interesting.
thanks,
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: <bgiovan@cavtel.net>
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: diesel why the cost, don't blame the tree
huggers...
> It's veg oil. Actually the government advocates adding biodiesel back
> to overcome the lubricity stolen from removing the sulfur. Run your
> Benz on 100% biodiesel and you'll hear the clatter cut by half.
>
> http://www.eia.gov/oiaf/analysispaper/biodiesel/
>
>
>
> On 11/2/2011 10:49 AM, ygmir111 wrote:
>>
>> so, no sulfur at all?
>> where does the lubricity come from?
>>
>> Henry
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bgiovan@cavtel.net <mailto:bgiovan%40cavtel.net>>
>> To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: diesel why the cost, don't blame
>> the tree
>> huggers...
>>
>> > Here you go Henry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/2/2011 10:41 AM, ygmir111 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ben,
>> >> please explain?
>> >>
>> >> Henry
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: <bgiovan@cavtel.net <mailto:bgiovan%40cavtel.net>
>> <mailto:bgiovan%40cavtel.net>>
>> >> To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>
>> >> <mailto:diesel_mercedes%40yahoogroups.com>>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:26 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: diesel why the cost, don't blame
>> >> the tree
>> >> huggers...
>> >>
>> >> > My diesel has no sulfur.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ben near Detroit.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 11/2/2011 10:16 AM, audiolaw@aol.com
>> <mailto:audiolaw%40aol.com> <mailto:audiolaw%40aol.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It should also be noted that we in the U.S. started using "ultra
>> >> >> low sulfur" diesel more than a decade after Europe did. So Mercedes
>> >> >> and other companies had more than a decade to sort out the changes
>> >> >> needed in machines to accommodate the cleaner fuel.
>> >> >> As a separate, but also important factor, what we in the U.S. call
>> >> >> "ultra low sulfur" fuel is VASTLY higher in sulfur than what Europe
>> >> >> calls low sulfur fuel. Adding the word "ultra" to the name doesn't
>> >> >> change the scientific realities.
>> >> >> Tom
>> >> >> In a message dated 11/2/2011 3:30:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> >> >> doug.traylor@cebridge.net <mailto:doug.traylor%40cebridge.net>
>> <mailto:doug.traylor%40cebridge.net> writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> * Here is a large part of the answer as too why Diesel Fuel is so
>> >> >> much more expensive than gasoline,, we have small mountains of
>> >> >> sulfur along the ship channel here in Houston area, as per the
>> >> >> EPA, they have to refine almost all the sulfur from the Diesel
>> >> >> fuel,too make ultra low sulfur fuels,,thats very expensive, an
>> >> >> then someone has too store all that huge amount of sulfur, thats
>> >> >> very expensive, too much of it, an nothing its good for either.
>> >> >> So, NOW we pay at the pump.*
>> >> >> **
>> >> >> * Back in the good old days of cheap Diesel fuel, all that sulfur
>> >> >> went out the tailpipe as pollution, an eventually acid rain an
>> >> >> such,,, you guys from California should remember, an know that
>> >> >> clean air costs us all money,, ya do remember CARB right, well its
>> >> >> all over Texas too now, we pay about 50 cents a gallon of Diesel
>> >> >> for cleaner air, which is rare around Houston..*
>> >> >> **
>> >> >> * My concern, being a long time Diesel Tech /Instructor, is what
>> >> >> is the long term effect upon my darling 300d s fuel system, an
>> >> >> pistons, maybe valves. Will my like new running engine still last
>> >> >> forever with the ultra low sulfur or not,, thats a good question. *
>> >> >> **
>> >> >> * So bottom line, now we are having too pay a lot extra for the
>> >> >> ultra low sulfur Diesel fuel, is it worth the cost, in cancer
>> >> >> rate, an are we loosing part of the energy in the fuel at the same
>> >> >> time. Our exhaust systems should last longer, without all the
>> >> >> sulfuric acid coming thu. *
>> >> >> **
>> >> >> * Lots of unanswered questions other than the premium cost we
>> >> >> are having to pay at the pump. I do not think there are answers to
>> >> >> many of the questions, but one thing for sure, our Mercedes
>> >> >> engines were designed to run on Diesel fuel that contained mucho
>> >> >> sulfur, a type fuel no longer available, except in maybe Mexico. *
>> >> >> * Anyone want about a million tons of raw sulfur, Texas will
>> >> >> sell it to you CHEAP, almost free, come get the stuff, makes an
>> >> >> ugly mountain here in Texas. Plus it stinks like someone eating
>> >> >> too much bean dip. *
>> >> >> * Doug Traylor 300d daily driver, 300SD carport parts queen
>> >> >> w/ wunderbar turbo engine. *
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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