[diesel_mercedes] Srarter Help

 



Max ;

I'm about to go read ll the other replies but 90 + of the time it's the starter's solenoid , Bosch solenoids cannot be rebuilt and all other brands except Echlin are worthless because they fail soon .

Sometimes the electrical portion of the ignition switch fails , if the white plastic part turns yellow it's kaputi , get rid of it before it strands you .
To test , find the primary electrical connection block on the inner right fender  it's have (IIRC) three fairly heavy wires going across it , one is unfused battery and the other fat red one is the starter actuation wire ~ bridge these two with an unbent paper clip , making sure the tranny's in park and the park brake is set ~ if the starter *instantly* begins to crank , I'd look at the ignition switch or neutral safety switch next .

If there's a little pause before the starter begins to crank , the solenoid is dead , either pony up serious $ for a Bosch branded rebuilt starter (they never re use solenoids)  or buy a Bosch or Echlin (Echlin @ NAPA) solenoid and install it .

I assume you have already tested for loose shifter linkage bushings by holding the key in the start position and s-l-o-w-l-y moving the shifter from Park through all it's positions....

-Nate
         Max   wrote :

OK, after having my spare 240 with the auto for a long time and not driving it much and it never failed, well, its been failing. The latest thing is it wont start. When I turn the key nothing, zip, no click no nothing. I checked the voltage it seems fine. What do I do? I've had several starters go out and I get plenty of notice. Between getting  firewood, rototilling, lawn mowing, finishing my house, cleaning out my shop so I can finish my house, I dont have time for this, good thing its my #3 car, but I do like to keep it running. I really need to sell it. Any advice? Max

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[diesel_mercedes] Home Again

 

I always forget to jot down the beginning mileage so I can figure out how many total miles each road trip was .

The tankful I added Startron to and ran pretty close to wide open the whole way (80+ ~ 100+) , returned 23.7 MPGs and smoked a fair good bit .

On the way home I passed a gasolinera that said " biodiesel mix " and I keep hearing that bio diesel is good for cleaning out crud so I tanked up with it , added a quart of oil and used the cruise control mostly on the way home , it surges now and then and hunts for whatever speed it wants instead of locking in wherever I set it at , I chose 63 ~ 67 MPH and am keen to see what the end mileage from not speeding will be .

All in all it was a nice trip , the weather was weird , rainy some times , clear and cool @ 84° F others , almost always windy , some times a good 50 MPH blow shoving the car all over the road .

The stations sign said $2.17 credit and $2.12 ca$h , I used my credit card and was pleased to see the actual price was only $2.04 / gallon , plenty of places in Arizona are under $2 / gallon for branded diesel fuel .

-Nate


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Re: [diesel_mercedes] help

 

it's pretty easy to work backwards with a good heavy jumper wire.
starter, solenoid neutral switch, key.

good luck

On 4/10/2016 6:13 PM, 'Mark in Lakewood, CO' beeser750@q.com
[diesel_mercedes] wrote:
> Make sure it's in "Park" or "Neutral".
>
> The usual suspects in this case are: starter/starter solenoid,
> ignition/starter switch and neutral safety switch, or the wiring that
> connects it all together.
>
> Mark in Centennial, CO
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *"jasperezra@gmail.com [diesel_mercedes]"
> <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
> *To: *"diesel mercedes" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 10, 2016 6:37:45 PM
> *Subject: *[diesel_mercedes] help
>
> OK, after having my spare 240 with the auto for a long time and not
> driving it much and it never failed, well, its been failing. The latest
> thing is it wont start. When I turn the key nothing, zip, no click no
> nothing. I checked the voltage it seems fine. What do I do? I've had
> several starters go out and I get plenty of notice. Between getting
> firewood, rototilling, lawn mowing, finishing my house, cleaning out
> my shop so I can finish my house, I dont have time for this, good thing
> its my #3 car, but I do like to keep it running. I really need to sell
> it. Any advice? Max
>
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] help

 

Make sure it's in "Park" or "Neutral".

The usual suspects in this case are: starter/starter solenoid, ignition/starter switch and neutral safety switch, or the wiring that connects it all together.

Mark in Centennial, CO

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Subject: [diesel_mercedes] help

 

OK, after having my spare 240 with the auto for a long time and not driving it much and it never failed, well, its been failing. The latest thing is it wont start. When I turn the key nothing, zip, no click no nothing. I checked the voltage it seems fine. What do I do? I've had several starters go out and I get plenty of notice. Between getting  firewood, rototilling, lawn mowing, finishing my house, cleaning out my shop so I can finish my house, I dont have time for this, good thing its my #3 car, but I do like to keep it running. I really need to sell it. Any advice? Max

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RE: [diesel_mercedes] help

 

Is this a diesel Mercedes?  Bill in Oregon

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OK, after having my spare 240 with the auto for a long time and not driving it much and it never failed, well, its been failing. The latest thing is it wont start. When I turn the key nothing, zip, no click no nothing. I checked the voltage it seems fine. What do I do? I've had several starters go out and I get plenty of notice. Between getting  firewood, rototilling, lawn mowing, finishing my house, cleaning out my shop so I can finish my house, I dont have time for this, good thing its my #3 car, but I do like to keep it running. I really need to sell it. Any advice? Max

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OK, after having my spare 240 with the auto for a long time and not driving it much and it never failed, well, its been failing. The latest thing is it wont start. When I turn the key nothing, zip, no click no nothing. I checked the voltage it seems fine. What do I do? I've had several starters go out and I get plenty of notice. Between getting  firewood, rototilling, lawn mowing, finishing my house, cleaning out my shop so I can finish my house, I dont have time for this, good thing its my #3 car, but I do like to keep it running. I really need to sell it. Any advice? Max

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Wa. State & RUST or what causes rust

 

Thats what I thought. While living in Oregon in the 70's I did not notice much in the way of rusty cars. Living in NE Washington we see cars from Montana, rusted out. Max

On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Lawrence Rhodes primobassoon@sbcglobal.net [diesel_mercedes] <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Rust is caused by salt.  Not water but in combination with salt it's a death sentence for steel cars. West Coast cars within a mile of the beach are most suspect.  However most west coast cars are rust free.  This is why used cars are cheaper on the West Coast than the East Coast. Lots of cars still running after many years. Everything rusts East of the Mississippi.  So if you are in a di-icing area expect short life cycle of your steel vehicle.  Water?  Nate what are you thinking?  Lawrence Rhodes




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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Wa. State & RUST or what causes rust

 

Rust is caused by salt.  Not water but in combination with salt it's a death sentence for steel cars. West Coast cars within a mile of the beach are most suspect.  However most west coast cars are rust free.  This is why used cars are cheaper on the West Coast than the East Coast. Lots of cars still running after many years. Everything rusts East of the Mississippi.  So if you are in a di-icing area expect short life cycle of your steel vehicle.  Water?  Nate what are you thinking?  Lawrence Rhodes

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