Re: [diesel_mercedes] No Secrets!

 

I have an 85 300SD with about 120K on it, paid around $1,500 for it.  It needed some interior work and I just had some drive train work done as well.

I look at it like this:  any car I would buy new will cost me at least $300 a month to buy for about 5 years, plus added insurance for comprehensive because it's on a lien. So, if I spend maybe a few thousand each year for a project, in about three years I will have a pristine car that everyone talks about.  My sweetheart drives it to the casino and the valet guys DROOL over it.....she says they all do it every time......  so we must have good taste, right?

Let's face it, we are a very unique group that appreciates the fine quality of these cars....

My friend that let me take his car off his hands knew I would love it, and I swear when I drive I laugh once the hum of the turbo kicks in and it just floats on at 65 to 70 MPH.......

I LOVE my car!

Randy

--- On Fri, 12/16/11, Mark in Lakewood, CO <beeser750@q.com> wrote:

From: Mark in Lakewood, CO <beeser750@q.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] No Secrets!
To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, December 16, 2011, 10:41 PM

 

Yoiks!  Paid $4K, then put $3K into it?  Has he/they been doing the work themselves?  I can't imagine where you'd spend $3K on a $4K W123 (which at that price, should be all ready to go).

Maybe on the biodiesel conversion...?

Mark in Lakewood, CO

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To: "diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:09:47 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] No Secrets!

 

LOL

As *IF* I would keep you folks secret! I've been telling him to join since I did...and I think he keeps getting hung up on the yahoo thing.

They bought the wagon in the spring for $4k, have put $3k into it (rear axles, valve adjustment, mounts, compression test, glow plugs and probably other stuff). He's trying to get the biodiesel business off the ground, and now they have a baby on the way. He's just fed up. But his fiance (my good friend) is picking up where he left off so we can get to work ;) So you might see her here before him, lol.

Caitlin
Santa Fe
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] No Secrets!

 

Yoiks!  Paid $4K, then put $3K into it?  Has he/they been doing the work themselves?  I can't imagine where you'd spend $3K on a $4K W123 (which at that price, should be all ready to go).

Maybe on the biodiesel conversion...?

Mark in Lakewood, CO

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Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:09:47 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] No Secrets!

 

LOL

As *IF* I would keep you folks secret! I've been telling him to join since I did...and I think he keeps getting hung up on the yahoo thing.

They bought the wagon in the spring for $4k, have put $3k into it (rear axles, valve adjustment, mounts, compression test, glow plugs and probably other stuff). He's trying to get the biodiesel business off the ground, and now they have a baby on the way. He's just fed up. But his fiance (my good friend) is picking up where he left off so we can get to work ;) So you might see her here before him, lol.

Caitlin
Santa Fe
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[diesel_mercedes] windshield wiper pump gasket & passenger side wideangle mirror.

 

I've bled out all my wiper fluid out past the washer pump so I need a new o ring/ gasket. Found it at Autohaus AZ for 86 cents  It's rubber.  My passenger mirror is gone but the guts remain.  Expensive. Anyway of rebuilding with a wide angle mirror?  Seems there are some proprietary connections.  Might another year fit the W123?  I noticed the shapes are similar.  I like having wide angle on my passenger mirror.  If I had a broken mirror I could take off the parts and attach a wide angle mirror.  Lawrence Rhodes....

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : Serious Cold Wx. Starting Drill

 


I had to chuckle at that one too. But you know winter never really comes to Socal. O ,I know you can see the mountains once in a while, and they might be white. When I was a little kid growing up there I actually saw ice in a puddle, once, walking to school. One time it snowed on Saddleback, wow, that was something. Max
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Mark in Lakewood, CO" <beeser750@...> wrote:
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> No, NO! She needs to do the valve adjustment now, in the cold, like I and many of the rest of us do.... That's how you LEARN!
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: 1985 turbo diesel

 

