I agree but regular cellphones can track a user, to a lesser degree, too. I think the gov't is shakin' down Apple to get something and any junior programmer has known about the software on the iphone. just my opinion.
--- On Fri, 4/22/11, bgiovan@cavtel.net <bgiovan@cavtel.net> wrote:
> From: bgiovan@cavtel.net <bgiovan@cavtel.net>
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "briankk" <briankk@att.net>
> Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 1:46 PM
> Steve Jobs has taken over the
> position from Bill Gates as 666. 4th
> Amendment issues aside, some of the nefarious tracking
> stuff Apple does
> now is just plain not cool without asking permission
> first. /rant
>
> Ben near Detroit
>
> On 4/22/2011 1:05 PM, briankk wrote:
> >
> > True, but there will always be less malware on the
> Apple platform, for
> > the reason cited. Now, if you have one of the
> Macs with the Intel
> > chip, you can run the Windows partition 'till it gets
> clogged up, then
> > switch to the OSX.xxx partition to carry on.
> Eventually, you may
> > wonder why you bothered to have the Windows side at
> all.
> >
> > This is why I recommended the Mac for users who aren't
> much interested
> > in the inner bits of the computer, you can just use
> the Mac for a long
> > time without having to know anything much about
> computers.
> >
> > There are a lot my technical reasons for this argument
> than I'll go
> > into here, but the Mac is quality, the PC is a
> question mark at best..
> >
> > bk
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 4/22/11, john public /<brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com>/*wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: john public <brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes]
> Malwarebytes.org
> > To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, April 22, 2011,
> 9:37 AM
> >
> > I hate to have to write this
> but viruses,spyware and bugs
> > are becoming more prevalent
> with the OS(s) Apple uses; as their
> > systems proliferate, they will
> become more so. The same is true of
> > Linux based systems; they are
> much easier to write code for than
> > Win based machines (IMO).
> > Before mp3 players were
> available, I had a small pc running in my
> > 300D...to keep it on topic
> > F-prot is a free scanner for
> Linux users and for Win users there
> > is a trial period durig which
> it run with nag screens. It is
> > possible to install linux in a
> separate partition, and scan the
> > Win section of your HD for
> viruses. It is possible to do this over
> > a home network, if you have
> multiple pcs.
> > If you have Win XP, MS has a
> free updating service and scanner
> > that runs pretty well and has
> eliminated some system viruses from
> > my machine. Service pack 3 has
> to be installed, tho.
> >
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 4/22/11, briankk
> /<briankk@att.net>/*
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: briankk
> <briankk@att.net>
> > Subject: Re:
> [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
> > To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday,
> April 22, 2011, 12:09 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > That's getting
> to be the norm, the ad say it'll fix you
> > computer and
> whatnot, just download the free diagnostic; you
> > run the
> diagnostic and it reports that you hard drive has been
> > invaded by
> headhunters and has a hemorrhagic fever virus, and
> > if you don't act
> THIS INSTANT, it may pull a Derrenger and
> > take a shot at
> you...So you click on the fix me now button,
> > and up pops the
> news that they will gladly do this as soon as
> > you send 'em $20
> bucks, and for only a bit more you can
> > subscribe to
> their service and get reamed at regular
> > intervals.
> FWIW, searching for any driver in Google, for
> > instance, will
> get you a taste of the same scam.
> >
> > If you just want
> to be a user, get a Mac. The problem with
> > the PC/Windows
> platform is that it is an infamous mass of
> > festering
> vulnerabilities, and any kid who can figure out
> > assembly
> language code can write malware for the platform.
> >
> > With a Mac, the
> coding is a bit obtuse, anybody who can figure
> > out how to write
> a bug for a Mac can get a high-paying job as
> > a software
> engineer, doesn't have so much time on their hands,
> > which is why Mac
> bugs/viruses are rare..
> >
> > bk (Some old Mac
> guy..)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On *Thu,
> 4/21/11, Nate /<vwnate1@yahoo.com>/*wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
> >
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes]
> Malwarebytes.org
> >
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> >
> Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 7:24 PM
> >
> >
> >
> Ben ;
> >
> >
> You didn't mention this is only available
> paid ~ .
> >
> >
> Clicking on the " free " version , takes
> me to a paid
> >
> download site...
> >
> >
> -Nate
> >
> STILL struggling with the laptop.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> diesel_mercedes-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
To wit:
http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/22/technology/apple_supply_chain/index.htm?hpt=T2
Ben near Detroit
On 4/22/2011 1:46 PM, bgiovan@cavtel.net wrote:
> Steve Jobs has taken over the position from Bill Gates as 666. 4th
> Amendment issues aside, some of the nefarious tracking stuff Apple
> does now is just plain not cool without asking permission first. /rant
>
> Ben near Detroit
>
> On 4/22/2011 1:05 PM, briankk wrote:
>>
>> True, but there will always be less malware on the Apple platform,
>> for the reason cited. Now, if you have one of the Macs with the
>> Intel chip, you can run the Windows partition 'till it gets clogged
>> up, then switch to the OSX.xxx partition to carry on. Eventually,
>> you may wonder why you bothered to have the Windows side at all.
