Howdy y'all, I know this topic has been covered before but yahoo's group search feature is kind of buggy so I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to give me a recap of which higher-amperage alternators can be bolted into the W123s with a minimum of rigging. Thanks,
Jim
Messages In This Digest (12 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: What to do before Road Trip? From: Mary Atleson
- 1b.
- Re: What to do before Road Trip? From: Aleph93
- 1c.
- Re: What to do before Road Trip? From: max_stemple
- 1d.
- Re: What to do before Road Trip? From: Nate
- 2a.
- Re: Digest Number 4748 From: Lawrence Rhodes
- 2b.
- Re : Thermostat Service From: Nate
- 3a.
- Re: 124 300D break bleeding From: Lost but making good time.
- 4.
- GAH From: Nate
- 5.
- TOPIC DRIFT : ATF From: Nate
- 6a.
- Re: Split boot that might work. From: Nate
- 7a.
- Re: Gasket for thermostat From: Nate
- 8.
- Mary's Road Trip From: Nate
Messages
- 1a.
Re: What to do before Road Trip?
Posted by: "Mary Atleson" met1219@yahoo.com met1219
Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:20 am (PDT)
I'll wave if I see you Max. What color is the 240D? Our 300D is silver. Thanks for the tip about the rest stop. We keep the dog on leash any time we are close to the road. He goes off leash in the woods Thanks for reminding me about Stonehenge...my brother went there years ago. We will have to stop there for at least a photo op and perhaps a picnic. I will post pics when we get back. Enjoy your trip!
Mary
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups. , "max_stemple" <max_stemple@com ...> wrote:
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> Me too! I am going in the reverse direction soon in my 240 4-spd. Hey you guys come fix up my car for me so it wont break down. Hey Mary, coming from the south, past Bend a ways there is a rest stop on the left side with a 300 ft. drop off to a river. It's really cool because you can walk right up to it. Watch the doggy close tho. Do you know about Stonehenge? It's right across from Biggs Junction. Hwy 97.Maryhill Museum left and Stonehenge to the right. You should drive right tru there as it's on the road to Chelan on Hwy. 97 which is a really senic drive. Stonehenge is a great place for a picnic lunch with really good views up there. Hey maybe we will pass on the road. Max
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> --- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups. , "Mary Atleson" <met1219@> wrote:com
> >
> > We are considering eventually relocating to Bend, so we can check that out (I know the area, Hubby does not) on the way up. Then on to a friend's house in Chelan, followed by Portland to visit my daughter & Son-in-law, then back to the Bay area. Should be a fun trip. Perhaps we should take pics of the Mercedes at each stopping point? I just love this car:)
> >
> > Mary
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> >
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- 1b.
Re: What to do before Road Trip?
Posted by: "Aleph93" aleph93@ca.rr.com aleph93
Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:20 am (PDT)
Hi Mary,
When was the last time the brakes were bled?
A few things nice to have for a road trip are fuel filters, and some
extra hose for the injector return lines (skinny hose on the injectors).
You could also just have your diesel guy just change out these hoses, if
you don't know how old they are.
A few basic hand tools should be sufficient, or if you have these parts
in the trunk, someone can just put them in, rather then have to order
them, and wait for them to arrive.
Sounds like a fun trip. Enjoy.
Rob
'85 300D
Garden grove, CA
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On 3/19/11 1:24 AM, diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups. wrote:com
> . What to do before Road Trip?
> Posted by: "Mary Atleson"met1219@yahoo.com met1219
> Date: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:12 am ((PDT))
>
> The Husband and I are taking the 1983 Mercedes 300D on a road trip from San Francisco area, through Bend, Oregon to Chelan, WA then back down thru Portland, Oregon. This is approx 1600 miles round trip. The 300D is in great shape, fairly low miles but not sure since odometer works ONLY intermittantly, newer rebuilt engine and rebuilt AT plus many rubber hose replacements about 1.5 years ago. New tires, runs great, regular oil changes, etc. Hubby isn't mechanically inclined and has no tools, so we need to bring it to our diesel head guy who knows old Mercedes. What do I need to have done prior to the trip aside from an oil/fuel filter perhaps air filter change& valve adjustment? This should be fun, as I love driving this car and get to visit friends and my daughter on the trip. Just wanna make sure the 300D is in tip top shape rior to leaving. Please advise. Thanks in advance!
