Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Tranny shift kit-repairs the 2-3 flare

 

My 2 cents. Having 2 almost identical 83 300d's with different shifting & vacuum issues, lets just say that Martha shuts down immediately and shifts smoothly and wonderfully in all gears with no flaring.

But, Mary shuts down after 3-5 seconds, has a vacuum leak (in the door I think) and shifts with a bit of a clunk at 2-3 and 3-4 if I am not feathering the throttle. Another thing to look at "someday" when the sun comes out again.

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Tranny shift kit-repairs the 2-3 flare

 
Chip,

It seems like when you have vacuum leaks, the tranny slams into the next
gear, not flares. Sometimes, if you monkey around with the modulator to
get rid of the slamming, the 2-3 flare gets worse. Somehow I lost all
vacuum to the tranny last summer, so the tranny was slamming all the
time, until I got that sorted out. My last tranny had a 2-3 flare too,
before it exploded inside, so I thought that it was normal for these
older trannys. I was excited to hear that the 2-3 flare could be fixed
cheaply, as I thought that I was going to need a rebuild real soon, and
that will run a couple grand. Now, I've pushed that rebuild back a year
or two.

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA
==

On 12/21/12 7:24 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: Tranny shift kit-repairs the 2-3 flare
> Posted by: "Chip"czulli@gmail.com czulli
> Date: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:39 am ((PST))
>
> Rob,
>
> Can you tell us what Transmeister charged to do the work?
>
> With all the discussion on flaring on this board, this is the first I have seen with fixes around new springs in valve body. I have the same problem but I was just certain that the problem was that vacuum leak that I still had not found.
>
> Any parts source for this work?
>
> Chip
> Flaring in Houston
>
> --- Indiesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Aleph93<aleph93@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >My tranny had been shifting from 2nd-3rd with a large flare, depending
>> >on acceleration. After getting the vacuum adjusted in the summer,
>> >because it was slamming and flaring, I was told the 2-3 flare was caused
>> >by a broken spring in the valve body, which I could visualize, as I put
>> >in a shift kit into a T-400 tranny many years ago. A shift kit usually
>> >is made up of a set of various gauge springs and metal balls. This time,
>> >I had the guy at Transmeister do the shift kit for a fare price. The big
>> >flare at 2-3 is gone. If you have a flare at the 2-3 shift, it can be
>> >fixed on the car w/o a full rebuild.
>> >
>> >This is an old worn-used tranny that I put in 2yrs ago, with a nice long
>> >lag when shifting into reverse (worn bands), so I'm just trying to get
>> >it to last a few more years.
>> >
>> >Rob
>> >'85 300D
>> >Garden Grove, CA
>> >



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Re: [diesel_mercedes]Re: Tranny shift kit-repairs the 2-3 flare

 

I'm not sure if the valve body springs are responsible for the 1-2 shift
flare, or not.
Could be the modulator.
45k+ miles/ Service that thing.

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA
=

On 12/21/12 7:24 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: Tranny shift kit-repairs the 2-3 flare
> Posted by: "Steve Parolin"stevenparolin@yahoo.com stevenparolin
> Date: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:35 am ((PST))
>
> I have a flare in the 1-2 shift, when accelerating very slowly, I originally assumed it was low vaccuum as it did not do it when accelerating normally or briskly (Vaccuum pump spinning faster).
>
> That beling said, it is also greatly reduced, almost totally gone to the point that a non car person would not notice it, when the temp drops to about 45 F.
>
> So hear are the questions:
> 1) The trans fluid will be slighly thicker could that be the cause of the improvment ?
>
> 2) Is there a slight vaccuum leak the shrinks in the cold and seals itself up?
>
> 3) Both or something else ?
>
> 84 300D, non turbo (non US model) 195K miles. I dont know when the last trans service was, but it was at least 45K+ miles ago.
>
> Steve
>
> --- Indiesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Chip"<czulli@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >Rob,
>> >
>> >Can you tell us what Transmeister charged to do the work?
>> >
>> >With all the discussion on flaring on this board, this is the first I have seen with fixes around new springs in valve body. I have the same problem but I was just certain that the problem was that vacuum leak that I still had not found.
>> >
>> >Any parts source for this work?
>> >
>> >Chip
>> >Flaring in Houston
>> >
>> >--- Indiesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Aleph93 <aleph93@> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >My tranny had been shifting from 2nd-3rd with a large flare, depending
>>> > >on acceleration. After getting the vacuum adjusted in the summer,
>>> > >because it was slamming and flaring, I was told the 2-3 flare was caused
>>> > >by a broken spring in the valve body, which I could visualize, as I put
>>> > >in a shift kit into a T-400 tranny many years ago. A shift kit usually
>>> > >is made up of a set of various gauge springs and metal balls. This time,
>>> > >I had the guy at Transmeister do the shift kit for a fare price. The big
>>> > >flare at 2-3 is gone. If you have a flare at the 2-3 shift, it can be
>>> > >fixed on the car w/o a full rebuild.
>>> > >
>>> > >This is an old worn-used tranny that I put in 2yrs ago, with a nice long
>>> > >lag when shifting into reverse (worn bands), so I'm just trying to get
>>> > >it to last a few more years.
>>> > >
>>> > >Rob
>>> > >'85 300D
>>> > >Garden Grove, CA
>>> > >
>> >

