--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, audiolaw@... wrote:
>
> Caitlin:
>
> I hope that you have the Haynes Book of Lies (HBOL) for the MBZ 123
> diesels. This is less than $30 and has reasonable engine pictures for the
> valve adjust procedure. Your 126 follows the same procedure as a 123 300D
> turbo.
This is also expected at xmas time :) but I wonder if my friend with the 300TD has one. If not, I bet I can sneak a peek at one in the store until I actually have one...or check on Freecycle.
I'm still fuzzy on exactly how to position the camshaft lobes and exactly where to stick the feeler gauge AND I also suspect when I'm looking at the engine in 3D it will be an A-ha! moment and make total sense. Sounds like HBOL diagrams would be really helpful.
> This is useful, because MBZ put adjacent cylinder inlet valves
> together and adjacent exhaust valves together.
Gotcha! Now that makes sense of the "mark off" diagrams in the booklet I have...cool.
> You want to look at the throttle linkage, and move it around. You
> will figure out how to disconnect the fewest pieces to free the valve cover.
> Labeling and pictures can't hurt. Mostly, you are just disconnecting from
> the parts that go to the throttle link that comes through the firewall, one
> link that heads south on the left side of the engine, and one that goes to
> the cruise control (of course, I'm forgetting something, maybe the cable
> link on the back of the box on top of the valve cover).
This is great! Thanks, Tom...pretty darn do-able.
> DO NOT adjust ANY of the linkage length adjustments.
Understood!
Caitlin
Santa Fe
> In a message dated 12/4/2011 6:07:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> tinymachine@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Tom, correct...I'm still tool hunting (and by hunting, I actually do mean
> "waiting until I have about $30 for it") for the *basic* tools. I got all
> the specialty stuff early on as part of a package (with fuel and oil filters,
> etc) but need the basic tools to turn the engine (either via crankshaft or
> the power steering way)
>
> Also, we're down to sharing this one car, so I can't take it out of circ
> for too long and I have a feeling the first time I'll do this it will take
> me all day due to unfamiliarity. I got excited because we actually had 2
> cars...for about a week...bought a (lemon) Saab and even though we both knew
> better, did NOT have it checked before handing over the money.
>
> So while I've been waiting on being able to tackle this, I was boning up
> on my engine anatomy and how the engine works at How Stuff Works. I've got
> instructions in a booklet, but the pics are crummy, and I'm a visual
> learner. NOW I know what a camshaft lobe is ;) and honestly the procedure looks
> pretty simple IF you know what parts are called. Which I am still learning.
>
> I even have a new seal (mine is leaking) and the crush washers waiting!
>
> My mechanic did offer to show me how once things slowed down in his
> shop...maybe it's time to gently check in and see if this is a real possibility...
>
> I don't know how long to plan for dis/re-assembling my throttle
> linkages...I know you don't have to undo everything to get the valve cover off, but I
> can't figure out which I DO need, so I figure I'll label, photo, then do
> them all...and lube before put-together.
>
> Anyway...a lot of blah blah...but yeah...I'm antsy to get it done and
> feeling a little held back.
>
> Caitlin
> Santa Fe
>
> --- In _diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) , audiolaw@ wrote:
>
> > Caitlin,
> >
> > Last time we communicated, you were still holding off on getting the
> > valve adjustment done, or getting the tools to do it yourself. You will
> > find that the engine starts more easily and runs better when it has
> properly
> > adjusted valves.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/3/2011 4:58:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > bstromsoe@ writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > As a point of refinement - (for me anyway) - when I start my cars, I
> > listen for the "clunk" when the glow plug relay has done its job and I
> start my
> > engine without depressing the pedal at all because I have sufficiently
> hot
> > glow plug temps. However, when I am brain dead and forget to listen for
> the
> > clunk thereby shortcutting the cycle, then I must depress the pedal 1/2
> to
> > 2/3 of the way because I committed either a venal or mortal sin (I'm not
> > Catholic so I don't know the vernacular). My sin is that by not
> listening for
> > the clunk, I did not allow my glow plugs to heat the chambers up to an
> > appropriate temperature to fire the fuel. Then I am reduced to cranking
> the
> > engine in order to generate high enough cylinder temps to ignite the
> fuel via
> > compression.
> >
> >
> > brian from la verne, ca
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________
> > From: CaitlinDean <tinymachine@>
> > To: _diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com)
> > Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:57 PM
> > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Cold Startin'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm just following what it tells me in my manual (83
> 300SD)...re-iterated
> > and made clear by the fine folks on this group :)
> >
> > I originally thought it was the pump the throttle...now it's clear that
> > they (manual) says to just push it down and hold...etc etc.
> >
> > When it's warmer, I don't do that at all and she starts up fine. I'm
> > hoping with the more work I get done on her, she'll cold start better n
> better...
> >
> > Thought about asking Santa for a garage...but that seemed a bit big ;)
> >
> > Caitlin
> > Santa Fe
> >
> > --- In __diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) ) , Nate Rector <tccservice111@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have temps to zero,and I start normal no throttle as it floods the
> > engine.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: BStromsoe <bstromsoe@>
> > > To: "__diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) ) " <__diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) ) >
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 6:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Cold Startin'
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > > Well, truckers used to put a charcoal fire under their engines in cold
> > weather. Personally, if I lived in 0-25F weather and had a garage, I
> would
> > either have my block heater going, or a 100 watt work light sitting
> under my
> > hood. But, our LA cold is only 40F so I cycle the glow plugs once,
> > listen for the clunk, and start right up with no fuss or muss.
> > >
> > >
> > > brian from la verne, ca
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: CaitlinDean <tinymachine@>
> > > To: __diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
> (mailto:_diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) _
> > (mailto:_diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:diesel_mercedes@y
> ahoogroups.com) )
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:15 PM
> > > Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Cold Startin'
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > I *finally* got an opportunity today to test out all that good cold
> > starting info passed around the board lately. I've been practicing "the
> drill"
> > but honestly it's only been between low 30's up to the 40's here in the
> > morning, and that's no fun. NOT that 26f is really cold, but I had my
> first
> > "failure" using the regular drill.
> > >
> > > So I remembered someone posted that when it's really cold they cycle
> the
> > plugs 3 times...so I did that and she fired RIGHT up, after my first 2
> > failures.
> > >
> > > I do have about 90% Biodiesel in the 1/3 full tank right now...totally
>
> > meant to get it to about B50 before the cold snap. And didn't. But the
> drill
> > is working for me, either way!
> > >
> > > Of course, my real problem with cold starting is the time it takes to
> > "warm up"...and by that I mean...it takes what feels like a really long
> time
> > before I can drive the car without it stalling. If I have to reverse
> first,
> > it's even worse, but I digress.
> > >
> > > Is this most likely something that will change after my valve
> > adjustment? Or a more likely culprit that I can chase? Oh, my coolant is
> also pretty
> > shot and desperately in need of a change. (Luckily we do get warm winter
> > days here, so it's on the "really soon" list)
> > >
> > > Anyway...thanks to all who chimed in with cold starting tips!
> > >
> > > Caitlin
> > > Santa Fe
> > >
> >
>
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