On 1/10/2011 12:34 PM, briankk wrote:
Actually as the owner of both 300D's and 300SD's, I think the 300D is by far a better car. The SD is built using a lot of the 300Ds components. including the engine, trans and a lot of the underpinnings, so you have a larger heavier car on top of the 300Ds parts. Also in the rustbelt, the vinyl siding on the SD seems to promote more rust. Admittedly the 300SD is larger and more luxurious, but I tend to like lighter and simpler.
And some of us are into old pickups as well as diesel. This thing, for instance is the ideal truck, runs on crude oil right out of the ground...
--- On Mon, 1/10/11, Mark in Lakewood CO <beeser750@q.com> wrote:
From: Mark in Lakewood CO <beeser750@q.com>
Subject: RE: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Diesel newbie question on mid-80s diesel
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 7:33 AM
(snip)
And, as Lawrence pointed out, a great draw of the iron-head 4- and 5-cylinder cars is their tolerance of fuel type and quality. You can, literally, grow your own fuel....
Don't worry about changing anyone's mind here. We are Diesel Orthodox; no amount of persuation or persecution will sway us. Find a nice ironhead, especially an '81 to '85 300SD, and you'll happily use it to push the Volvo over a cliff....
(Just kidding, kinda....)
Mark in Lakewood, CO
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
From: vwnate1@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:24:02 +0000
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Diesel newbie question on mid-80s diesel
All the wonderful benefits of driving old Mercedes Diesels are not apparent on a " Baby Benz " ~ this doesn't mean it's not a nice car , just that you old Volvo will prolly be cheaper & easier .
Of course , if you find an older , pre 1985 Mercedes Diesel , prepare
to surrender to the addiction....
I'd not give over $1,000 for that 190D .
Nate
Matt wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've got a good neighbor (& friend), who has been vacillating on whether he's going to sell his 1986 190d 2.5 with a 5-speed manual transmission and a truckload of miles -- 285,000. I think he's going to sell it, and has offered it to me. I'm probably going to buy, but am looking for some pre-buy advice.
>
> First, is this a good (not trouble-prone) engine/transmission combination? It must be, as the car seems to run well with nearly 300,000 miles... Is there anything I should out for specifically upon inspection? What would be a fair "good neighbor" price?
>
> Secondly, can someone explain the draw of these diesels? I'm almost assuredly going to buy the car, so maybe I'll figure it out as I drive, but right now the benefits elude me. At first, I thought these cars would be extremely long-lived, which they are (obviously), but they also seem to require a lot of maintenance to get there. My gas Volvo 740 (with an equal level of maintenance) will likely reach 400,000; it already has 292,000 and runs great. Then I thought they'd be incredibly fuel efficient, which they are as well, but with the price of diesel being higher than gas, that benefit is mitigated to a large extent. Finally, diesels are not quicker or more powerful. They might be easier to work on, but my Volvo is pretty easy and straight-forward already. then you've got the added "difficulties" of cold starts, finding diesel, etc.
>
> I'm not trying to alter anyone's opinion of diesels. I'm sincerely wondering what the draw is! Any insight would be appreciated to clarify it in my own mind's eye.
>
> Warmest regards,
> Matt
>
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