Re: [diesel_mercedes] MB tool kit

 

    Yes, Nate and I each have multiple versions of the cloth toolkits.  The one that I am asking about is for the 140 series, S-Klasse cars.  It's a round, hard plastic case, designed to fit into the spare tire rim. 
 
    Today, we found a 'new' blower motor in an '82 SEL, in the p-a-part yard on Peck Rd.  Nate then plugged it into my car in place of the original.  The original was still turning freely, but the motor brushes are worn down to invisibility, and the fan wasn't blowing.  As soon as Nate put in the new one, we had air flow again. 
 
Tom 
 
In a message dated 7/21/2012 8:22:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aleph93@ca.rr.com writes:
 

My '85 300D came with the barely used tool kit.
The tool kit just had a series of similar sized pockets along the bottom
seam, which you fold over top and roll up.

Contents:
Lug wrench
Tube wrench
pliers
3-open end wrenches (11/13, 14/17, 17/19)
screwdriver with philips head only (maybe the flat head slid out under
the spare tire)

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA

On 7/21/12 4:30 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: Dammit
> Posted by:"audiolaw@aol.com" audiolaw@aol.com audiolaw
> Date: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:42 pm ((PDT))
>
>
> While I'm writing to you, maybe you can provide some Benz help. I
> have a round Mercedes tool kit, part #140 890 0111. I found it in a p-a-p
> yard, empty. I've been trying to fill it up.
>
> Right now, I have the lug wrench, but now whatever part fits in the
> open space on the right, just by the socket end of the lug wrench. What part
> goes in that pocket?
>
> I have the two screw drive shafts (philips and flat) and the handle
> (don't let Nate know, he'll go crazy with jealousy). I do not have whatever
> the piece is that goes on the left side, beside the screwdriver shafts.
> What is that piece?
>
> I have a Mercedes tube wrench, part #0005814101 in the long center
> pocket. But it is clearly not the proper tool for that space, since it is too
> short. What belongs in that space?
>
> I have two open end wrenches in the spaces in the bottom left corner.
> Both fit fine. One is a 17 / 14 mm and the other is a 10 / 8 mm. But
> among my spare tools, I have a Mercedes 17 / 13 mm, which also fits in the
> wrench spot. Which one is the proper one for this tool kit, the 17 / 14 or
> the 17 / 13?
>
> There is a large open pocket on the right side of the kit, beside the
> wrenches. What is supposed to go in that spot?
>
> I have not yet found the proper pliers for the pocket at the top of
> the tool kit.
>
> It's an interesting kit, but looks more for the purpose of impressing
> buyers than for real work. The tools are good quality, but there are not
> enough of them. I'd like to fill it out. But I think for our regular
> p-a-part and driveway tool usage, I'll stick with the tool box full of Craftsman
> and other toys.
>
> Cordially,
> The other Tom: 300SD, 360,2++ miles.
>
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Junkyard & Fan Fun

 

 
The HVAC Fan in Tom's W-126 stopped recently , as it's been bugger all hot here we decided to address it to - day , went to our favorite P-A-P and began taking apart W-126 dashboards .
 
It turns out Mercedes knew this would be a high service item and so until 1982 , it was super simple to remove and replace , I bet if I was in The Dealer , I could swap them out in 30 minutes or less .
 
What I did was to practice the job by taking several apart including one 1991 W-126 in hopes it's fan motor would have less wear , it turns out tht although the fan proper remains the same , the electrical connections are different in the W-126's with all black fan speed buttons .
 
I was able to find one that worked well and installed it a few blocks away under some shady trees , it blows nicely again and more air volume too as I cleaned old dried leaves out of both the plenum and the squirrel cage .
 
I don't know how long I spent swapping the fan out , Tom will , as always I spent extra time cleaning things and trying to fix it " Just So " .
 
We'll soon find some brushes and I'll replace them as post about it here , it looks to be another simple job .
 
One of the W-126's we found was a nice Grey Market 6 cylinder gasser , it had a Becker Europa Electronic radio we grabbed , a nice until and well worth the $17.00 price if it works , they usually do .
 
I also found a super clean and shiny 1978 W-123 300D that Tom noticed still held vacuum in the central locking . in the junkyard no less ! .
 
