Brian, I stand beside you in spirit. I ache for days when I do some tasks, and sometimes find I have not even fixed the problem.
Chuck
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "brian's 83 300d's" <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> It hurt to do it, but I've decided certain "under the carriage" repairs and replacements are too heavy duty for my old body to undertake, so I will let Mike the Mechanic take his pound of flesh when necessary. I will handle the "up top" stuff and exterior stuff, but today it was Mikes turn to (a) replace the starter & solenoid, (b) replace the passenger side rear axle, and (c) let me know I need an A/C compressor. The pound of flesh was $950 and I think it was worth it because I have to put 1,000 miles on the beast. On the other hand, $500 labor could have been saved if I had done it myself. But, on the other hand, it was raining and a lousy day out. So, there are trade offs in life. Today, the mechanic won. Maybe tomorrow I will chalk up the win.
>
> brian from laverne
>
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Repairing Mary (1983 w123 300d)
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
From: n61cm <jim@tazwade.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:33 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
http://mbdieseldiy.tripod.com/monovalve.htm
Exploded view photo:
http://mbdieseldiy.tripod.com/images/11a.jpg
Jim
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> As I recall, things can be put back incorrectly. I seem to remember putting that heavy washer in wrongly once. Suggest you get a blowup of the diagram, or look at one that is working, or take one apart at a PAP. Heck, I may even take my wifes apart tomorrow morning. Seems to me I have some pics on Picasa too, or even in this groups photo spread. Look here for "Brians xxx" as I posted 10 or 12 fix it pics in the past.
>
> Â
> brian from la verne, ca
>
>
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
I think I am going to install a Home Depot plumbing valve at the same time I do the monovalve repair. If the monovalve (when working) shuts off the coolant flow, I don't see how any other valve shutting off the same flow through the same area could damage anything. Next summer I plan to have a/c, by golly.
Jim
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Lost but making good time." <aldridgetony97@...> wrote:
>
> I cheated on mine, while I was waiting to get to a PaP (rare beasts hereabouts) I put a ball valve between the pump and valve. That let me shut off the water in summer. Now I have a good MV I just leave the valve open.
> Incase leaving the valve shut for the summer was hard on the heater water pump, I carry a spare water pump too, courtesy $5.00 @ PaP.
>
> ---
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
Found this:
http://mbdieseldiy.tripod.com/monovalve.htm
Exploded view photo:
http://mbdieseldiy.tripod.com/images/11a.jpg
Jim
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> As I recall, things can be put back incorrectly. I seem to remember putting that heavy washer in wrongly once. Suggest you get a blowup of the diagram, or look at one that is working, or take one apart at a PAP. Heck, I may even take my wifes apart tomorrow morning. Seems to me I have some pics on Picasa too, or even in this groups photo spread. Look here for "Brians xxx" as I posted 10 or 12 fix it pics in the past.
>
> Â
> brian from la verne, ca
>
>
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
Nothing in pix here under the "Brians" headers. If you take yours apart please let me know where you find the wacky wavy washer.
Thanks,
Jim
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> As I recall, things can be put back incorrectly. I seem to remember putting that heavy washer in wrongly once. Suggest you get a blowup of the diagram, or look at one that is working, or take one apart at a PAP. Heck, I may even take my wifes apart tomorrow morning. Seems to me I have some pics on Picasa too, or even in this groups photo spread. Look here for "Brians xxx" as I posted 10 or 12 fix it pics in the past.
>
> Â
> brian from la verne, ca
>
>
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Throttle Linkage
Or you could do what one person here does, leave 'er wide open unless the car is parked.
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Alan Boucher <alstheone@...> wrote:
>
> On 10/6/2011 5:28 PM, brian's 83 300d's wrote:
> >
> > Someone was asking about throttle linkage adjustment. Keep your eye on
> > that thing marked #34. It can be a bad apple.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3tsxcql
> >
> > brian from laverne
> >
> >
> I ended up putting a hydraulic throttle on a 240D that the floor had
> rotted out on. It wasn't entirely successful because it was a cheap
> package that required frequent bleeding. I think it was meant for drag
> cars where a few to the floor pedal actions were all that were required
> versus the usual play of daily driving.
