Diesel RVs: Re: [diesel_mercedes] They LIED

I didn't mean to start a political firestorm. I like the group and read most posts. It is a pity about California; I visited during the late 80's and the climate is fantastic. Unfortunately, the state is bankrupt and I suspect the US taxpayer will be paying off the debt obligations and unfunded liabilities sometime in the near future or the state will sufffer the fate of Vallejo.

Here, we finance public obligations thru property taxation; a nice house like those found in mid level neighborhoods in CA would be from $5 to 15K/yr in property tax. I guess it is to be expected when retiring teachers and other civil servants receive $100K+/yr pensions. There is a publicly subsidized wind farm here that has not been successful, FWIW. We'll see how it shakes out.

One of my buddies bought a newer Dodge Diesel Van to replace his Dodge that had the Merc aluminium diesel, modeled after the motor found in the 300D's (forgive my inability to recite model numbers). The dealer was anxious to get the older van to resell and because of the high mileage and the fact that he travels thru the Bronx occasionally (fearingg a breakdown), he bought the new Dodge non-MB diesel van. Well it used about 2 qts of oil every two weeks/1000 miles; the dealer said this was "normal operation" use.....pure BS. He sold the van and bought some Jap iron. Whenever he and I visit, I tell him; "You shoulda kept the MB motored van." This is the problem with domestic manufacturers; they just don't care and they destroy what was a great brand like MB.

Happy Sunday.

--- On Sat, 6/9/12, audiolaw@aol.com <audiolaw@aol.com> wrote:

From: audiolaw@aol.com <audiolaw@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] They LIED
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 9, 2012, 9:18 PM

    Yeah! 2-4% is the best we can do with both wind and solar, particularly here in So. Cal.

    I saw a news story recently that Germany has actually achieved 50% of its energy needs from solar and other alternative energy sources.

    But Germany is so different from So. Cal.

    For one thing, they're so much closer to the equator! So they have so much more sunlight energy to work with.

    And they pay their unionized workers much more than we pay our unionized workers and MUCH MUCH more than we pay our non-unionized workers (so they get workers actually contributing ideas and thinking to products and processes).

    And because all their children are actually EDUCATED in public schools, instead of just being warehoused there, INCLUDING the children of all the immigrant workers that come to Germany for good jobs, they have much more intellectual talent to draw on to improve their society.

    And because their workers and workers' families all have health care, they don't have people losing work or thinking time waiting in line for medical attention, and they are healthier overall and better able to think about innovative energy development and usage.

    But that's alright, as long as our industrial leaders keep raking in profits (which they can park overseas) and our middle class keeps having declining incomes (in real dollars) it's just fine for us to be convinced that 2-4% is the best we can do. That just proves that we are so much 'freer' than those unlucky Germans. (Sigh - when will they ever learn to make a decent car in that country?)

In a message dated 6/9/2012 6:03:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com writes:

Gas will be back around $2.50 in November, my prediction.

I like the idea of wind and solar, but it can only produce about 2-4% energy of our needs from what I understand. Diesel and longer chain hydrocarbons are the energy source for most large scale transpo. Natural gas is taking a beating, now.

--- On Sat, 6/9/12, BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] They LIED
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, June 9, 2012, 2:34 PM

It's i9n Venezuela. When I was there in 2003, it was $0.30 per liter

brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K) Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 8:23 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] They LIED

I see where crude oil has dropped to $84 / barrel , so where the crap is our $2.50 Fuel ? .

When it was $5.00 / barrel , Diesel briefly jumped to $5.00 / gallon in Cali.

Just this morning I saw $3.79 / gallon branded Diesel fuel , Gasoline is still $4.05 .

-Nate