Diesel RVs: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Veggie Oil KILLS Diesel Engines

Mike, I want you to move to the Los Angeles area, and share your stuff.

brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K) Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Mike Glavin <magconsulting2@yahoo.com>
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re : Veggie Oil KILLS Diesel Engines

I too have run veg oil and believe it to be as good as diesel if done right. Mine is run through a centrifuge that claims to filter out particles less than a micron. Regular oil filters are only about 25 microns. It has an engine coolant heat exchanger in the spare tank in the trunk and a electric heated 5 micron filter before it enters the injectors. I start on diesel and don't switch over until engine coolant is at full temp. About a minute or so before I get to where I'm going, I switch back to diesel to flush the injectors. The 82 300D runs better on veg than diesel. Probably because the cetane level in veg is generally better than diesel. My cost is what ever I pay for the veg and electric for a 2 hour run of a 1/2 hp elect motor and single water heater element per 55 gallons cleaned. Centrifuge is mounted on top on 55 gal barrel. Veg is pumped from the bottom into the cent at 90 psi via the motor. Heating element is inserted into the side of drum with a similar threaded port as a water heater. I have it on a 220 cable that plugs into my dryer outlet. I pick up the veg. Pour through a strainer as I fill the drum. When full I plug in the heater. Come back in about an hour and if it 180-200 deg, I unplug heat and turn on the pump. Come back in 2 hours which equals about 4 passes of oil through the cent. The temp cooks off moisture and thins the oil so dirt can be spun out in the cent. 55 gal of near see through oil no matter the color going in. Unscrew the cover to the cent, wipe out the sludge with a shop rag, good to go another drum. Not counting pickup, about 20 min invested per 55 gal

Mike Glavin

573-338-6539

On Jul 2, 2013, at 8:35 AM, "Nate" <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yes Lawrence but 99 % of the people who go in for veggie oil do so because they're cheap and lazy , too much so to properly convert the car or prepare the fuel .

Them's the _facts_ Jack ~ you don't have to like 'em , I don't .

Were I not so lazy , I'd prolly go this route because I'm ' Yankee Thrifty ' (means : CHEAP) . but cheap fuel until I destroy my car , isn't good long term cheaposity , knowhutimean ? .

-Nate
Lawrence wrote :
>
> But for the rust I'da bought it and fixed it for resale as the poor
> running is almost certainly caused by crappo filthy veggie oil .
>
> Yes Nate we know you don't like veg oil in diesels.....but I have been doing this for 10 years. Works for me and I just got back from a round trip San Francisco to Redlands with no incidents. I've had diesels that have run smooth and start right up. It's hard. If there is one little leak you will have hard starting and rough running for a minute or so. It's not for everyone but someone like you would figure it out. You must have electric line heaters & water based heat exchanger. The temp of my oil is 200 degrees F. just before going into the cylinders. Do I have blow by? Yes. I drove one 240 like this for over 100,000 miles and it had over 300k on the clock to begin with. The car ran better when I sold it than it did when I bought it. BTW my oil with just filtering using old blue jeans looks like it came out of the bottle. Lawrence Rhodes.....300TD...Might be selling soon to get our second electric car....If I sell I will
> include all my veggie sources....
>