Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: diesel why the cost, don't blame the tree huggers...

 

Ben,
please explain?

Henry

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From: <bgiovan@cavtel.net>
To: <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: diesel why the cost, don't blame the tree
huggers...

> My diesel has no sulfur.
>
> Ben near Detroit.
>
> On 11/2/2011 10:16 AM, audiolaw@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> It should also be noted that we in the U.S. started using "ultra
>> low sulfur" diesel more than a decade after Europe did. So Mercedes
>> and other companies had more than a decade to sort out the changes
>> needed in machines to accommodate the cleaner fuel.
>> As a separate, but also important factor, what we in the U.S. call
>> "ultra low sulfur" fuel is VASTLY higher in sulfur than what Europe
>> calls low sulfur fuel. Adding the word "ultra" to the name doesn't
>> change the scientific realities.
>> Tom
>> In a message dated 11/2/2011 3:30:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> doug.traylor@cebridge.net writes:
>>
>> * Here is a large part of the answer as too why Diesel Fuel is so
>> much more expensive than gasoline,, we have small mountains of
>> sulfur along the ship channel here in Houston area, as per the
>> EPA, they have to refine almost all the sulfur from the Diesel
>> fuel,too make ultra low sulfur fuels,,thats very expensive, an
>> then someone has too store all that huge amount of sulfur, thats
>> very expensive, too much of it, an nothing its good for either.
>> So, NOW we pay at the pump.*
>> **
>> * Back in the good old days of cheap Diesel fuel, all that sulfur
>> went out the tailpipe as pollution, an eventually acid rain an
>> such,,, you guys from California should remember, an know that
>> clean air costs us all money,, ya do remember CARB right, well its
>> all over Texas too now, we pay about 50 cents a gallon of Diesel
>> for cleaner air, which is rare around Houston..*
>> **
>> * My concern, being a long time Diesel Tech /Instructor, is what
>> is the long term effect upon my darling 300d s fuel system, an
>> pistons, maybe valves. Will my like new running engine still last
>> forever with the ultra low sulfur or not,, thats a good question. *
>> **
>> * So bottom line, now we are having too pay a lot extra for the
>> ultra low sulfur Diesel fuel, is it worth the cost, in cancer
>> rate, an are we loosing part of the energy in the fuel at the same
>> time. Our exhaust systems should last longer, without all the
>> sulfuric acid coming thu. *
>> **
>> * Lots of unanswered questions other than the premium cost we
>> are having to pay at the pump. I do not think there are answers to
>> many of the questions, but one thing for sure, our Mercedes
>> engines were designed to run on Diesel fuel that contained mucho
>> sulfur, a type fuel no longer available, except in maybe Mexico. *
>> * Anyone want about a million tons of raw sulfur, Texas will
>> sell it to you CHEAP, almost free, come get the stuff, makes an
>> ugly mountain here in Texas. Plus it stinks like someone eating
>> too much bean dip. *
>> * Doug Traylor 300d daily driver, 300SD carport parts queen
>> w/ wunderbar turbo engine. *
>>
>>
>

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