>>
>> This is why I recommended the Mac for users who aren't much
>> interested in the inner bits of the computer, you can just use the
>> Mac for a long time without having to know anything much about
>> computers.
>>
>> There are a lot my technical reasons for this argument than I'll go
>> into here, but the Mac is quality, the PC is a question mark at best..
>>
>> bk
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 4/22/11, john public /<brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com>/*wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: john public <brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
>> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 9:37 AM
>>
>> I hate to have to write this but viruses,spyware and bugs
>> are becoming more prevalent with the OS(s) Apple uses; as their
>> systems proliferate, they will become more so. The same is true of
>> Linux based systems; they are much easier to write code for than
>> Win based machines (IMO).
>> Before mp3 players were available, I had a small pc running in my
>> 300D...to keep it on topic
>> F-prot is a free scanner for Linux users and for Win users there
>> is a trial period durig which it run with nag screens. It is
>> possible to install linux in a separate partition, and scan the
>> Win section of your HD for viruses. It is possible to do this over
>> a home network, if you have multiple pcs.
>> If you have Win XP, MS has a free updating service and scanner
>> that runs pretty well and has eliminated some system viruses from
>> my machine. Service pack 3 has to be installed, tho.
>>
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 4/22/11, briankk /<briankk@att.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: briankk <briankk@att.net>
>> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
>> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 12:09 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> That's getting to be the norm, the ad say it'll fix you
>> computer and whatnot, just download the free diagnostic; you
>> run the diagnostic and it reports that you hard drive has been
>> invaded by headhunters and has a hemorrhagic fever virus, and
>> if you don't act THIS INSTANT, it may pull a Derrenger and
>> take a shot at you...So you click on the fix me now button,
>> and up pops the news that they will gladly do this as soon as
>> you send 'em $20 bucks, and for only a bit more you can
>> subscribe to their service and get reamed at regular
>> intervals. FWIW, searching for any driver in Google, for
>> instance, will get you a taste of the same scam.
>>
>> If you just want to be a user, get a Mac. The problem with
>> the PC/Windows platform is that it is an infamous mass of
>> festering vulnerabilities, and any kid who can figure out
>> assembly language code can write malware for the platform.
>>
>> With a Mac, the coding is a bit obtuse, anybody who can figure
>> out how to write a bug for a Mac can get a high-paying job as
>> a software engineer, doesn't have so much time on their hands,
>> which is why Mac bugs/viruses are rare..
>>
>> bk (Some old Mac guy..)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 4/21/11, Nate /<vwnate1@yahoo.com>/*wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
>> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 7:24 PM
>>
>>
>> Ben ;
>>
>> You didn't mention this is only available paid ~ .
>>
>> Clicking on the " free " version , takes me to a paid
>> download site...
>>
>> -Nate
>> STILL struggling with the laptop.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
Steve Jobs has taken over the position from Bill Gates as 666. 4th
Amendment issues aside, some of the nefarious tracking stuff Apple does
now is just plain not cool without asking permission first. /rant
Ben near Detroit
On 4/22/2011 1:05 PM, briankk wrote:
>
> True, but there will always be less malware on the Apple platform, for
> the reason cited. Now, if you have one of the Macs with the Intel
> chip, you can run the Windows partition 'till it gets clogged up, then
> switch to the OSX.xxx partition to carry on. Eventually, you may
> wonder why you bothered to have the Windows side at all.
>
> This is why I recommended the Mac for users who aren't much interested
> in the inner bits of the computer, you can just use the Mac for a long
> time without having to know anything much about computers.
>
> There are a lot my technical reasons for this argument than I'll go
> into here, but the Mac is quality, the PC is a question mark at best..
>
> bk
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/22/11, john public /<brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com>/*wrote:
>
>
> From: john public <brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 9:37 AM
>
> I hate to have to write this but viruses,spyware and bugs
> are becoming more prevalent with the OS(s) Apple uses; as their
> systems proliferate, they will become more so. The same is true of
> Linux based systems; they are much easier to write code for than
> Win based machines (IMO).
> Before mp3 players were available, I had a small pc running in my
> 300D...to keep it on topic
> F-prot is a free scanner for Linux users and for Win users there
> is a trial period durig which it run with nag screens. It is
> possible to install linux in a separate partition, and scan the
> Win section of your HD for viruses. It is possible to do this over
> a home network, if you have multiple pcs.
> If you have Win XP, MS has a free updating service and scanner
> that runs pretty well and has eliminated some system viruses from
> my machine. Service pack 3 has to be installed, tho.
