[diesel_mercedes] Re : " an effective edible chelation material for the human body "

 


Er ;

_WHUT_ ??

-Nate
Brad Said :
>
> My guess is that the citric acid was reconstituted from its conjugate base of citrate (crystaline form of citric acid that has lost a hydrogen ion but regains it when mixed with water or a weak base); excess base would nudge the pH above neutral 7, but probably still provide chelation, or removal of metal deposits.  As a side note, the interior of citrus fruit rinds is an effective edible chelation material for the human body (took and alternative medicine class last year).
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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Door Drama.. Window motor, actually. W126

 


Use the switch to roll it back down 1/2 way then see what's up ~ I find these occasionlly just fall loose from the door and only need some 6MM flat washers , screws & flange nuts to set right again .

I see the DPO left a Carpenter's Hammer inside the door..... =8-) .

It is good to see it back on the road again .

-Nate
AJ (?) "ajrnemt" <ajrn@...> wrote:
>
> The 84 SD is back on the road..
>
> Leaking oil (which I'll have to investigate), but running well.
>
> No A/C, so the windows get cranked.. The passenger front hasn't worked the entire time I've owned it, and the driver's rear needs some attention..
>
> Yesterday I went to put it up.. It got 3/4 up, went sideways and before I realized it made a lovely kabump sound..
>
> I got the door skin off-- and can see the motor has detached from the bottom of the door.
>
> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c349/ajrn/Agnes/IMG00228-20120819-1441.jpg
>
> There appears to be a plastic "washer" that I assume was a "safety mechanism" to keep it from eating a kids fingers..
>
> While I'd like to re-install that, I can't get the bolt and the bolt hole to re-align.. I'm wondering if the gear "jumped a tooth or two" because the window doesn't make it to the top, either.
>
> Any ideas?? I've got it closed within about 1/4 to 1/2".
>
> I assume lubrication was lacking, and it jammed and got sideways?
>
> I'm probably going to skin the passenger door, and see what it looked like before it was broken, and maybe get that one functional.
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Citric acid radiator cleaner

 


Thanx ! .

This time it stayed open .

Interesting , I already bought a huge tub of Citric Acid Powder and have been using it but it's good to know your local FLAPS has it on the shelf .

-Nate
Brian wrote:
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> Here is the materials list, interesting, from Honeywell.
>
>
> http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/znetcs/msds/en/US/525162
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>  
> brian from laverne, ca
> Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
> 1983 w123 300d's
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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Citric acid radiator cleaner

 

My guess is that the citric acid was reconstituted from its conjugate base of citrate (crystaline form of citric acid that has lost a hydrogen ion but regains it when mixed with water or a weak base); excess base would nudge the pH above neutral 7, but probably still provide chelation, or removal of metal deposits.  As a side note, the interior of citrus fruit rinds is an effective edible chelation material for the human body (took and alternative medicine class last year).

--- On Sun, 8/19/12, audiolaw@aol.com <audiolaw@aol.com> wrote:

From: audiolaw@aol.com <audiolaw@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Citric acid radiator cleaner
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 19, 2012, 10:49 AM



    The MSDS is a little odd.  It clearly lists that active ingredient as "Citric Acid".  So it is strange that the stuff is advertised as "non acidic". 
 
    The MSDS also says the pH of the stuff is 8.3-9.9, which makes it a base / alkoline, rather than acid.  Cautions include the advice that ingesting large quanitites can cause alkolosis, which is a pH imbalance in the blood.  Blood is normally in the 7.3-7.45 pH range (slightly basic). 
 
    So, it would seem that the advertising is accurate - the stuff is non-acidic.  That raises questions about what it is doing, how it works and what, if any, role the "citric acid" in it plays, and what other stuff is in there, doing what. 
 
Tom 
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2012 10:40:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, vwnate1@yahoo.com writes:
 


Sounds good to me ;

The MSDS link opens for a few seconds then gives me runtime error messages & closes again before I can read it ....

-Nate
Bobby wrote :
>
> Autozone now carries a radiator cleaner that may have citric acid:
>
> <
> http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Prestone-33-8-oz-super-radiator-cleaner/_/N-262g?itemIdentifier=525162_0_0_
> >
>
> Although the advertising copy says it is non-acidic, the active ingredient
> is sodium citrate and, in the middle of the MSDS, they say it is citric
> acid.
>
> <http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/znetcs/msds/en/US/525162>
>
> Is this the real thing or just confusion?
>
> --
> Toward freedom,
>
> Bobby Yates Emory
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Door Drama.. Window motor, actually. W126

 

As I assumed.. That is where it's "Supposed" to be, and the plastic thing is there, with the probable function I assumed...

