Re: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Source for 616 piston rings?

 

These thoughts went through my head when I seized my engine (hole poked in pan). I just felt that if the pistons seized, then maybe the crank seized too, or the valves had issues, or you name it. So, I just chickened out and went for a used engine transplant. And considered a rebuilt new engine too. It's all matter of time and money, isn't it?  What would you advise an owner if he pulled into your shop with your sob story?

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Nate <vwnate1@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Re: Source for 616 piston rings?

 

WELCOME HOME BEN ! .

I can't imagine using any cut price rings in a Diesel engine .

IIRC , the cylinder liners are dry , this means you need a machine shop to press them out and the new ones in then it'll need a clean up bore to make it proper .

I've overhauled a _lot_ of old engines by picking & choosing amongst the cores then fitting new bearings , seals and piston rings . this is *very* DIY do0-able .

If you compression test them before taking the heads off , you'll prolly find a good used head that only needs the vasatly superior up graded valve guide seals to make it right as rain .

-Nate
Ben Pender wrote:
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> Hey Guys,
>
> Looking for a set of reasonably-priced piston rings for my new-to-me '82 240D.  Would anyone know of a source?
>
> Also, what's the group's thoughts on replacing cylinder liners?
>
> The previous owner wasn't vigilant with regard to oil leaks and allowed the engine to seize.  I pulled 2 good core engines from my local pick-n-pull.  I was going to do main & rod bearings and piston rings in the better of the two (as determined by compression tests) and drop it in and, depending on how that runs, save some more $$$ and build a nice engine for it.
>
> My 240 is a really nice car in almost mint condition, except for the engine.  It's a 4 speed car. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Ben Pender
> Decherd, TN
>



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[diesel_mercedes] Fuel Economy Check '82 240D Auto

 


Apparently one of our Foster boys rolled both the AC up full freezing cold ,_and_ the heater full tilt boogie....

266 miles , 22.7 MPG , all City driving .

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No AC used , white bottle Cetane Boost used @ 3 oz. per fillup .

26.8 MPG , about the same as it has been .

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[diesel_mercedes] Re: Source for 616 piston rings?

 


WELCOME HOME BEN ! .

I can't imagine using any cut price rings in a Diesel engine .

IIRC , the cylinder liners are dry , this means you need a machine shop to press them out and the new ones in then it'll need a clean up bore to make it proper .

I've overhauled a _lot_ of old engines by picking & choosing amongst the cores then fitting new bearings , seals and piston rings . this is *very* DIY do0-able .

If you compression test them before taking the heads off , you'll prolly find a good used head that only needs the vasatly superior up graded valve guide seals to make it right as rain .

-Nate
Ben Pender wrote:
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> Looking for a set of reasonably-priced piston rings for my new-to-me '82 240D.  Would anyone know of a source?
>
> Also, what's the group's thoughts on replacing cylinder liners?
>
> The previous owner wasn't vigilant with regard to oil leaks and allowed the engine to seize.  I pulled 2 good core engines from my local pick-n-pull.  I was going to do main & rod bearings and piston rings in the better of the two (as determined by compression tests) and drop it in and, depending on how that runs, save some more $$$ and build a nice engine for it.
>
> My 240 is a really nice car in almost mint condition, except for the engine.  It's a 4 speed car. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Ben Pender
> Decherd, TN
>

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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Source for 616 piston rings?

 

Mercedes Source has, or has access to, a lot of stuff in their new (or slightly used) bins. As to "reasonable price" beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Peachtree would also be worth a look.

 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Ben Pender <ben_pender@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Ben Pender <ben.pender@nissan-usa.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:46 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Source for 616 piston rings?

 
Hey Guys,

Looking for a set of reasonably-priced piston rings for my new-to-me '82 240D.  Would anyone know of a source?

Also, what's the group's thoughts on replacing cylinder liners?

The previous owner wasn't vigilant with regard to oil leaks and allowed the engine to seize.  I pulled 2 good core engines from my local pick-n-pull.  I was going to do main & rod bearings and piston rings in the better of the two (as determined by compression tests) and drop it in and, depending on how that runs, save some more $$$ and build a nice engine for it.

My 240 is a really nice car in almost mint condition, except for the engine.  It's a 4 speed car. 

Thanks!

Regards,
Ben Pender

Decherd, TN



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Re: [diesel_mercedes] Source for 616 piston rings?

 

Life gets complicated sometimes.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Ben Pender <ben_pender@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Source for 616 piston rings?

 
Brian,

Thanks, I've been in lurk-mode for a long time.  The overhead at my shop got to the point that I simply couldn't justify it and so I closed it.  I'm now actually an engineer at the Nissan engine plant near my house in Decherd, TN.

I'm a Quality engineer working in the Dyno lab.  Of interest to some on this list, Nissan will be building the new M274 engine for the 2015 C-class that will be built in Alabama.  I happen to be the Dyno test engineer in charge of that project!  Working for "the Man" instead of running my own business means that I actually have "free" time in the evenings and weekends.  I find that I'm now able to spend nearly as much time turning wrenches in my home shop as I did when I had my shop because nobody comes to BS with me there!  Because of that, I get to have a job that really suits my interests and skills, as well as a very enjoyable & lucrative hobby.  AND I get to see/be with my kids every day.  And have a comfortable living, and health insurance, and 401k, and, and...well, you get the picture.

In my shop, I get to work at my own pace, and since its not my living any more, it truly is relaxing.  I have to spend the month of March at the Mercedes plant in Stuttgart for M274-specific training, but when I get back, I plan to get the 240D back on the road.  It is such a nice car that I want to have it streetable by the first Saturday in June so I can enter it in my EuroBrit car show. 

Regards,
Ben Pender




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From: BStromsoe <bstromsoe@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [diesel_mercedes] Source for 616 piston rings?
To: "diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com" <diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Ben Pender" <ben.pender@nissan-usa.com>
Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 12:10 AM

 
Ben lives again. Good to her from you.
 
brian from laverne, ca
Mary (195K)  Martha (280K)
1983 w123 300d's

From: Ben Pender <ben_pender@yahoo.com>
To: diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Ben Pender <ben.pender@nissan-usa.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:46 PM
Subject: [diesel_mercedes] Source for 616 piston rings?

 
Hey Guys,

Looking for a set of reasonably-priced piston rings for my new-to-me '82 240D.  Would anyone know of a source?

Also, what's the group's thoughts on replacing cylinder liners?

The previous owner wasn't vigilant with regard to oil leaks and allowed the engine to seize.  I pulled 2 good core engines from my local pick-n-pull.  I was going to do main & rod bearings and piston rings in the better of the two (as determined by compression tests) and drop it in and, depending on how that runs, save some more $$$ and build a nice engine for it.

My 240 is a really nice car in almost mint condition, except for the engine.  It's a 4 speed car. 

Thanks!

Regards,
Ben Pender

Decherd, TN





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