>
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
I cheated on mine, while I was waiting to get to a PaP (rare beasts hereabouts) I put a ball valve between the pump and valve. That let me shut off the water in summer. Now I have a good MV I just leave the valve open.
Incase leaving the valve shut for the summer was hard on the heater water pump, I carry a spare water pump too, courtesy $5.00 @ PaP.
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Alan Boucher <alstheone@...> wrote:
>
> On 10/6/2011 5:01 PM, BStromsoe wrote:
> > As I recall, things can be put back incorrectly. I seem to remember
> > putting that heavy washer in wrongly once. Suggest you get a blowup of
> > the diagram, or look at one that is working, or take one apart at a
> > PAP. Heck, I may even take my wifes apart tomorrow morning. Seems to
> > me I have some pics on Picasa too, or even in this groups photo
> > spread. Look here for "Brians xxx" as I posted 10 or 12 fix it pics in
> > the past.
> > brian from la verne, ca
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* n61cm <jim@...>
> > *To:* diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:26 PM
> > *Subject:* [diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
> >
> > That's another thing I'm wondering about. I'm always a bit concerned
> > about putting things back the way they came apart -- if they had
> > previously been taken apart and put together by someone else who
> > didn't know what they were doing. Maybe two years isn't unusual
> > failure for this part but I think it's premature, which makes me
> > wonder if it was installed incorrectly or something, although from
> > what I can tell, it would be hard to install it incorrectly, unless
> > that wavy washer can be put in the wrong place (or left off entirely).
> > As far as I can tell, the first one lasted 30 years, but who
> > knows...maybe they just break a lot. They are certainly sold
> > everywhere, that's for sure. Any difference in brands? Maybe I should
> > buy a $40 Indian Bosch vs $26 Chinese alt brand.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Only if the previous installer was not paying attention and did a
> > lousy job. Pop it open (4 screws and 5 minutes) and look.
> > >
> > > Ã
> > > brian from la verne, ca
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: n61cm <jim@>
> > > To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:50 AM
> > > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
> > >
> > >
> > > Ã
> > > Thanks for the info. But do the guts of these valves ever get
> > corroded so much that a new valve won't seat properly and thus allow
> > coolant to leak through continuously?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>, audiolaw@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jim,
> > > >
> > > > Monovalves are among the easiest service tasks that you can do. The
> > > > valve is easy to find and work on on the 123 (much easier than on
> > the 126).
> > > >
> > > > You can either replace just the active part, by removing the four
> > > > screws on the top of the valve body and lifting it out (remember
> > to unplug it
> > > > first. Then drop a 'new' one in, reinstall the screws, connect the
> > plug and
> > > > you're good to go.
> > > >
> > > > Or you can pull the whole thing by unplugging, then disconnecting the
> > > > water hoses, then dismounting. Install the 'new' one.
> > > >
> > > > I say 'new' instead of new, because these are easily pulled from cars
> > > > in P-a-P yards. You can open the valve up (remove the four screws)
> > and see
> > > > if the rubber is OK, and see if the channels look clean or clogged.
> > > > CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP. And good exercise walking the yard.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 10/6/2011 7:01:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > > jim@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Howdy, the monovalve on my 84 300D lets coolant through all the
> > time, never
> > > > completely shuts it off, raises the air temp 10 - 15 degrees at its
> > > > coldest setting when it should be shut off. The valve was replaced
> > a couple years
> > > > ago by a Mercedes shop. Seems too soon for it to have gone bad,
> > but who
> > > > knows.... I see that those valves have rubber washers or o-rings
> > or whatever
> > > > rubber parts on them to create the seal to stop the flow of
> > coolant, and
> > > > was wondering if there is a seat inside the monovalve housing that
> > could be
> > > > pitted or corroded that could be causing the rubber parts of the
> > valve to
> > > > not seal properly. I have never taken one of these apart. Any
> > advice is
> > > > appreciated. I'd like to fix this once and be done with it for a
> > while.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > > jim@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Howdy, the monovalve on my 84 300D lets coolant through all the
> > time, never
> > > > completely shuts it off, raises the air temp 10 - 15 degrees at its
> > > > coldest setting when it should be shut off. The valve was replaced
> > a couple years
> > > > ago by a Mercedes shop. Seems too soon for it to have gone bad,
> > but who
> > > > knows.... I see that those valves have rubber washers or o-rings
> > or whatever
> > > > rubber parts on them to create the seal to stop the flow of
> > coolant, and
> > > > was wondering if there is a seat inside the monovalve housing that
> > could be
> > > > pitted or corroded that could be causing the rubber parts of the
> > valve to
> > > > not seal properly. I have never taken one of these apart. Any
> > advice is
> > > > appreciated. I'd like to fix this once and be done with it for a
> > while.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > > jim@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Howdy, the monovalve on my 84 300D lets coolant through all the
> > time, never
> > > > completely shuts it off, raises the air temp 10 - 15 degrees at its
> > > > coldest setting when it should be shut off. The valve was replaced
> > a couple years
> > > > ago by a Mercedes shop. Seems too soon for it to have gone bad,
> > but who
> > > > knows.... I see that those valves have rubber washers or o-rings
> > or whatever
> > > > rubber parts on them to create the seal to stop the flow of
> > coolant, and
> > > > was wondering if there is a seat inside the monovalve housing that
> > could be
> > > > pitted or corroded that could be causing the rubber parts of the
> > valve to
> > > > not seal properly. I have never taken one of these apart. Any
> > advice is
> > > > appreciated. I'd like to fix this once and be done with it for a
> > while.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > > jim@ writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Howdy, the monovalve on my 84 300D lets coolant through all the
> > time, never
> > > > completely shuts it off, raises the air temp 10 - 15 degrees at its
> > > > coldest setting when it should be shut off. The valve was replaced
> > a couple years
> > > > ago by a Mercedes shop. Seems too soon for it to have gone bad,
> > but who
> > > > knows.... I see that those valves have rubber washers or o-rings
> > or whatever
> > > > rubber parts on them to create the seal to stop the flow of
> > coolant, and
> > > > was wondering if there is a seat inside the monovalve housing that
> > could be
> > > > pitted or corroded that could be causing the rubber parts of the
> > valve to
> > > > not seal properly. I have never taken one of these apart. Any
> > advice is
> > > > appreciated. I'd like to fix this once and be done with it for a
> > while.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Putting things back the way they came apart takes all of the fun out of
> life.
>
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
On 10/6/2011 5:01 PM, BStromsoe wrote:
Putting things back the way they came apart takes all of the fun out of life.As I recall, things can be put back incorrectly. I seem to remember putting that heavy washer in wrongly once. Suggest you get a blowup of the diagram, or look at one that is working, or take one apart at a PAP. Heck, I may even take my wifes apart tomorrow morning. Seems to me I have some pics on Picasa too, or even in this groups photo spread. Look here for "Brians xxx" as I posted 10 or 12 fix it pics in the past.
brian from la verne, ca
From: n61cm <jim@tazwade.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:26 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
Pacific Daylight Time,That's another thing I'm wondering about. I'm always a bit concerned about putting things back the way they came apart -- if they had previously been taken apart and put together by someone else who didn't know what they were doing. Maybe two years isn't unusual failure for this part but I think it's premature, which makes me wonder if it was installed incorrectly or something, although from what I can tell, it would be hard to install it incorrectly, unless that wavy washer can be put in the wrong place (or left off entirely). As far as I can tell, the first one lasted 30 years, but who knows...maybe they just break a lot. They are certainly sold everywhere, that's for sure. Any difference in brands? Maybe I should buy a $40 Indian Bosch vs $26 Chinese alt brand.
Jim
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@...> wrote:
>
> Only if the previous installer was not paying attention and did a lousy job. Pop it open (4 screws and 5 minutes) and look.
>
> Â
> brian from la verne, ca
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: n61cm <jim@...>
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 7:50 AM
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Monovalve repair 84 300D
>
>
> Â
> Thanks for the info. But do the guts of these valves ever get corroded so much that a new valve won't seat properly and thus allow coolant to leak through continuously?
>
> Jim
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, audiolaw@ wrote:
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Monovalves are among the easiest service tasks that you can do. The
> > valve is easy to find and work on on the 123 (much easier than on the 126).