I "skinned" the passenger door--

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c349/ajrn/Agnes/IMG00230-20120819-1812.jpg

On the passenger side, the window moves (not enough to even open) and the motor moves/strains against mounts.

I assume I'll have to disassemble the lift mechanisms of both to lube and "reinstall" my driver's side motor.. Am I correct in that, and does anyone know of a good tuturial, with the "right" or "easy" way to do it??

I'm going to break into google this evening-- I'm just taking a few minutes between doing things this afternoon.

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[diesel_mercedes] Door Drama.. Window motor, actually. W126

 

The 84 SD is back on the road..

Leaking oil (which I'll have to investigate), but running well.

No A/C, so the windows get cranked.. The passenger front hasn't worked the entire time I've owned it, and the driver's rear needs some attention..

Yesterday I went to put it up.. It got 3/4 up, went sideways and before I realized it made a lovely kabump sound..

I got the door skin off-- and can see the motor has detached from the bottom of the door.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c349/ajrn/Agnes/IMG00228-20120819-1441.jpg

There appears to be a plastic "washer" that I assume was a "safety mechanism" to keep it from eating a kids fingers..

While I'd like to re-install that, I can't get the bolt and the bolt hole to re-align.. I'm wondering if the gear "jumped a tooth or two" because the window doesn't make it to the top, either.

Any ideas?? I've got it closed within about 1/4 to 1/2".

I assume lubrication was lacking, and it jammed and got sideways?

I'm probably going to skin the passenger door, and see what it looked like before it was broken, and maybe get that one functional.

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Citric acid radiator cleaner

 

    The MSDS is a little odd.  It clearly lists that active ingredient as "Citric Acid".  So it is strange that the stuff is advertised as "non acidic". 
 
    The MSDS also says the pH of the stuff is 8.3-9.9, which makes it a base / alkoline, rather than acid.  Cautions include the advice that ingesting large quanitites can cause alkolosis, which is a pH imbalance in the blood.  Blood is normally in the 7.3-7.45 pH range (slightly basic). 
 
    So, it would seem that the advertising is accurate - the stuff is non-acidic.  That raises questions about what it is doing, how it works and what, if any, role the "citric acid" in it plays, and what other stuff is in there, doing what. 
 
Tom 
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2012 10:40:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, vwnate1@yahoo.com writes:
 


Sounds good to me ;

The MSDS link opens for a few seconds then gives me runtime error messages & closes again before I can read it ....

-Nate
Bobby wrote :
>
> Autozone now carries a radiator cleaner that may have citric acid:
>
> <
> http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Prestone-33-8-oz-super-radiator-cleaner/_/N-262g?itemIdentifier=525162_0_0_
> >
>
> Although the advertising copy says it is non-acidic, the active ingredient
> is sodium citrate and, in the middle of the MSDS, they say it is citric
> acid.
>
> <http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/znetcs/msds/en/US/525162>
>
> Is this the real thing or just confusion?
>
> --
> Toward freedom,
>
> Bobby Yates Emory
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Citric acid radiator cleaner

 

Here is the materials list, interesting, from Honeywell.

http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/znetcs/msds/en/US/525162
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Bobby Yates Emory <liberty1@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Citric acid radiator cleaner

 
Nate,

Sorry for the inconvenience.  Stays up for me.  Maybe someone has an idea what I did wrong.

I thought about copying it.  But I can not get it to copy.

Bobby

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Sounds good to me ;

The MSDS link opens for a few seconds then gives me runtime error messages & closes again before I can read it ....

-Nate
Bobby wrote :

>
> Autozone now carries a radiator cleaner that may have citric acid:
>
> <
> http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Prestone-33-8-oz-super-radiator-cleaner/_/N-262g?itemIdentifier=525162_0_0_
> >
>
> Although the advertising copy says it is non-acidic, the active ingredient
> is sodium citrate and, in the middle of the MSDS, they say it is citric
> acid.
>
> <http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/znetcs/msds/en/US/525162>
>
> Is this the real thing or just confusion?
>
> --
> Toward freedom,
>
> Bobby Yates Emory
>




--
Toward freedom,

Bobby Yates Emory


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