As it was a wretched Klima-I HVAC equipped car , I bet they simply gave up fighting for cool air and drove it to the junkyard , it was that clean and had shiny paint etc.
 
I was able to find some nearly new taillight lenses for $20 each , shortly they'll be in my beloved Turbo Diesel Sports Coupe .
 
I'm really tired and am prolly forgetting some details of the works but we had fun and the car is  better now .
 
-Nate

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Dammit

 

Not quite a decade ago, I was quoted ~$900 for a set of 5 new pistons.  Fortunately, I didn't need them.  I did have a long conversation with a shop in Belmont, CA, (up on the SF peninsula), about re-sleeving the engine, they'd done several.  Said that you can usually re-use the stock pistons, which I regarded with a bit of suspicion.. Never needed to get the work done, still have a full set of sleeves, though.

bk

--- On Sat, 7/21/12, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Dammit
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 21, 2012, 8:10 PM

 


Well ;

We sleeved the cylinder block , they're not wet liners so it's a bit complicated .

He hunted around his massive stock and found a nice set of good used std. pistons , they sure are expen$ive ! .

-Nate
Nate R. wrote :
>
>
>
> Surely the Guy replaced liners and pistons too.Thats why a proper rebuild,or rebuilt cost so much.Liners are cheap,but the pistons cost too much.
> To Nate the rings still might have not seated yet.
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Voltage Regulator Stories

 


sonofab*tch .

It ate my olng winded reply , now I'm pi$$ed off .

-Nate
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "CaitlinDean" <tinymachine@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I"ve been having VR issues for about a month (and had it "fixed"), but now I'm missing one screw, and it's the one that appears to ground the VR(?) .... the one closer to center. I"ll share details when it's done, but ALL the info from this board since I joined in Oct has been keeping me sane and informed enough :)
>
>
> I had to drive 1hr to/from ABQ Airport a few weeks back. I couldn't drive above 50mph without a lot of shaking because I need an alignment *that bad* (at the very least). After 5 days of sitting in the airport pkg lot, Betty started RIGHT UP (good girl), but on the way home I noticed the charging light flickering on and off.
>
> Then I went through a move...all the craziness of packing and moving...and not quite paying attention to the little things, and in hindsight, starting was becoming a little sluggish. The day after big moving day, SWMBO (her car had been gently totaled, which was a blessing for us but that's another long OT story but we were sharing Betty) was out doing errands and the car just wouldn't start. Battery was deadzo.
>
> I got it to my guy Thom at European Autowerks and we looked down at the VR and saw it sort of limply hanging out. He ended up filing down the oddly worn brushes, and he said the existing screws (apparently still attached to the dangler) just spun in the hole so he replaced that one, and charged up the battery and all seemed fine.
>
> Until about a week later. No charging light flicker at all, but starting seemed to get more sluggish over time until one day it didn't start at all. I pulled the battery and had them do a free overnight charge at a FLAP and it tested ok. I put it back in and drove back to get the alternator tested and it wasn't high enough voltage.
>
> So I ordered myself a "brandy new" Bosch voltage regulator from AutohausAZ at $28 and change (got myself a replacement oil pan drain plug and washer while there). When I finally crawled under to replace the VR (yep, should have done that maybe before ordering?) the screw that Thom had put in was still there, but the OTHER one (which i think was a non-standard, and probably not well fitting, bolt) was totally gone. And that hole had some metal wrapped around it, looking like some sort of grounding thingy.
>
> So after some fastener confusion, I finally got the NEW VR installed, drove it back to the FLAP to retest the alternator and sure enough...she evened out at 13.62v. Which I know, from this board (and several of VWNate's posts) is the spot on correct number. Ahhhh.
>
> I am still the most beginner of beginners, but other than the information I need to tackle some of these jobs, this board has given me enough to not have to freak out about every little thing that seems "wrong" with my car. I calmly, and to the best of my ability, do the troubleshooting I can, and with that I've fixed my car 2x in the past 6 weeks (other was pre-filter, which i knew was getting clogged just didn't get it in time). And I've got a great mechanic who is pricey, but does his best to work within my budget and support my beginner efforts to do my own repairs.
>
> So...THANK YOU all for being so generous with your time, experience, and info!
>
> Caitlin
> 1983 300SD
> Santa Fe
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : Leak Down test

 


Yes , it will *if* it's a ring/piston/cylinder fault .