> >
> > You can either replace just the active part, by removing the four
> > screws on the top of the valve body and lifting it out (remember to unplug it
> > first. Then drop a 'new' one in, reinstall the screws, connect the plug and
> > you're good to go.
> >
> > Or you can pull the whole thing by unplugging, then disconnecting the
> > water hoses, then dismounting. Install the 'new' one.
> >
> > I say 'new' instead of new, because these are easily pulled from cars
> > in P-a-P yards. You can open the valve up (remove the four screws) and see
> > if the rubber is OK, and see if the channels look clean or clogged.
> > CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP. And good exercise walking the yard.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 10/6/2011 7:01:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > jim@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Howdy, the monovalve on my 84 300D lets coolant through all the time, never
> > completely shuts it off, raises the air temp 10 - 15 degrees at its
> > coldest setting when it should be shut off. The valve was replaced a couple years
> > ago by a Mercedes shop. Seems too soon for it to have gone bad, but who
> > knows.... I see that those valves have rubber washers or o-rings or whatever
> > rubber parts on them to create the seal to stop the flow of coolant, and
> > was wondering if there is a seat inside the monovalve housing that could be
> > pitted or corroded that could be causing the rubber parts of the valve to
> > not seal properly. I have never taken one of these apart. Any advice is
> > appreciated. I'd like to fix this once and be done with it for a while.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
>
> Pacific Daylight Time,
> > jim@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Howdy, the monovalve on my 84 300D lets coolant through all the time, never
> > completely shuts it off, raises the air temp 10 - 15 degrees at its
> > coldest setting when it should be shut off. The valve was replaced a couple years
> > ago by a Mercedes shop. Seems too soon for it to have gone bad, but who
> > knows.... I see that those valves have rubber washers or o-rings or whatever
> > rubber parts on them to create the seal to stop the flow of coolant, and
> > was wondering if there is a seat inside the monovalve housing that could be
> > pitted or corroded that could be causing the rubber parts of the valve to
> > not seal properly. I have never taken one of these apart. Any advice is
> > appreciated. I'd like to fix this once and be done with it for a while.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
> > jim@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Howdy, the monovalve on my 84 300D lets coolant through all the time, never
> > completely shuts it off, raises the air temp 10 - 15 degrees at its
> > coldest setting when it should be shut off. The valve was replaced a couple years
> > ago by a Mercedes shop. Seems too soon for it to have gone bad, but who
> > knows.... I see that those valves have rubber washers or o-rings or whatever
> > rubber parts on them to create the seal to stop the flow of coolant, and
> > was wondering if there is a seat inside the monovalve housing that could be
> > pitted or corroded that could be causing the rubber parts of the valve to
> > not seal properly. I have never taken one of these apart. Any advice is
> > appreciated. I'd like to fix this once and be done with it for a while.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
>
> Pacific Daylight Time,
> > jim@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Howdy, the monovalve on my 84 300D lets coolant through all the time, never
> > completely shuts it off, raises the air temp 10 - 15 degrees at its
> > coldest setting when it should be shut off. The valve was replaced a couple years
> > ago by a Mercedes shop. Seems too soon for it to have gone bad, but who
> > knows.... I see that those valves have rubber washers or o-rings or whatever
> > rubber parts on them to create the seal to stop the flow of coolant, and
> > was wondering if there is a seat inside the monovalve housing that could be
> > pitted or corroded that could be causing the rubber parts of the valve to
> > not seal properly. I have never taken one of these apart. Any advice is
> > appreciated. I'd like to fix this once and be done with it for a while.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Throttle Linkage
On 10/6/2011 5:28 PM, brian's 83 300d's wrote:
I ended up putting a hydraulic throttle on a 240D that the floor had rotted out on. It wasn't entirely successful because it was a cheap package that required frequent bleeding. I think it was meant for drag cars where a few to the floor pedal actions were all that were required versus the usual play of daily driving.Someone was asking about throttle linkage adjustment. Keep your eye on that thing marked #34. It can be a bad apple.
http://tinyurl.com/3tsxcql
brian from laverne
[diesel_mercedes] Throttle Linkage
Someone was asking about throttle linkage adjustment. Keep your eye on that thing marked #34. It can be a bad apple.
http://tinyurl.com/3tsxcql
brian from laverne