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Tranny shift kit-repairs the 2-3 flare

 

Chip,

It seems like when you have vacuum leaks, the tranny slams into the next
gear, not flares. Sometimes, if you monkey around with the modulator to
get rid of the slamming, the 2-3 flare gets worse. Somehow I lost all
vacuum to the tranny last summer, so the tranny was slamming all the
time, until I got that sorted out. My last tranny had a 2-3 flare too,
before it exploded inside, so I thought that it was normal for these
older trannys. I was excited to hear that the 2-3 flare could be fixed
cheaply, as I thought that I was going to need a rebuild real soon, and
that will run a couple grand. Now, I've pushed that rebuild back a year
or two.

Rob
'85 300D
Garden Grove, CA
==

On 12/21/12 7:24 PM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: Tranny shift kit-repairs the 2-3 flare
> Posted by: "Chip"czulli@gmail.com czulli
> Date: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:39 am ((PST))
>
> Rob,
>
> Can you tell us what Transmeister charged to do the work?
>
> With all the discussion on flaring on this board, this is the first I have seen with fixes around new springs in valve body. I have the same problem but I was just certain that the problem was that vacuum leak that I still had not found.
>
> Any parts source for this work?
>
> Chip
> Flaring in Houston
>
> --- Indiesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Aleph93<aleph93@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >My tranny had been shifting from 2nd-3rd with a large flare, depending
>> >on acceleration. After getting the vacuum adjusted in the summer,
>> >because it was slamming and flaring, I was told the 2-3 flare was caused
>> >by a broken spring in the valve body, which I could visualize, as I put
>> >in a shift kit into a T-400 tranny many years ago. A shift kit usually
>> >is made up of a set of various gauge springs and metal balls. This time,
>> >I had the guy at Transmeister do the shift kit for a fare price. The big
>> >flare at 2-3 is gone. If you have a flare at the 2-3 shift, it can be
>> >fixed on the car w/o a full rebuild.
>> >
>> >This is an old worn-used tranny that I put in 2yrs ago, with a nice long
>> >lag when shifting into reverse (worn bands), so I'm just trying to get
>> >it to last a few more years.
>> >
>> >Rob
>> >'85 300D
>> >Garden Grove, CA
>> >

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Help picking out a diesel w123 or w124 for daily commuter

 


Ok?

I am not to sure how you figure that?

 

Sarah

_____________________________________

 

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Chip" wrote:
>
> It's always good to hear from the only woman we have left!!
>
> Chip
> Houston
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Caitlin Dean tinymachine@ wrote:
> >
> > Welcome!
> >
> > You can even get by without a garage ;) Though of course it's very
> > helpful...especially on those rainy days.
> >
> > Driveway newb mechanic in sunny Santa Fe, NM...
> > Caitlin
> > 1983 300SD
> >
> > --
> > Forget safety. Live where you fear to live.
> > Destroy your reputation. Be notorious.
> > I have tried prudent planning long enough.
> > From now on, I'll be mad.
> >
> > - Rumi
> >
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Help picking out a diesel w123 or w124 for daily commuter

 

Does this look too good to be true? Miles seem super low...


Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 20, 2012, at 12:45 PM, "J.O." <mnijfo@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I have a 1991 300D with 285K miles that I drive locally daily and on 500 mile trips periodically. It is a great ride and gets 31+MPG on the road trips and 28-29MPG aroulocal driving.

I've had a 1984 300CD and a 1987 300D as well and prefer the W124 series (87-95) for dependability and comfort.

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>
> Hi Folks --
>
> Looking forward to your help. Here is my situation. I am currently driving a 2003 Honda Element with 125k. I am looking to acquire either a w123 300d Turbo or w124 300d 2.5 turbo diesel to become my daily commuter to and from work.
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : W126 280K mi, mega valve slop

 


Bummer , this .

If you like the car (W-126's are *very* nice but not everyones cuppa tea) , I'd find me a good , _HONEST_ indie M-B Diesel rated Mechanic and give him the car and both engines so he can cherry pick the best parts & rebuild one.....

As I flew my old 300CD Diesel Sports Coupe up the mounatin at post legal speeds the other day for fun & lunch , I thought about the thousands and thousands of Dollars I've dumped into this grubby old car and every Penny was well worth it ! .

-Nate
Barton wrote :
>
> Fellow MB diesel heads....greetings, salutations and the best of the holiday season to all!
>
> Thinking it wise to have my car serviced while away on vacation, I dropped off Silvia ('84 300 SD) at my (very) trusted mechanic's shop for an oil change and a valve adjustment. Some of you may know I'm also a Saab-nut, and he's been my trusted mechanic for 15+ years with no problems whatsoever - so when I bought Silvia, he agreed to perform basic maintenance and the occasional non-vacuum/non-diesel engine work.
>
> So..this morning I get a call from the shop....and....after adjusting 1st first exhaust valve, he started to adjust the 2nd exhaust valve and could not get it to stay adjusted properly after loosening/adjusting/tightening several times. That's when he noticed that the entire valve was able to move as much as a 1/4" in the valve guide. He said he was amazed that it had not yet swallowed a valve already.
>
> So I'm looking for some advice here.....I can probably find a machine shop to do the work, but it could take some time - if anyone knows of a skilled shop in the greater Boston area, please advise. Also, I still have access the original engine for this car (you might recall previous postings from me documenting the engine swap some 3 years ago). This "spare" engine has approx 180k mi on it and was seized by the previous owner due to lack of oil. In theory, the head on that engine is good, and obviously that many less miles.
>
> So, what would you do? My brother (who has the spare engine), pointed out that if I recondition either of the heads, I could end up creating significant blow-by as if there are any "leaks", it almost certainly won't be through a reconditioned head. I would hate to spend $2k on parts/labor and head reconditioning just to put it al back together and destroy the lower half of the motor. One theory is to have the seized motor crated, shipped and re-built (I recall someone on this list reporting good success with a similar rebuild)....
>
> To be honest, we're all a little puzzled by this turn of events. The motor has been running smoothly with no outward problems - solid mileage, (22-25MPG city/hwy) and no significant or weird noises.
>
> I don't want this to be the straw that breaks the camel's back - but I also don't want to waste money chasing a problem that will just create new ones down the road.
>
> As always, I appreciate the advice and insights in this community. Awaiting your responses and until then, happy holidays and happy new year!
>
> -Barton
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: So Long Phil

 


Yep ;

Phil was one of the rare ones , he will be sorely missed .