Not so much the vlves unless one is burnt and I doubt that as it runs very smoothly and evenly .

-Nate
Brad Asked :
>
> would  a leak down or compression test give some form of diagnosis?
>
> --- On Fri, 7/20/12, oldsinner111 <tccservice111@...> wrote:
>
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Dammit

 


Well ;

We sleeved the cylinder block , they're not wet liners so it's a bit complicated .

He hunted around his massive stock and found a nice set of good used std. pistons , they sure are expen$ive ! .

-Nate
Nate R. wrote :
>
>
>
> Surely the Guy replaced liners and pistons too.Thats why a proper rebuild,or rebuilt cost so much.Liners are cheap,but the pistons cost too much.
> To Nate the rings still might have not seated yet.
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Fuel Economy Check '84 300CD Auto

 


289 miles , AC used the whole of it ~ .

Not too many 85 + MPH runs , mostly just mixed freeway nd City Streets commuting .

Power Service Cetane Boost in the white bottle used .

22.4 MPG .

-Nate

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : 1961 190D wagon on eBay

 


Wow ~

Binz are _really_ rare , that one is still is saveable condition but won't be for long .

I sweat just looking at it , I used to lust after a Binz Ambulance....

Shoulda bought it I guess . only $1,500 running and registered , I can't see $10K for this lump no matter how rare it is ~ I can buy a 230SL and drive it home in better shape for $8K .

-Nate
Brian wrote:
>
> Here's something you don't see everyday - or ever. My German isn't what it was,
> but from one of the pictures of a body plate I think this is a custom body from
> a company called Binz Karosserie in a town called Lorch.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-Mercedes-Benz-190Db-Binz-Diesel-Wagon-Ulra-Rare-Low-Reserve-/261070723860?forcev4exp=true
>
>
> Wish I had a nice pile of extra cash laying around to buy this with.
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Voltage Regulator Stories

 

You're doing very well, Caitlin! Practice makes perfect in my books....

Joe

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[diesel_mercedes] Voltage Regulator Stories

 



> I"ve been having VR issues for about a month (and had it "fixed"), but now I'm missing one screw, and it's the one that appears to ground the VR(?) .... the one closer to center. I"ll share details when it's done, but ALL the info from this board since I joined in Oct has been keeping me sane and informed enough :)

I had to drive 1hr to/from ABQ Airport a few weeks back. I couldn't drive above 50mph without a lot of shaking because I need an alignment *that bad* (at the very least). After 5 days of sitting in the airport pkg lot, Betty started RIGHT UP (good girl), but on the way home I noticed the charging light flickering on and off.

Then I went through a move...all the craziness of packing and moving...and not quite paying attention to the little things, and in hindsight, starting was becoming a little sluggish. The day after big moving day, SWMBO (her car had been gently totaled, which was a blessing for us but that's another long OT story but we were sharing Betty) was out doing errands and the car just wouldn't start. Battery was deadzo.

I got it to my guy Thom at European Autowerks and we looked down at the VR and saw it sort of limply hanging out. He ended up filing down the oddly worn brushes, and he said the existing screws (apparently still attached to the dangler) just spun in the hole so he replaced that one, and charged up the battery and all seemed fine.

Until about a week later. No charging light flicker at all, but starting seemed to get more sluggish over time until one day it didn't start at all. I pulled the battery and had them do a free overnight charge at a FLAP and it tested ok. I put it back in and drove back to get the alternator tested and it wasn't high enough voltage.

So I ordered myself a "brandy new" Bosch voltage regulator from AutohausAZ at $28 and change (got myself a replacement oil pan drain plug and washer while there). When I finally crawled under to replace the VR (yep, should have done that maybe before ordering?) the screw that Thom had put in was still there, but the OTHER one (which i think was a non-standard, and probably not well fitting, bolt) was totally gone. And that hole had some metal wrapped around it, looking like some sort of grounding thingy.

So after some fastener confusion, I finally got the NEW VR installed, drove it back to the FLAP to retest the alternator and sure enough...she evened out at 13.62v. Which I know, from this board (and several of VWNate's posts) is the spot on correct number. Ahhhh.