>
> Mary
>
- 1c.
Re: What to do before Road Trip?
Posted by: "max_stemple" max_stemple@yahoo.com max_stemple
Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:27 pm (PDT)
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups. , "Mary Atleson" <met1219@...com > wrote:
>
> I'll wave if I see you Max. What color is the 240D? Our 300D is silver. Thanks for the tip about the rest stop. We keep the dog on leash any time we are close to the road. He goes off leash in the woods Thanks for reminding me about Stonehenge...my brother went there years ago. We will have to stop there for at least a photo op and perhaps a picnic. I will post pics when we get back. Enjoy your trip!
>
> Mary
>
Both my Mercedes are basic Mercedes yellow. I always get diesel in Biggs Junction, they have the best price for around there, and then I go to the Subway shop and get a sub, then head up to
Stonehenge for lunch. It's always lunch time when I drive tru there because it's always half way to where I'm going. At least for the day. P.S. I posted a couple of pictures from my last time tru there in my photo album, Mercedes trailer. Max
- 1d.
Re: What to do before Road Trip?
Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:54 pm (PDT)
You've pretty much got it covered .
I'd suggest dumping a bottle of Power Service " DIESEL 911 " into the tank ASAP , be sure to take along 10' of spare 3.5 (?) MM fuel return hose and 10' of the special Diesel resistant 7MM fuel hose and maybe a spare " Cigar Hose " too along with both primary and secondary fuel filters and fan , AC & alternator V-Belts with the _EXACT_ same #'s on them that your current V - Belts have , all this will fit into a small cardboard box in the rear footwell or trunk side pocket...
Take the time to check the pressure in the spare tire ! .
New wiper blades and a bottle of Rain-X , that goes without saying , right ? .
Have a FUN TRIP ! .
SWMBO & I both love touring in our various old Mercedes Diesels , they're comfy , reliable and _safe_ too .
Did I mention how classy they are ? .
-Nate
Mary wrote:
>
> The Husband and I are taking the 1983 Mercedes 300D on a road trip from San Francisco area, through Bend, Oregon to Chelan, WA then back down thru Portland, Oregon. This is approx 1600 miles round trip. The 300D is in great shape, fairly low miles but not sure since odometer works ONLY intermittantly, newer rebuilt engine and rebuilt AT plus many rubber hose replacements about 1.5 years ago. New tires, runs great, regular oil changes, etc. Hubby isn't mechanically inclined and has no tools, so we need to bring it to our diesel head guy who knows old Mercedes. What do I need to have done prior to the trip aside from an oil/fuel filter perhaps air filter change & valve adjustment? This should be fun, as I love driving this car and get to visit friends and my daughter on the trip. Just wanna make sure the 300D is in tip top shape rior to leaving. Please advise. Thanks in advance!
>
> Mary
>
- 2a.
Re: Digest Number 4748
Posted by: "Lawrence Rhodes" primobassoon@sbcglobal.net looksee007
Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:17 am (PDT)
Question is do I have to take the whole thing apart and use the paper gasket or
is there a way of just taking out the thermostat and put in the rubber parts and
off I go? Lawrence Rhodes........
- 2b.
Re : Thermostat Service
Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:05 pm (PDT)
Yes ~ using a 6 point 1/4" drive socket , carefully remove the three 10MM ATF bolts then tap the housing edgewise with a big screwdriver's handle , it'll pop loose after a few whacks . no need to undo the top hose .
Once it's loose , grasp & raise the old 'stat whilst wiggling it , when it pops out , take a moment to wipe the crusty bits out of the entire cavity & sealing surfaces of both upper & lower housing , carefully insert the new 'stat and place the upper housing back into place , wire brush , dry off then *lightly* grease the three 6MM bolts , re - install and tighten evenly , easy does it ! they only need to be a tiny bit more than snug .
-Nate
Lawrence wrote:
>
> Question is do I have to take the whole thing apart and use the paper gasket or
> is there a way of just taking out the thermostat and put in the rubber parts and
> off I go? Lawrence Rhodes........
>
- 3a.
Re: 124 300D break bleeding
Posted by: "Lost but making good time." aldridgetony97@yahoo.com aldridgetony97
Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:01 am (PDT)
There is a little button on top of the brake fluid chamber, you need to push it down to allow the fluid for the rear brakes to enter that part of the system. Just fill (overfill) the brake fluid chamber, then push the button down, repeat until the rear brake chamber is up to level.
