yeah Tom, good points.....just thinking and hoping for the best.
and yeah, I laugh when someone says they get "40+" MPG in standard
driving......I suppose it'd be possible from Donner Summit (7000'+
elevation) to Sacramento (60' is elevation) since it's basically one, 60
mile down hill shot.........
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: <
audiolaw@aol.com>
To: <
diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] They LIED
Henry,
I can only know what he said, not what he might have been trying to
"refer to".
But the reality is that we pay all public school teachers poorly, and
expect them to work long hours, provide their own supplies, and deal with
troubled children with uninvolved parents.
Public school teachers, even with the highest seniority, rarely even
approach $100K pay. And there retirement benefits are a percentage of
their
pay, not more than 100%!
We have been slashing medical benefits for retirees around the nation.
Just yesterday, Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels said that Indiana's
reduction of public worker pay and medical benefits was "GOOD for the
workers."
I guess the workers with the best situations would be those whose pay and
benefits was reduced to zero!
One point to consider is that lying about teachers' pay and retirement
is an indication of the writer's belief that his political beliefs can't
be supported by actual facts.
I just hope that we don't get to a position where we have so little
faith in our Mercedes autos that we start to believe that we have to lie
about them to justify owning them. (OOPS!, we're already there, at least
for
those guys who don't have faith in their 123s, except when they make up
stories about them getting high 40s for mileage.)
The reality based owners know that a 123 is a great vehicle, even if
it isn't particularly aerodynamic.
Tom
In a message dated 6/10/2012 7:56:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
ygmir111@att.net writes:
Tom:
could he be referring the 100K to retirement pay, and insurance coverage's
and such? I wonder if it'd come close, including all benefits?
Henry
----- Original Message -----
From: <
_audiolaw@aol.com_ (mailto:
audiolaw@aol.com) >
To: <
_diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:
diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com) >
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] They LIED
> Brad:
>
> What do you mean when you say that you don't want to start a political
> firestorm, and then follow that with the statement below?
>
> There are PUBLIC RECORDS available that political activists pore over.
> NONE of them has been able to document any number of teachers drawing
> $100K+ / year pensions.
>
> If your political beliefs depend on intentionally false statements,
> how long before you are following candidates who tell you to believe
that
> the
> world is flat?
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 6/10/2012 5:23:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>
_brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com_ (mailto:
brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com) writes:
>
> Here, we finance public obligations thru property taxation; a nice house
> like those found in mid level neighborhoods in CA would be from $5 to
> 15K/yr
> in property tax. I guess it is to be expected when retiring teachers and
> other civil servants receive $100K+/yr pensions.
>
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