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/22/11, briankk /<briankk@att.net>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: briankk <briankk@att.net>
> Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 12:09 PM
>
>
>
> That's getting to be the norm, the ad say it'll fix you
> computer and whatnot, just download the free diagnostic; you
> run the diagnostic and it reports that you hard drive has been
> invaded by headhunters and has a hemorrhagic fever virus, and
> if you don't act THIS INSTANT, it may pull a Derrenger and
> take a shot at you...So you click on the fix me now button,
> and up pops the news that they will gladly do this as soon as
> you send 'em $20 bucks, and for only a bit more you can
> subscribe to their service and get reamed at regular
> intervals. FWIW, searching for any driver in Google, for
> instance, will get you a taste of the same scam.
>
> If you just want to be a user, get a Mac. The problem with
> the PC/Windows platform is that it is an infamous mass of
> festering vulnerabilities, and any kid who can figure out
> assembly language code can write malware for the platform.
>
> With a Mac, the coding is a bit obtuse, anybody who can figure
> out how to write a bug for a Mac can get a high-paying job as
> a software engineer, doesn't have so much time on their hands,
> which is why Mac bugs/viruses are rare..
>
> bk (Some old Mac guy..)
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/21/11, Nate /<vwnate1@yahoo.com>/*wrote:
>
>
> From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
> To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 7:24 PM
>
>
> Ben ;
>
> You didn't mention this is only available paid ~ .
>
> Clicking on the " free " version , takes me to a paid
> download site...
>
> -Nate
> STILL struggling with the laptop.....
>
>
>
>
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
True, but there will always be less malware on the Apple platform, for the reason cited. Now, if you have one of the Macs with the Intel chip, you can run the Windows partition 'till it gets clogged up, then switch to the OSX.xxx partition to carry on. Eventually, you may wonder why you bothered to have the Windows side at all. This is why I recommended the Mac for users who aren't much interested in the inner bits of the computer, you can just use the Mac for a long time without having to know anything much about computers. There are a lot my technical reasons for this argument than I'll go into here, but the Mac is quality, the PC is a question mark at best.. bk --- On Fri, 4/22/11, john public <brad_macaboy1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
|
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
I hate to have to write this but viruses,spyware and bugs are becoming more prevalent with the OS(s) Apple uses; as their systems proliferate, they will become more so. The same is true of Linux based systems; they are much easier to write code for than Win based machines (IMO). Before mp3 players were available, I had a small pc running in my 300D...to keep it on topic F-prot is a free scanner for Linux users and for Win users there is a trial period durig which it run with nag screens. It is possible to install linux in a separate partition, and scan the Win section of your HD for viruses. It is possible to do this over a home network, if you have multiple pcs. If you have Win XP, MS has a free updating service and scanner that runs pretty well and has eliminated some system viruses from my machine. Service pack 3 has to be installed, tho. --- On Fri, 4/22/11, briankk <briankk@att.net> wrote:
|
Re: [diesel_mercedes] Malwarebytes.org
That's getting to be the norm, the ad say it'll fix you computer and whatnot, just download the free diagnostic; you run the diagnostic and it reports that you hard drive has been invaded by headhunters and has a hemorrhagic fever virus, and if you don't act THIS INSTANT, it may pull a Derrenger and take a shot at you...So you click on the fix me now button, and up pops the news that they will gladly do this as soon as you send 'em $20 bucks, and for only a bit more you can subscribe to their service and get reamed at regular intervals. FWIW, searching for any driver in Google, for instance, will get you a taste of the same scam. If you just want to be a user, get a Mac. The problem with the PC/Windows platform is that it is an infamous mass of festering vulnerabilities, and any kid who can figure out assembly language code can write malware for the platform. With a Mac, the coding is a bit obtuse, anybody who can figure out how to write a bug for a Mac can get a high-paying job as a software engineer, doesn't have so much time on their hands, which is why Mac bugs/viruses are rare.. bk (Some old Mac guy..) --- On Thu, 4/21/11, Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com> wrote:
|
[diesel_mercedes] Re: Malwarebytes.org
Yeah ;
No doubt *but* the kid the laptop belongs to , he's wobbling out of orbit once again (SWMBO caught him smoking pot in her back yard yesterday) so I'm not willing to $pend my $ on a kid who never admits his mistakes . 20 minutes after she reamed him out , I caught him shooting dice with the neighborhood toughs in our back yard , a fist full of dollar bills.....
As it turns out , I struggled with it for a while and _finally_ got the free version to download and set up , ran a full scan and it found & removed two bugs , by this time it was 11:00 PM so I left it for another day , I stll need to see if I can load in AGV Free 2011 and run that , then get Windiows Defender going , run CCleaner a few more times , run MRT again , so on and so forth .
The good thing is : it now runs much faster ! .
So , it aoppears that Malbytes.org did some real good .
Stay tuned , this weekend is slated to go look for a 300TD R.R. door .
I _really_ appreciate all the help I get here ! .
-Nate
Ben wrote:
>
> It may be that you get the free one to see what's wrong but have to pay the
> $24.95 to fix it. I can tell you, for $25, this one saved my ass more than
> once.
>
>
>
> Ben near Detroit
>
>
>
> _____
>
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