Yea but, your gonna be lucky to find one like this (120K) if its really clean. I look at Craigslist and Ebay. People in Socal are greedy too. Max

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> Remember, Brian is here in So.Cal. where there are a large number of such
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[diesel_mercedes] Listening to Nate

 



--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:

> Next time I remind you to have the valves adjusted & do the Diesel Purge & thin hot oil & filter change in August or September , I'm betting you'll listen .
>

I *always* listen to you, Nate :) I did the purge and the hot oil and filter change...though I didn't get the car until October ;)

Valve adjustment was waiting...for tools, money for tools, manual...and for me to even learn what a camshaft lobe was. Now I'm ready, the manual is here in shiny gold xmas wrap (gift from my sis), will have xmas money for tools to either turn engine at the crankshaft OR the PS pulley nut.

AND...once this cold & snow snap ends, I can still do it in probably 40ish weather.

> At this point ,it's prolly $ well spent to have your local Indie M-B Garage do it , you can prolly hang around & drink coffee while they do it , takes a few hours in the cold though .

I wish I could. But I didn't even have money for rent this month...just a crazy 2 months financially...things are (slowly) on the upswing...but $20-$30 in tools and standing out in the cold for hours is more likely than $98/hr for my favorite mechanic.

> Keep the faith ! Spring *is* coming .

If I had a garage, I wouldn't have to jones so bad for working on my car...it's been torture! What has this car done to me?!?!?!

;)

Caitlin
Santa Fe

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[diesel_mercedes] No Secrets!

 

LOL

As *IF* I would keep you folks secret! I've been telling him to join since I did...and I think he keeps getting hung up on the yahoo thing.

They bought the wagon in the spring for $4k, have put $3k into it (rear axles, valve adjustment, mounts, compression test, glow plugs and probably other stuff). He's trying to get the biodiesel business off the ground, and now they have a baby on the way. He's just fed up. But his fiance (my good friend) is picking up where he left off so we can get to work ;) So you might see her here before him, lol.

Caitlin
Santa Fe

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Mark in Lakewood, CO" <beeser750@...> wrote:
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> Been mostly having good solid starts...2 bad days in a row where the parasitic drain (still haven't found it) took too much out of the battery (sat too long due to icy roads, etc) and we needed a jump each time, so we invested in a trickle charger and haven't needed it yet.
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> My friends with the wagon are not having such good results...I'm trying to help them out by passing along the wisdom from here...
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[diesel_mercedes] BEWARE the Cheap Mercedes !

 

That being said lets look at what it might cost.  2k for a used transmission.  3k for a used engine installation.  Another 2 grand for front end work.  Even after that it's still cheaper than buying a new car & I guarantee you will keep fixing it.  But in the end you will have a durable, dependable, easy to fix car that will last long after the new car you didn't have to drive is retired & you can run the Mercedes diesel on waste vegetable oil.  Try that on a Honda Fit.  Looking on these cars as parts cows will thin the herd as no more are being made.  Lets hope all the ones at pick and pull are totaled by having their bodies smashed and not totaled by some pencil pusher.  Lawrence Rhodes...

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : 1985 turbo diesel

 

I have an '85 300D. You'll enjoy the higher geared differential. With the '85, check where the air cleaner is, as the CA models have a particle filter (TrapOx) which takes up the space where the standard air filter goes, above the manifolds, so the air filter is moved to the front corner behind the headlights. If it is a CA model, there's other issues to consider, like if the TrapOx has been replaced (recalled).

I'd check through the service records to see what maintenance has been done, and this also shows mileage history.
If the miles are that low, the driver's seat should be close to perfect, and all the little knobs and switches should be in great visual shape, due to lack of use. For that price, make sure the AC works well, and how about the cruise control?

Nate is right, Carfax and an inspection is a good idea.