-Nate
Brian wrote :
>
> In Memoriam...
> Phil
> Phil Reinhardt 1951-2012
>
> Late last month, the automotive community lost a beloved member...
>
> It is with a sad heart that we announce that Phil Reinhardt passed away on Wednesday, November 28, 2012, his birthday, from a heart attack. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Reinhardt Family at this time.
>
> Phil had just turned 61 - He was an outstanding team member, a pleasure to work with, an invaluable source of knowledge and most importantly, a true, genuine human being that went the extra mile for his customers, family and even strangers. He is irreplaceable.
>
> The following is an excerpt from Phil's family:
>
> Hello friends and family of Phil. I should probably just call everyone family because that is how our dad saw everyone. He was that amazing guy who would do anything for anybody who asked, gave selflessly of his time and money and hardly ever thought about himself. He loved Jesus, his family, loved to cook and would make huge meals to feed people, he would host karaoke, which was a passion of his, he loved cars and car parts and made it a life's work and dedication.
>
> Our dad was the most amazing man we have ever known and the loss of him has hit us hard. My dad passed away suddenly of a heart attack on Wednesday, November 28th which was also his 61st birthday. He loved life and lived it fiercely. One of my dad's favorite quotes was this, "...the purpose of life's journey is not to arrive at the grave with a well-preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, completely used up, yelling and screaming, what a ride!" This quote represents our dad well. Phil would give everything he owned, which wasn't much, to anyone who would ask.
>
> My dad loved to rock his Hawaiian shirts and favorite cowboy hat. He spoke with much joy and affection about all of the people he got to talk with everyday through his job with Pelican Parts. He loved people!
>
> My husband James has an introverted personality and he would marvel at my dad...how he made friends everywhere he went. We were in California at a dinner and western show event with him one year. He wandered off and we were trying to find him in the crowd of people. We finally found him off talking to a group of people. We stood there in awe as he easily joked and bantered with these strangers who, from an outside perspective, looked like long lost family. This couple on their honeymoon gave him their contact information so they could keep in touch. That was after a 20 minute conversation! What a gift he had, what a lover of people! He was the most non-judgmental, kind and loving man that has graced my life. Thank you everyone for caring for him and letting him touch your lives!
>
> He was very excited about moving back to California and joining us here on our home turf. He will be greatly missed here at Pelican Parts.
>
> Thank you for your understanding and support,
>
> The Pelican Parts Team
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Tranny shift kit-repairs the 2-3 flare

 


Good deal Rob ! .

The only hard part , is finding an _HONEST_ Mechanic .

Good luck with that one folks .

-Nate
Rob wrote :
>
> My tranny had been shifting from 2nd-3rd with a large flare, depending
> on acceleration. After getting the vacuum adjusted in the summer,
> because it was slamming and flaring, I was told the 2-3 flare was caused
> by a broken spring in the valve body, which I could visualize, as I put
> in a shift kit into a T-400 tranny many years ago. A shift kit usually
> is made up of a set of various gauge springs and metal balls. This time,
> I had the guy at Transmeister do the shift kit for a fare price. The big
> flare at 2-3 is gone. If you have a flare at the 2-3 shift, it can be
> fixed on the car w/o a full rebuild.
>
> This is an old worn-used tranny that I put in 2yrs ago, with a nice long
> lag when shifting into reverse (worn bands), so I'm just trying to get
> it to last a few more years.
>
> Rob
> '85 300D
> Garden Grove, CA
>

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[diesel_mercedes] Re : IMPROVED Exhaust Hanger Doughnuts -

 


Oops , Sorry ! .

Ask for 1985 450SL , that's why they have a 107 part # .

They look a little bit different too , there's a photo on the home page .

-Nate
Bobby wrote :
>
> Chris and Nate,
>
> the message is 44060 and the number is 107 492 00 44
>
> I tried to find it on Rockauto but could not pin it down.
>
> Bobby
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Nate <vwnate1@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > No problem Chris , that's what the list is for .
> >
> > If you go to the home page , it's listed in there somewhere , the part #
> > begins with 107.....
> >
> > Replace all of them with this one now and never need to again .
> >
> > -Nate
> > Chris wrote :
> > >
> > > I'm not sure that's what they're called but I noticed yesterday that
> > just about every single one on my car is cracked & not far from failure.
> > Â I seem to remember some info not long ago regarding which ones to buy.
> > Â My apologies for not saving the email but I thought I'd turn to the group
> > to eliminate having to buy them every few years which I think is what would
> > happen if I go with the cheapies. Â
> > >
> > > Thanks & Happy Holidays,
> > > Chris
> > > 75 240DÂ
> > > 84 380SL Euro
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[diesel_mercedes] Oh my aching head (W126 280K mi, mega valve slop)

 

Fellow MB diesel heads....greetings, salutations and the best of the holiday season to all!

