .

I think you should buy the better Innova one Bill found for $16 .

-Nate
(who needs to go back to his recliner , too much pain from yesterday's workout)

      Bobby  wrote :

Nate,

I need one also.

Can you tell us the brand name and model number of the one with the red numerals and long thin cord?

Thanks,
Bobby


On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:21 AM, vwnate1@... [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




Because both Tom and I got blindsided by this design failure , we both now have a " INNOVA " brand voltmeter that plugs into the cigarette lighter socket and provides both battery voltage and charging rate .

I found it at Wall Mart IIRC , mine is back lighted so it's useful at night , Tom's isn't so read the packaging carefully .

About $20 IIRC ..

I also bought one else where , it has red LED  numerals and the plug is on the end of a long thin wire so you can stick it to the dash board and not have to look down to see the charge rate .

FWIW , I think these are very useful items .

-Nate
        Lawrence  wrote :

Well what do you know.  Took it to my mechanic and it's now 13.75.  I just scratch my head.  When I put the "good" alternator back in I still got battery voltage.  I guess the drive on the freeway to the mechanic must have loosened something up.  Maybe the brushes had to wear in a bit.  By the time I got home it was at 13.45vdc.  I'm keeping my volt meter with me though.  I'll be testing it quite frequently until I'm sure it's not a fluke......Fluke tests for flukes.   Lawrence Rhodes.





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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Charging Tester

 

Doesn't every FLAP have an extension for the cig lighter plug?
I have one of the splitters that give you 4 slots, for all the road trip
needs.
Works great with the charging tester, as you can see it better.
Get the good one and a separate cord.

Rob
Garden Grove, CA
=

On 2/28/15 1:40 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> .1. Charging Tester
> Posted by:vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
> Date: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:27 am ((PST))
>
>
>
> O.K. Bobby ;
>
> I cannot imagine why you'd want the crappo corded one but I will now make a concentrated effort to get the info to you .
>
> I posted it once long ago .
>
> It has a tape thing on the back of it making it easy to mount wherever you want it .
>
> -Nate
> Bobby wrote :
>
> Everyone,
>
>
> Walmart has the Innova for $13.95. It looks like it is lighted. For many products, Walmart will deliver to your local Walmart for free.
>
> <http://www.walmart.com/ip/Equus-Innova-3721-Battery-and-Charging-System-Monitor/15137663?sourceid=csesh023c9c8e33314941e18e9f64a99ed4365f&wmlspartner=shoppingcom2&affcmpid=2072379427&tmode=0000&veh=cse&sdc_id=1425013786z509904z48073b0a25292z http://www.walmart.com/ip/Equus-Innova-3721-Battery-and-Charging-System-Monitor/15137663?sourceid=csesh023c9c8e33314941e18e9f64a99ed4365f&wmlspartner=shoppingcom2&affcmpid=2072379427&tmode=0000&veh=cse&sdc_id=1425013786z509904z48073b0a25292z>
>
>
> I'm holding out for the corded one.
>
>
> Bobby
>
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Maybe sell our '81 300D, clean California car, now stored in Houston TX

 

HI Doug.
Well, good luck on this next move in your lives, and thank you for your
service!

Your car sounds a real peach.
Pricing is always difficult, and regional, in my opinion.
It'd also depend on how fast you want to sell it.

People tend to want the turbo model, but I'm sure plenty like the NA as
well.

I'm in northern CA, where cars don't really rust out much, and so are
often sought. Not sure about Texas, that way. But know cars from the
Midwest and even east tend to be "rusty", or get that way.

All that said, I'd place a price range of 2 to 5 thousand.
But, again, I don't know the market in Texas.

good luck

Henry

On 2/28/2015 3:44 AM, Doug.traylor@cebridge.net [diesel_Mercedes] wrote:
> My pale yellow, w/ tan leather seats 300D is now just taking up space in
> my garage, my Millie cannot drive anymore, we are the second owners,
> always garage kept. Has 195 K since new, need some minor repairs, hoses
> etc. Nice interior, upgraded with MB mag wheels an Cooper premium tires.
> Hate to sell it, has been the best of cars for the past six years at our
> lake home in Central Texas, wonderful for bombing around the Texas Hill
> Country, where especially the local German Texans always ask if its for
> sale. I get notes on my windshield asking to buy it. Its a clean, no
> dents, rust, or wreck damage, so its a nice buy for someone.
> Problem is, I don't have a clue what to ask for it. Great miles per
> gallon since its Non Turbo, an four speed automatic. Drove it in a
> parade in Brenham Texas with the sun roof open, got lots of nice
> comments then too.
> We are moving into a Seniors Apartment, an will hate to park it outside,
> in the weather, no doubt will end up with parking lots dents, especially
> in a Seniors parking area.
> Any suggestions from the group, I have been here for years, mostly just
> a lurker, but learned a lot from you guys an gals.
> Doug Traylor
> US Navy Chief Engineer retired
>
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Alternator out and tested good...now what?

 

When I went in to get my alternator "fixed"  the first thing my mechanic(#2 guy) thought that since the problem happened when turning on the lights and fan is the alternator is weak..BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer.  I insisted he fix my starter boot & clean & tighten the connection.  He was skeptical it would help.  Afterward I was very pleased and he was scratching his head.  Just goes to show a wrench monkey is a wrench monkey.  Fine at taking things apart and putting them in.  The # 1 guy knows, his underlings just follow orders and if you believe your mechanic(and he is not too bright) you wind up replacing parts because it is easier than finding the real problem.  This shop is good because they will do as you ask.  However if I believed the #2 guy I'd have a new 70 amp alternator. Lawrence Rhodes

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Alternator out and tested good...now what?

 

I think this is a good example of Ohm's Law.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm%27s_law If resistance goes up(loose connection) voltage and amps go down.  The logical product is heat at the point of highest resistance.  That is why a bad connection can "BURN".  This happens on electric cars.  A battery post in a series string of batteries can melt if not tight.  It may also express itself under load and not under light load.  This was my problem.  It was fine in the daytime but at night when the alternator was asked to put more amps out the problem arose.  I'm surprised the starter didn't have a problem.  Lawrence Rhodes

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Alternator out and tested good...now what?

 

A side note on uses for the junction boxes..... On my 1984 300sd, I was having starter/starting issues .... I was able to 'jump start' the car from the junction box, by putting an insulated pair of needle nose pliers across the set of terminals at the junction box. I think they were the ones at the ends, but there is thread here which specifies which ones you need to jumper.   ....useful when stuck and you want to get to the shop.


1984 300sd....she has shown herself to be a trooper...dealing well with the cold in MD, away from CA sunshine.

Manjit

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