I am still the most beginner of beginners, but other than the information I need to tackle some of these jobs, this board has given me enough to not have to freak out about every little thing that seems "wrong" with my car. I calmly, and to the best of my ability, do the troubleshooting I can, and with that I've fixed my car 2x in the past 6 weeks (other was pre-filter, which i knew was getting clogged just didn't get it in time). And I've got a great mechanic who is pricey, but does his best to work within my budget and support my beginner efforts to do my own repairs.

So...THANK YOU all for being so generous with your time, experience, and info!

Caitlin
1983 300SD
Santa Fe

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[diesel_mercedes] 1961 190D wagon on eBay

 

Here's something you don't see everyday - or ever.  My German isn't what it was, but from one of the pictures of a body plate I think this is a custom body from a company called Binz Karosserie in a town called Lorch.  


Wish I had a nice pile of extra cash laying around to buy this with.


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] MB tool kit

 

My '85 300D came with the barely used tool kit.
The tool kit just had a series of similar sized pockets along the bottom
seam, which you fold over top and roll up.

Contents:
Lug wrench
Tube wrench
pliers
3-open end wrenches (11/13, 14/17, 17/19)
screwdriver with philips head only (maybe the flat head slid out under
the spare tire)

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA

On 7/21/12 4:30 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: Dammit
> Posted by:"audiolaw@aol.com" audiolaw@aol.com audiolaw
> Date: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:42 pm ((PDT))
>
>
> While I'm writing to you, maybe you can provide some Benz help. I
> have a round Mercedes tool kit, part #140 890 0111. I found it in a p-a-p
> yard, empty. I've been trying to fill it up.
>
> Right now, I have the lug wrench, but now whatever part fits in the
> open space on the right, just by the socket end of the lug wrench. What part
> goes in that pocket?
>
> I have the two screw drive shafts (philips and flat) and the handle
> (don't let Nate know, he'll go crazy with jealousy). I do not have whatever
> the piece is that goes on the left side, beside the screwdriver shafts.
> What is that piece?
>
> I have a Mercedes tube wrench, part #0005814101 in the long center
> pocket. But it is clearly not the proper tool for that space, since it is too
> short. What belongs in that space?
>
> I have two open end wrenches in the spaces in the bottom left corner.
> Both fit fine. One is a 17 / 14 mm and the other is a 10 / 8 mm. But
> among my spare tools, I have a Mercedes 17 / 13 mm, which also fits in the
> wrench spot. Which one is the proper one for this tool kit, the 17 / 14 or
> the 17 / 13?
>
> There is a large open pocket on the right side of the kit, beside the
> wrenches. What is supposed to go in that spot?
>
> I have not yet found the proper pliers for the pocket at the top of
> the tool kit.
>
> It's an interesting kit, but looks more for the purpose of impressing
> buyers than for real work. The tools are good quality, but there are not
> enough of them. I'd like to fill it out. But I think for our regular
> p-a-part and driveway tool usage, I'll stick with the tool box full of Craftsman
> and other toys.
>
> Cordially,
> The other Tom: 300SD, 360,2++ miles.
>
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Size of phillips screws that hold in the voltage regulator?

 



--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <vwnate1@...> wrote:

> It's a # 1

Thanks Nate!

>but I always use a 90 degree screwdriver to get in there as my W-123's AC pipes are in the way of a regular screw driver .
>
> You can find passable 90 degree screw drivers @ The .99 CENTS Store

Yeah, I'm going to have to get that or a stubby, even my ratcheting stubby won't fit on the inner most screw. Thanks for the shopping tip, didn't realize those could be had so cheap.

> I assume you've realized this job is best done from underneath as you lie on your back ?

Indeed! I even have a big ole' piece of cardboard to lie on. AND I even have a concrete driveway now, much more comfy :)

I"ve been having VR issues for about a month (and had it "fixed"), but now I'm missing one screw, and it's the one that appears to ground the VR(?) .... the one closer to center. I"ll share details when it's done, but ALL the info from this board since I joined in Oct has been keeping me sane and informed enough :)

> > Caitlin
> > 83 300SD
> >
>

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