Then bleed as normal, I used a vacuum pump (mity vac) to bleed mine & pulled out some foul looking junk.
--- In diesel_mercedes@yahoogroups. , "m124300d" <ekautz@...> wrote:com
>
> I am having trouble bleeding the breaks on my 1987 300D.
> I replaced the rear calipers on the car tried to bleed the breaks
> and get nothing (no break fluid to come to the tear breaks).This
> car has ABS Thanks for any help Gene
>
- 4.
GAH
Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:28 pm (PDT)
Last weekend , Tom and I stopped by one of my favorite (if tiny & filthy) Pick-A-Part yards and discovered an early W-123 280CE (Gasser M-110 engine) European Coupe that had been in a minor accident and spent some time (? years ?) as a hobby car awaiting repairs , the front bumper was bent but the rear one was not only intact but in VGC , better than the one on my W-123 Coupe.....
As I'd not taken tools into the yard I didn't grab it and this has been eating away at me all week .
I suppose I'll meander over there to - morrow morning in the rain and see if they've not yet bailed the car up as scrap as the engine was cherry picked out so it's pretty much worthless....
Sigh .
I keep doing this sort of silly thing over and over.....
-Nate
- 5.
TOPIC DRIFT : ATF
Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:32 pm (PDT)
That's quite interesting as many European cars and nearly every Japanese car with a three speed Slucsbox , is using a Borg Warner typ 35 tranny and every single one , including the A-35 used in BMC (Austin , MG etc.) cars , all require Dexron ....
VW /Audi used these too from 1968 onwards , always specifying Dexron
-Nate
Stan Wrote :
Type F was developed for FORD auto transmissions and contains MORE
friction enhancers than Dexron. Borg Warner T-35 trannys in many
European cars (Jag etc.) require Type F.
--
Stan George Portland <<
- 6a.
Re: Split boot that might work.
Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:42 pm (PDT)
Well ;
I'm sure you know how much I hate & distrust split boots but if you must....
I don't have a dismounted axle to measure .
In general , I like / use / highly recommend Dorman Products .
THANK YOU for the Dorman Catalog link ! I was trying to find it yesterday but I got ' sorry ! site under construction ! ' .
I just bookmarked the one you sent .
-Nate
Lawrence wrote:
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> http://www.dormanproducts.com/ p-11984-614- 632.aspx
> I wasn't able to measure the inner lip but the shaft size is ok. I measured it
> as one inch. My inside inner lip is currently covered. Any one got a
> measurement for it(Nate). Hope it is around 3 inches. Lawrence Rhodes........
>
- 7a.
Re: Gasket for thermostat
Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:46 pm (PDT)
It's just an O-Ring .
If , when you have the housing apart , the mating surfaces are pitted , you can easily dress them up by using a wetted sheet of 1,000 grit or finer wet/dry abrasive paper lain on a bit of glass & moving the housing in a figure - 8 motion until you see shiny all the way across the surface , no need to make it a mirror finish .
Remember to lightly grease the 6MM bolts threads before re - assembly.
-Nate
Lawrence wrote:
>
> I ordered the Autohaus AZ thermostat and glow plugs with a gasket for the
> thermostat. The gasket looks nothing like the thermostat housing. Are the two
> rubber parts gaskets all I need or do I need the paper gasket? Lawrence
> Rhodes.....
>
- 8.
Mary's Road Trip
Posted by: "Nate" vwnate1@yahoo.com vwnate1
Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:59 pm (PDT)
You are *so* lucky to be able to do this ! .
_Please_ , take lotsa car pix any and everywhere......
Will you be joining the CWC ? or buying a nice one , ready to go ? . there's no shortage of cheap W-123 wagons about and of course , I like the up - fixin' part anyways....
-Nate
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On 3/19/2011 10:32 PM, Nate wrote:
> That's quite interesting as many European cars and nearly every
> Japanese car with a three speed Slucsbox , is using a Borg Warner typ
> 35 tranny and every single one , including the A-35 used in BMC
> (Austin , MG etc.) cars , all require Dexron ....
http://diesel-rvs.blogspot.com/2011/03/dieselmercedes-topic-drift-atf.html
My owner's manual specifies Type F as does this web site.
--
Stan George Portland <<
