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Temperature: 77 degrees Fahrenheit

Percent Hydrometer Unloaded
charge reading voltage
100 1.265 12.63
75 1.210 12.30
50 1.160 12.00
25 1.120 11.76
0 1.100 11.64
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Alright I will check it out! Thanks everyone for the input!!! :)

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I do not have a volt meter

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I'm gonna jump in on this one and reinforce the comment about connections.
They must be clean. And by clean I mean bright and shiny and wire brushed and NO chemical residue. If you are gonna use chemicals then use them first and then mechanically clean the surfaces through which the current will pass. Or the current won't pass. At least not as well as it should. 

One way to test a connection is to put a voltmeter on each side of it. Take the battery post for example: one probe on the post, and dig it in until you get a good clean lead surface, and one probe on the cable, again through the insulation if you have to and into good clean copper. Then try to start it. Anything more than a half volt across that post-to-clamp interface is too much. 

Lead should look bright and shiny like clean silver - almost like chrome. 
Brass should look like gold - yellow and bright. 
The same surface that reflects light conducts electrons. 
Clean, shiny, and smooth is the key. 

I've said it before but it bears repeating - most electrical problems are NOT shorts. Short circuits are self correcting and obvious - they blow up, release smoke, and open up all by themselves. No. Most electrical problems are opens or "poor" connections, or otherwise high resistance connections. 

I know a guy from my distant past who replaced his starter 3 times before I found the loose ground wire that was the actual problem. Chemicals, sandpaper, and wire brushes (in that order) are your friends.  Meaty, beaty, big, and bouncy can be easily taken down by a grain of sand between the ground cable and the chassis or block. And it's not just the surface between the ring terminal, at the end of the cable, and the chassis - the bolt will conduct almost half the current so make sure it's contact surface is clean too. 

Hope this helps.
Bogy
 
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Take it to napaoriellys etc and they will check for free !
Pep boys had a group 49 Bosch for $150.   1000 cca.  

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On Jan 15, 2016, at 6:06 PM, corvallis@peoplepc.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Don’t jump across a questionable battery. Take one of the cables off of the in-car battery.  Bill in Oregon


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Check all battery connections   At the battery. At the starter motor. Check the ground strap where it attaches to the block or frame.  All should be super clean and tight.  No frays or broken insulation.  What is the Specific gravity of the 'water in the battery ?  Buy a simple tester and check.   
Jump it and see if it turns over

Measure the voltage at the battery. 

Should be 13.1 volts.  Running 14.2 volts.  
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On Jan 15, 2016, at 5:13 PM, sarrcho@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

So I was having loss of power issues...changed the fuel filter first, then replaced the gasket on the intake thing because the old one was basically non existent and was pulling too much air into the engine. I was all excited about putting that back all by myself and went to start it up and the battery seemed low. I charged it. The next day I tried to start it again. Battery low. Charged it again and tried to start it up without letting it sit too long and the dash lit up but when i pulled my choke out it was completely dead....no lights, no revs, nothing....I am pretty sure the battery is ok. Had it checked not that long ago....short in the wiring? or what? GRRRR I just wanna drive it :(


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Do you have a volt meter ?

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I have a basic battery charger, it was showing 12 V. 


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Don’t jump across a questionable battery. Take one of the cables off of the in-car battery.  Bill in Oregon


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Check all battery connections   At the battery. At the starter motor. Check the ground strap where it attaches to the block or frame.  All should be super clean and tight.  No frays or broken insulation.  What is the Specific gravity of the 'water in the battery ?  Buy a simple tester and check.   
Jump it and see if it turns over

Measure the voltage at the battery. 

Should be 13.1 volts.  Running 14.2 volts.  
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On Jan 15, 2016, at 5:13 PM, sarrcho@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

So I was having loss of power issues...changed the fuel filter first, then replaced the gasket on the intake thing because the old one was basically non existent and was pulling too much air into the engine. I was all excited about putting that back all by myself and went to start it up and the battery seemed low. I charged it. The next day I tried to start it again. Battery low. Charged it again and tried to start it up without letting it sit too long and the dash lit up but when i pulled my choke out it was completely dead....no lights, no revs, nothing....I am pretty sure the battery is ok. Had it checked not that long ago....short in the wiring? or what? GRRRR I just wanna drive it :(


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I have a basic battery charger, it was showing 12 V. 

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Good thinkin!

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What Bill said x 2

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Get the battery (professionally) checked. Or take it out and put one in from a running car (that means it’s good.)  Bill in oreggon


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So I was having loss of power issues...changed the fuel filter first, then replaced the gasket on the intake thing because the old one was basically non existent and was pulling too much air into the engine. I was all excited about putting that back all by myself and went to start it up and the battery seemed low. I charged it. The next day I tried to start it again. Battery low. Charged it again and tried to start it up without letting it sit too long and the dash lit up but when i pulled my choke out it was completely dead....no lights, no revs, nothing....I am pretty sure the battery is ok. Had it checked not that long ago....short in the wiring? or what? GRRRR I just wanna drive it :(


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Check all battery connections   At the battery. At the starter motor. Check the ground strap where it attaches to the block or frame.  All should be super clean and tight.  No frays or broken insulation.  What is the Specific gravity of the 'water in the battery ?  Buy a simple tester and check.   
Jump it and see if it turns over
Measure the voltage at the battery. 
Should be 13.1 volts.  Running 14.2 volts.  
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On Jan 15, 2016, at 5:13 PM, sarrcho@yahoo.com [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

So I was having loss of power issues...changed the fuel filter first, then replaced the gasket on the intake thing because the old one was basically non existent and was pulling too much air into the engine. I was all excited about putting that back all by myself and went to start it up and the battery seemed low. I charged it. The next day I tried to start it again. Battery low. Charged it again and tried to start it up without letting it sit too long and the dash lit up but when i pulled my choke out it was completely dead....no lights, no revs, nothing....I am pretty sure the battery is ok. Had it checked not that long ago....short in the wiring? or what? GRRRR I just wanna drive it :(


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Get the battery (professionally) checked. Or take it out and put one in from a running car (that means it’s good.)  Bill in oreggon


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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] It's always something

 

So I was having loss of power issues...changed the fuel filter first, then replaced the gasket on the intake thing because the old one was basically non existent and was pulling too much air into the engine. I was all excited about putting that back all by myself and went to start it up and the battery seemed low. I charged it. The next day I tried to start it again. Battery low. Charged it again and tried to start it up without letting it sit too long and the dash lit up but when i pulled my choke out it was completely dead....no lights, no revs, nothing....I am pretty sure the battery is ok. Had it checked not that long ago....short in the wiring? or what? GRRRR I just wanna drive it :(

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So I was having loss of power issues...changed the fuel filter first, then replaced the gasket on the intake thing because the old one was basically non existent and was pulling too much air into the engine. I was all excited about putting that back all by myself and went to start it up and the battery seemed low. I charged it. The next day I tried to start it again. Battery low. Charged it again and tried to start it up without letting it sit too long and the dash lit up but when i pulled my choke out it was completely dead....no lights, no revs, nothing....I am pretty sure the battery is ok. Had it checked not that long ago....short in the wiring? or what? GRRRR I just wanna drive it :(

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