[Diesel-RVs] Re: Front End Diesel

I have an '83 Vogue 29' with a Chevy 6.2L diesel up front on a P-32
chassi .I like it .It's slow by todays standards but it gets me
where I need to go .I've had to Calif. and back ,to New Jersey 3
times , to Iowa , to Saginaw,Mi , and all places in between many
times and no problems with the engine .If I could afford one I would
get a DP but I can buy a lot of fuel with the difference .

Tom in Portsmouth ,Ohio

--- In Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com, "Gail" <rogailb@...> wrote:
>
> We are wondering if anyone has a front end diesel motorhome (FRED)
and
> what their experience is with it. We are considering the Allegro
Bay
> 35 TSB.
> Gail and Roger Bensing
> Wisconsin
>


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Re: [Diesel-RVs] Re: RID-X

I would venture to say that a lot of solid build up in black tanks has a lot to do with which side of the coach the toilet is on. On our 98 Dip, the toilet was on the drivers side of the coach which means the botton of the black tank just under the toilet is closer to the drain opening. Therefore any liquid in the tank has to help wash the solids out of the tank better than if the toilet is on the passenger side. On our 04 Windsor the toilet is on the passenger side so solids tend to collect more on the bottom of the tank because not enough liquid is available to wash them out across the length of the tank. Even with using the tank flusher, I still have solids remaining, especially when we park for a long time. I have had to run a water hose down the toilet several times to stir up the solids. I have used most all the brands of holding tank chemicals and none of them were better than the other in disolving the solids. I have found that Rid-X is the best and the
cheapest for odor control. Chuck B

FLW300@aol.com wrote: Gwen

That's a good rundown on black tank additives, but I for one do not agree
with your comments on Rid X. You are right, though, that it was not primarily
designed for RV holding tanks.

Still, many, many of us Monaco owners use Rid X and have no odor or
clogging. And, when you dump the tank, there is still a colony of bacteria left.

I would also note that I am starting to get handouts at some campgrounds
that if you have any formaldehyde based chemicals in your tank, that you should
not dump. (This is always "blamed" on the local sewage treatment facility's
rules.)

Fred White 02 Windsor, 05 Pilot
Polk City, FL & Trenton, ME

In a message dated 1/13/2008 5:33:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rvdreamin46@yahoo.com writes:

> What are the pros/cons of using rid-X in Black tank?
> Seems to me it would be better as used in homes septic tanks.
> Thanks for the help
>
> Al Schmadeke
>
Rid X says on their website that they haven't tested it for RV
use and therefore make no representations that it will or won't work.
Bacteria are the way to go if you are going to use anything...but Rid
X isn't designed for holding tanks.

One difference is that in some climates our holding tank water gets
much hotter or much colder than water in a septic system which is
underground far enough to be a nice even temp most of the time. They
say some of the RV bacteria products use critters that can survive and
work in high temps in particular.

Rid-X has to be better, anyway, than formaldehyde or the so-called
naturals that release formaldehyde even though they say formaldehyde
free. Like.. bronopol (Thetfd natural) or the stuff in TST green --
both produce formaldehyde. I'm a science freak who gets her jollies I
looking up what is in the stuff on the shelves since they all look
alike in the store.

Odorlos is a nitrate which is a fertilizer and I do not understand how
it works, but it did seem to do a pretty good job on odors, but it
didn't seem to do a good job on helping to clean out our tank or keep
our gages clean. Plus I figured waste should already have plenty of
nitrate in it and we don;t need more to find its way into streams or
ground water if the parks dump station has any leaks.....

Borax can be useful, but if you have pets or grandkids around, keep it
locked up and hard to find. I believe a quarter ounce or less can
kill a pet or a small child and that isn't much!

We have used another Wal-Mart product called RVTec100 for years
whenever we can get it. Costs about $4.50 a bottle and goes a long
way. Good odor eaters from our experience and leaves the tank and
gages pretty clean. Love that price!