Thinking it wise to have my car serviced while away on vacation, I dropped off Silvia ('84 300 SD) at my (very) trusted mechanic's shop for an oil change and a valve adjustment. Some of you may know I'm also a Saab-nut, and he's been my trusted mechanic for 15+ years with no problems whatsoever - so when I bought Silvia, he agreed to perform basic maintenance and the occasional non-vacuum/non-diesel engine work.

So..this morning I get a call from the shop....and....after adjusting 1st first exhaust valve, he started to adjust the 2nd exhaust valve and could not get it to stay adjusted properly after loosening/adjusting/tightening several times. That's when he noticed that the entire valve was able to move as much as a 1/4" in the valve guide. He said he was amazed that it had not yet swallowed a valve already.

So I'm looking for some advice here.....I can probably find a machine shop to do the work, but it could take some time - if anyone knows of a skilled shop in the greater Boston area, please advise. Also, I still have access the original engine for this car (you might recall previous postings from me documenting the engine swap some 3 years ago). This "spare" engine has approx 180k mi on it and was seized by the previous owner due to lack of oil. In theory, the head on that engine is good, and obviously that many less miles.

So, what would you do? My brother (who has the spare engine), pointed out that if I recondition either of the heads, I could end up creating significant blow-by as if there are any "leaks", it almost certainly won't be through a reconditioned head. I would hate to spend $2k on parts/labor and head reconditioning just to put it al back together and destroy the lower half of the motor. One theory is to have the seized motor crated, shipped and re-built (I recall someone on this list reporting good success with a similar rebuild)....

To be honest, we're all a little puzzled by this turn of events. The motor has been running smoothly with no outward problems - solid mileage, (22-25MPG city/hwy) and no significant or weird noises.

I don't want this to be the straw that breaks the camel's back - but I also don't want to waste money chasing a problem that will just create new ones down the road.

As always, I appreciate the advice and insights in this community. Awaiting your responses and until then, happy holidays and happy new year!

-Barton

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Help picking out a diesel w123 or w124 for daily commuter

 

Careful Chip - there are women lurking that some of you have chased away.  Which reminds me, Max - are you still out there? How bout Henry?  How about the rest of you whose voices we miss?

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: Chip <czulli@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:50 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Help picking out a diesel w123 or w124 for daily commuter

 
It's always good to hear from the only woman we have left!!

Chip
Houston

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Caitlin Dean <tinymachine@...> wrote:
>
> Welcome!
>
> You can even get by without a garage ;) Though of course it's very
> helpful...especially on those rainy days.
>
> Driveway newb mechanic in sunny Santa Fe, NM...
> Caitlin
> 1983 300SD
>
> --
> Forget safety. Live where you fear to live.
> Destroy your reputation. Be notorious.
> I have tried prudent planning long enough.
> From now on, I'll be mad.
>
> - Rumi
>



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Help picking out a diesel w123 or w124 for daily commuter

 

And I have a lot of tools, but no garage. Oh well, take yourself to Harbor Freight and Sears (Craftsman), and a lot of yard sales.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's
From: danvprod <danvprod@gmail.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:55 AM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Help picking out a diesel w123 or w124 for daily commuter

 
Thanks Caitlin and Chip--

I do have a nice garage, unfortunately not much in the way of tools ;)

Dan

--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, "Chip" <czulli@...> wrote:
>
> It's always good to hear from the only woman we have left!!
>
> Chip
> Houston
>
> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com, Caitlin Dean <tinymachine@> wrote:
> >
> > Welcome!
> >
> > You can even get by without a garage ;) Though of course it's very
> > helpful...especially on those rainy days.
> >
> > Driveway newb mechanic in sunny Santa Fe, NM...
> > Caitlin
> > 1983 300SD
> >
> > --
> > Forget safety. Live where you fear to live.
> > Destroy your reputation. Be notorious.
> > I have tried prudent planning long enough.
> > From now on, I'll be mad.
> >
> > - Rumi
> >
>



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