Rob
'85 300D CA
Garden Grove, CA
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On 12/15/11 10:07 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Re : 1985 turbo diesel     Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1     Date: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:38 pm ((PST))   Yes *IF* ~ the mileage is correct , Mercedes odometers are prone to stop working plus they're easy to roll back so pay the $ for a " CarFax " report and also have some Independent Garage put it up on a hoist and take a hard look at it ~ if it's the real deal , it's a steal @ $5,500.00 .  If the seller balks at either the CarFax or the garage inspection , WALK AWAY FAST .  -Nate       "rwillman18" (forgot to give their name) wrote: 
> > I am contemplating the purchase of a 1985 turbo diesel with 120,000 miles.  The car is tip top…no rust, and aside from a few chips in the paint a great looking car.  I am in Wisconsin and I want to know if 5500.00 is a fair price and can I use it as a daily driver?  What should I be looking at on this car?   Thank for the help!! > 

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Serious Cold Wx. Starting Drill

 

Nate,
Sure Spring will come, though we haven't started Winter yet.
That's next week.

I'm getting ready for my trip to the Sierras, where it will be cold, so my MB is all winterized.
I also have extra glow plugs, just in case...

Rob
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 Re : Serious Cold Wx. Starting Drill     Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1     Date: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:35 pm ((PST))   O.K. Caitlin ;  Just pop the hood after shut down and disconnect the _negative_ battery cable clamp , then in the morning it'll have plenty to get you fired up .  This was a mandatory thing when I lived in New Hampshire in the 1960's & we had mostly crappy old worn out 6 volt vehicles , even the clock would run the battery down too far to start reliably in deepest winter .  Just remember : DO NOT allow any fool to spray ether (starting fluid) anywhere near your precious Mercedes as it WILL kill the engine ! .  Next time I remind you to have the valves adjusted & do the Diesel Purge & thin hot oil & filter change in August or September , I'm betting you'll listen .  At this point ,it's prolly $ well spent to have your local Indie M-B  Garage do it , you can prolly hang around & drink coffee while they do it , takes a few hours in the cold though .  Keep the faith ! Spring *is* coming .  -Nate      Caitlin   wrote: 

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : 1985 turbo diesel

 

remember regardless of mileage rubber rots,check flex disks for cracks,brake lines,check plastic like radiators.Replace if bad and you have a nice family car.
 

From: rwillman18 <rwillman18@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:10 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : 1985 turbo diesel

 


Did both...all check out....If I get it I will post pictures...as soon as I figure out how!

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> Yes *IF* ~ the mileage is correct , Mercedes odometers are prone to stop working plus they're easy to roll back so pay the $ for a " CarFax " report and also have some Independent Garage put it up on a hoist and take a hard look at it ~ if it's the real deal , it's a steal @ $5,500.00 .
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> If the seller balks at either the CarFax or the garage inspection , WALK AWAY FAST .
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> "rwillman18" (forgot to give their name) wrote:
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> > I am contemplating the purchase of a 1985 turbo diesel with 120,000 miles. The car is tip top…no rust, and aside from a few chips in the paint a great looking car. I am in Wisconsin and I want to know if 5500.00 is a fair price and can I use it as a daily driver? What should I be looking at on this car? Thank for the help!!
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Re : 1985 turbo diesel

 



Did both...all check out....If I get it I will post pictures...as soon as I figure out how!

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:
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> Yes *IF* ~ the mileage is correct , Mercedes odometers are prone to stop working plus they're easy to roll back so pay the $ for a " CarFax " report and also have some Independent Garage put it up on a hoist and take a hard look at it ~ if it's the real deal , it's a steal @ $5,500.00 .
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> If the seller balks at either the CarFax or the garage inspection , WALK AWAY FAST .
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> -Nate
> "rwillman18" (forgot to give their name) wrote:
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> > I am contemplating the purchase of a 1985 turbo diesel with 120,000 miles. The car is tip top…no rust, and aside from a few chips in the paint a great looking car. I am in Wisconsin and I want to know if 5500.00 is a fair price and can I use it as a daily driver? What should I be looking at on this car? Thank for the help!!
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