Didn't mean to write a book....happy travels..
Gwen Foley

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Chuck & Mary Boros
04 Windsor 02 Ford Ranger
Shelby Dog, Miss Kitty, Mr Lucky Cat

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Re: [Diesel-RVs] Re: Yahoo acting up/duplicate emails.

it had nothing to do with posting questions on more than one site at a time.
I had not recently done that -- on occasion in the past I have. This was
not one of those
occasions.
all emails were coming in over and over and over...the same emails,
duplicated.
as fast as I could delete, they were repeating...coming in again. Its
happened before and been labeled a "yahoo problem" (even tho' not all the
duplicated emails were through yahoo groups - and my ISP and email are not
"yahoo").

KarenB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Young" <hyoungii@austin.rr.com>
To: <Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Diesel-RVs] Re: Yahoo acting up/duplicate emails.

>I think it is simply because folks post on more than one site with their
> questions trying to get as complete an audience as they can. I have done
> that on occasion.

> Thanks,
> Harry
>
> 04 Windsor
> From: Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of rss00
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:27 AM
> To: Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Diesel-RVs] Re: Yahoo acting up/duplicate emails.
> I see many psotings on this site that are also posted on "specific
> coach" sites that I also monitor.
>
> SteveS

> --- In Diesel-RVs@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Diesel-RVs%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Karen Barrett" <charli@...> wrote:
>> am putting my group emails on digest - getting hundreds of
>> duplicates of emails from all groups...
>> just wondered if anyone else having this problem.
>>
>> KarenB
>>
>

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Re: [Diesel-RVs] Re: RID-X

Gwen

That's a good rundown on black tank additives, but I for one do not agree
with your comments on Rid X. You are right, though, that it was not primarily
designed for RV holding tanks.

Still, many, many of us Monaco owners use Rid X and have no odor or
clogging. And, when you dump the tank, there is still a colony of bacteria left.

I would also note that I am starting to get handouts at some campgrounds
that if you have any formaldehyde based chemicals in your tank, that you should
not dump. (This is always "blamed" on the local sewage treatment facility's
rules.)

Fred White 02 Windsor, 05 Pilot
Polk City, FL & Trenton, ME




In a message dated 1/13/2008 5:33:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rvdreamin46@yahoo.com writes:

> What are the pros/cons of using rid-X in Black tank?
> Seems to me it would be better as used in homes septic tanks.
> Thanks for the help
>
> Al Schmadeke
>
Rid X says on their website that they haven't tested it for RV
use and therefore make no representations that it will or won't work.
Bacteria are the way to go if you are going to use anything...but Rid
X isn't designed for holding tanks.

One difference is that in some climates our holding tank water gets
much hotter or much colder than water in a septic system which is
underground far enough to be a nice even temp most of the time. They
say some of the RV bacteria products use critters that can survive and
work in high temps in particular.

Rid-X has to be better, anyway, than formaldehyde or the so-called
naturals that release formaldehyde even though they say formaldehyde
free. Like.. bronopol (Thetfd natural) or the stuff in TST green --
both produce formaldehyde. I'm a science freak who gets her jollies I
looking up what is in the stuff on the shelves since they all look
alike in the store.

Odorlos is a nitrate which is a fertilizer and I do not understand how
it works, but it did seem to do a pretty good job on odors, but it
didn't seem to do a good job on helping to clean out our tank or keep
our gages clean. Plus I figured waste should already have plenty of
nitrate in it and we don;t need more to find its way into streams or
ground water if the parks dump station has any leaks.....

Borax can be useful, but if you have pets or grandkids around, keep it
locked up and hard to find. I believe a quarter ounce or less can
kill a pet or a small child and that isn't much!

We have used another Wal-Mart product called RVTec100 for years
whenever we can get it. Costs about $4.50 a bottle and goes a long
way. Good odor eaters from our experience and leaves the tank and
gages pretty clean. Love that price!

Didn't mean to write a book....happy travels..
Gwen Foley

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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